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Old 07-31-2020, 11:23 AM   #1
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Default v6.13+dev0731 - July 31 2020

v6.13+dev0731 - July 31 2020
  • + Theme: add theme color for selected track background
  • # Automation items: fix paste position
  • # Automation items: prevent unnecessary automation item creation when moving media items or area selection to new tracks [p=2325707]
  • # Media explorer: fix search keyboard focus with certain settings [p=2326111]
  • # Theme: different fallback display for edit cursor at last touched track if the theme does not provide cursor_seltrack.png
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Old 07-31-2020, 11:25 AM   #2
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Old 07-31-2020, 12:06 PM   #3
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Making elements like these themable is much appreciated. 👌
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Regarding + Theme: add theme color for selected track background

I use to have my track image as just a highlight around the edge of the track panel like below. Would it be possible to have something like that as an tickbox option in theme editor?

I've never really found a colour setting that really let's me know with 100% certainty what I have actually selected. Especially with lots of differently coloured tracks and with a few selected at once.

I'd even like to see a highlight option around the item or at least the top and bottom edge. Like we did before with the top edge line highlight option in preferences.

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Old 07-31-2020, 12:16 PM   #5
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Now we just need to be able to customize muted tracks color or at least make the option to not dim them too much.
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+ Theme: add theme color for selected track background
WOOOW!!! Thank you very much , finally
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I think instead of a color, there should be a blending mode. Or maybe, in addition to the color, there should be blending mode. Because as it is now having a single color (well, two, for odd and even tracks) disrupts the arrange view vertical division option.
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thank you!!! now we only need the muted track background color setting please.
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I just crashed Reaper trying to do an area selection of the tempo lane.
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Old 07-31-2020, 12:49 PM   #10
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I think instead of a color, there should be a blending mode. Or maybe, in addition to the color, there should be blending mode.
+1, with Z-depth setting if possible, so the track highlight could be applied either to background, or both background and items on the track as well.

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now we only need the muted track background color setting please.
Do you mean the muted track overlay, which currently makes the track and items darker? If so, +1.
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Old 07-31-2020, 01:01 PM   #11
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Default Area Selection Bug

I 've posted at v6.13+dev0729 but i'll post here as well in case none of the devs will see it.

As i hold right click+drag and then press the modifier to ignore snap, instead of ingoring snap for the edge i drag to extend, it moves the opposite edge or both of them to another position.

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Old 07-31-2020, 01:10 PM   #12
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Thanks for this options Devs of tracks tinting ! niiice


I agree with the the blend mode, also further this options could go to theme adjust window, when fully implemented of course.


Thanks for the many updated we are getting recently !
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Now we just need to be able to customize muted tracks color or at least make the option to not dim them too much.
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RE: Area Selection
I am obviosly late to the party, but would it be possible to add "Create (Add to) Area Selection" commands to the "Media item bottom half+left drag" context? Pretty please
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Regarding + Theme: add theme color for selected track background

I use to have my track image as just a highlight around the edge of the track panel like below. Would it be possible to have something like that as an tickbox option in theme editor?

I've never really found a colour setting that really let's me know with 100% certainty what I have actually selected. Especially with lots of differently coloured tracks and with a few selected at once.

I'd even like to see a highlight option around the item or at least the top and bottom edge. Like we did before with the top edge line highlight option in preferences.

+1 (Trying to be nice, I'm not putting down a +1000 or anything )

For tracks AND items AND AIs! A highlight around the edges that is easy to turn on - in the theme tweaker, for example.This is my only serious gripe about Reaper's appearance.

I think it is a UI priority to make obvious what's selected and what's not, whatever track or item colors are in effect.
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Old 07-31-2020, 01:32 PM   #15
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[list][*]+ Theme: add theme color for selected track background
Wouldn't it be better if the background color could follow items? Meaning when we move an item to another track, after we release the mouse, to colorize the track where we dropped the item.

here's how it's done in Ableton:

https://youtu.be/xdwZpIpN6ys?t=141

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I just crashed Reaper trying to do an area selection of the tempo lane.
Same here.

Also, I was playing randomly with all kinds of Selections and got crashed. Error log files in the attachment.
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About inserts in TCP. On Default 5 themes, the vst name is too close to the left edge of the strip.
Here is a screenshot https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xHG...ew?usp=sharing
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Old 07-31-2020, 01:41 PM   #18
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It would be great if the track background could follow the TCP colour, visually seeing where you are in a large session by seeing the arrange view colours representing track control panel colours would be amazing!

Selected track colour background is a good step in this direction to start off
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Old 07-31-2020, 01:57 PM   #19
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When I copy or duplicate horizontally an area selection containing MIDI items, it shifts the MIDI data inside of the MIDI items if there are tempo changes on the way.
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And you still need to decide what to do with the stretching of split items. Most likely you don't need to stretch items outside the area selection. If the item was originally a whole, then stretch midi items with splitting them, and create stretch markers on audio items. No stretching required for split items.
Here is a video https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mXb...ew?usp=sharing This situation resonates with perception
Or another option is to bring this idea to the end and stretch not only split midi items, but also stretch split audio items
I would make it easier - no stretching items outside of the area selection, because it is conceptually confusing.
In general, if anyone has better ideas, please support this!

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Old 07-31-2020, 02:00 PM   #21
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thanks for the AS fix! looking good here.

