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05-13-2018, 12:55 AM
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Issue with the new "track_selected" scalar...
Hi, all
I am using Reaper 5.78 and apparently, few new scalar values have been implemented in this version, among them a track_selected one (see here). So, as I want to make the track label color of selected tracks brighter than the ones that aren't, I thought that it would be a good occasion to use it, from which I tried this Walter instruction :
set tcp.label.color reaper_version<578 [176 176 176] ?track_selected [200 200 200] [176 176 176]
It doesn't work : all the track labels remain at a RGB 176/176/176, no matter if a track is selected or not. And doing this...
set tcp.label.color reaper_version<578 [176 176 176] !track_selected [200 200 200] [176 176 176]
...makes all the tracks labels appear with a RGB 200/200/200 tint, again, with no difference between selected tracks and others.
So, has this scalar value really been implemented ? I'm wondering, because it doesn't appear in the final changelog list of Reaper 5.78. Or maybe, I'm not using it correctly.
Clarifications would be welcomed...
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Last edited by cubic13; 05-13-2018 at 01:11 AM.
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05-13-2018, 05:33 AM
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Not everything in a pre-release branch necessarily makes it into a release branch immediately.
I would suggest treating the mixer_visible, track_selected and define_parameter functionality as 'for testing' until they make it into a final release changelog.
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05-13-2018, 05:49 AM
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Ok, I'll do so and give up using it for now.
But, as the track_selected scalar value obviously doesn't work, I'm wondering why it has even been listed as a new feature. Seems like a clumsy "WIP" attempt to me...
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05-13-2018, 06:47 AM
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Where has it been listed as a new feature?
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05-13-2018, 07:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by White Tie
Where has it been listed as a new feature?
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Here... So, you're going to say that it's not in the final 5.78 changelog. Fine... Just wondering why this implementation has disappeared between the "pre" stage and the final one : we are not even able to test it, as supposed that it was the initial aim. And worse : no one has advertised that it has been removed in the final 5.78 release...
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Last edited by cubic13; 05-13-2018 at 07:46 AM.
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05-13-2018, 09:12 AM
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Current changelog in LoL says that the new WALTER features, along with some other removed things, will come back in 5.82pre1.
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05-13-2018, 10:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xpander
Current changelog in LoL says that the new WALTER features, along with some other removed things, will come back in 5.82pre1.
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Thanks for this, xpander ! I didn't see it. So, it will comes back a little after the battle, but well : better late than never...
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05-28-2018, 02:08 PM
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If I'm understanding correctly, this is super important!
on 4k Monitors, trying to figure out what track is actually selected is next to impossible. We got a bit further with guidelines when dragging media around (great start) but it's not quite there.
IMO (please [dis]agree!) -- the currently selected track(s) should be tinted across the board, or somehow "boxed" so that it's blatantly obvious in the Arrange view which tracks are selected. Right now dropping things around is a crap shoot.
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05-28-2018, 02:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ferropop
If I'm understanding correctly, this is super important!
on 4k Monitors, trying to figure out what track is actually selected is next to impossible. We got a bit further with guidelines when dragging media around (great start) but it's not quite there.
IMO (please [dis]agree!) -- the currently selected track(s) should be tinted across the board, or somehow "boxed" so that it's blatantly obvious in the Arrange view which tracks are selected. Right now dropping things around is a crap shoot.
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I agree with you! And i AM on not on 4k.
i,d sugest:
- guidelines on dragging should appear on click a mediatem right away.(no need Tô drag)
And i agree: selected tracks content should be more obvious And i like something boxed like you told
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05-28-2018, 02:53 PM
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Here's a hilarious rendering by moi... but it illustrates the concept!
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05-28-2018, 04:24 PM
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your version looks more straight forward (dev side), but probably i wouldnt mind my version. More constrast of everything else : ) the guides look very well here it could be the same.
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06-01-2018, 09:43 PM
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The way the selected track(s) appear graphically is under the responsability of each themer : editing the tcp_bgsel.png image allows to "box" at least the track panel if it seems necessary, but indeed, not through the whole arrange area.
What was concerning me, is that we couldn't highlight the label of a track when this one was selected, until now. The track_selected scalar value could solve this and it seems that it will be implemented again in 5.92pre1.
Just hope that it will stay so until its final release, this time...
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Last edited by cubic13; 06-01-2018 at 10:03 PM.
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