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i tried "selected track background," but noticed that it seems to add whatever color you chose to the "muted track background" color. this is a little unclear to my eye. "track divider line" colors vary less, so if they popped out, they'd be super visible.
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Thank you very much for the cursor's bracket on selected track, it will be very convenient for those, who do not use the Default_6 theme.

Thank you for your attention !!!

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And by the way, the envelope points should also obey stretching along with items according to this idea, but outside the area selection the envelope points still do not obey stretching.
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Default Another AS weird behavior.

Devs, i think that moving envelopes with AS needs some fix. Mostly when i select a part between envelope points in order to move it, AS adds points but leave the previous envelope part unaffected as shown in the gif. If i select the whole envelope and it's points it does move the whole arrea without leaving the previous envelope as it should.
Could you please fix it so it works as normal AS with envelopes? It should move the previous selected part as well between the envelope points, so it should leave an empty space with edge points.

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...would it be possible to add "Create (Add to) Area Selection" commands to the "Media item bottom half+left drag" context?
+1 for "Media item" and "Media item bottom half" context
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It would be great if the track background could follow the TCP colour, visually seeing where you are in a large session by seeing the arrange view colours representing track control panel colours would be amazing!
This might be done by using track color as a basis and overlay it over selected track with blending modes and alpha. Then I believe it would be possible that colored and uncolored alternatives could be themed?

And when doing this, track color for unselected tracks bg would be a logical companion.
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This one is pretty good. Should be made into the default theme as well.
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+ Theme: add theme color for selected track background

This is so good !!!!!!
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Could right-click on an already selected track make it last touched?

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Awesome! And if this is possible I am sure it will be somehow also possible to provide an option for muted track colors! That would be extremely appreciated.
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This might be done by using track color as a basis and overlay it over selected track with blending modes and alpha. Then I believe it would be possible that colored and uncolored alternatives could be themed?

And when doing this, track color for unselected tracks bg would be a logical companion.
Yeah +1 to the folks asking for an overlay + blend option.
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installed this dev release for testing got instant crash with this log>

Faulting application name: REAPER.exe, version: 73.104.155.73, time stamp: 0x5f244f7a
Faulting module name: REAPER.exe, version: 73.104.155.73, time stamp: 0x5f244f7a
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x005e278a
Faulting process id: 0x1b10
Faulting application start time: 0x01d66788569bef20
Faulting application path: C:\REAPER\REAPER.exe
Faulting module path: C:\REAPER\REAPER.exe
Report Id: 0c0f67cb-672b-48cd-b237-361a5a884010
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:


While doing some area selection dragging and creating tracks.
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Thank you devs for adding “ theme color for selected track background”!

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I think instead of a color, there should be a blending mode. Or maybe, in addition to the color, there should be blending mode. Because as it is now having a single color (well, two, for odd and even tracks) disrupts the arrange view vertical division option.
Totally agreed. That would be the icing on top.
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Regarding + Theme: add theme color for selected track background

I use to have my track image as just a highlight around the edge of the track panel like below. Would it be possible to have something like that as an tickbox option in theme editor?

I've never really found a colour setting that really let's me know with 100% certainty what I have actually selected. Especially with lots of differently coloured tracks and with a few selected at once.

I'd even like to see a highlight option around the item or at least the top and bottom edge. Like we did before with the top edge line highlight option in preferences.

Both of these can be done right now, it is just a themers option via imagery, my tcp has a color bar for coloring and the selection outlin elike you want, but it is the color of the chosen color.
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Thank you for making the selected track color themeable. Very helpful!

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I think instead of a color, there should be a blending mode. Or maybe, in addition to the color, there should be blending mode. Because as it is now having a single color (well, two, for odd and even tracks) disrupts the arrange view vertical division option.
Agreed, I really wouldn't want to lose vertical division in arrange for selected tracks. A blend setting would work, or it could just follow the normal vertical division settings, using 'odd' and 'even' to dictate the two colours that are used for vertical division. Then if we want the selected track lighter or tinted, we just need to use the same 'track background odd/even' colors that we already have assigned for vertical divisions in arrange, and lighten/tint them appropriately for the selected track option in the theme editor.

I also agree that it would be GREAT to see this themeablity applied to muted track shading. I dream of the day I don't have those big black bars cutting up my lovingly organised projects
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Devs, i think that moving envelopes with AS needs some fix. Mostly when i select a part between envelope points in order to move it, AS adds points but leave the previous envelope part unaffected as shown in the gif. If i select the whole envelope and it's points it does move the whole arrea without leaving the previous envelope as it should.
Could you please fix it so it works as normal AS with envelopes? It should move the previous selected part as well between the envelope points, so it should leave an empty space with edge points.

Whoops.

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I see people want different options for the track selected color. If an image was used, we could add any kind of lines and transparency we want. I’m sure it’s more taxing on the CPU, but it would be worth it in my case.

If it were pink-lines-enabled we could even add fancy effects like a shadow at the left edge.
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So in this case when we're moving a selected envelope, it should look like this.



Because now it works like copying the envelope and not moving it.

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So in this case when we're moving a selected envelope, it should look like this.



Because now it works like copying the envelope and not moving it.
Plus one! Would be nice
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I see people want different options for the track selected color. If an image was used, we could add any kind of lines and transparency we want. I’m sure it’s more taxing on the CPU, but it would be worth it in my case.

If it were pink-lines-enabled we could even add fancy effects like a shadow at the left edge.
Agreed.

And if this image doesn't exist then it could default back to the new setting instead so best of both worlds.
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