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01-25-2014, 09:24 PM
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I would check out the tone boosters mastering plugins.
Barricade and their buss comp.
Also look at the comps at variety of sound. Thrillseeker vbl in particular.
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01-25-2014, 09:44 PM
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You really should not rule out taking your best projects to to be professionally mastered. You might find it is worth the cost. Just make sure it is a professional, and not just someone with a business card, and a credit card (some people do great work even in their living room, and charge very little so sometimes it is hard to tell the difference before you hear it).
Having said that I really like the Voxengo plugins.
I would not overlook nebula 3 for mojo
http://www.acustica-audio.com
The MeldaProduction plugins for utility (they have real good sales from time to time) at least check out their free bundle.
www.meldaproduction.com
Also do not overlook the Stillwell/Schwa plugins (with a good Reaper only rebate)
http://www.stillwellaudio.com
Last edited by zappsunzorn; 01-26-2014 at 10:12 AM.
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01-25-2014, 10:58 PM
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01-25-2014, 11:52 PM
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Greetings and welcome, Sentinel. Regarding your list, with the exception of har-bal and sound magic, they are all well known and respected for what they do. Much of it depends on your personal taste and workflow - if you're testing the waters, check out some of the freeware stuff as suggested by Sonic Vampire. I like TRacks-S (probably just cause that's what I have ), lots of pros swear by iZotope. Here's a link to a TRack-S mixing/mastering clinic on YouTube, worth checking out.
Also, I strongly agree with zappsunzorn that mastering is often best done by a third party - it's not that expensive (for potentially commercial tracks), and an outside "ear" can be invaluable for an objective viewpoint, even if you don't use the result.
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01-26-2014, 01:04 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2014
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Thanks for all the help guys. I'll be checking into all you suggested.
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01-26-2014, 01:21 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2013
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I don't like Voxengo GUI's, some of their plugins has almost the same interface, like CurveEQ, GlissEQ and SPAN, but it's good if they are cheap and you can afford many of them. Voxengo Elephant it's suitable for mastering.
I would suggest you to try Fabfilter plugins. Pro Q is a simple to use and handy EQ. And also they have Pro MB, which is a multiband compressor for mastering, which I didn't tried yet, but I've read that it's really good. Yes, Fabfilter stuff is a bit expensive, so sorry if it's out of your budget, but maybe you could try one and see if it works for you.
To be on topic with free or cheap plugins, let me tell you some free plugins:
- De la Mancha SixtyFive compressor here http://delamanchavst.wordpress.com/effects/
- Molot compressor from http://vladgsound.wordpress.com/downloads/
- Bootsy plugins from http://varietyofsound.wordpress.com/downloads/
Last edited by Victorr; 01-26-2014 at 01:26 AM.
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01-26-2014, 05:13 AM
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The Slate FG-X is on sale for $99 (needs an ilok though). Best I've ever heard for doing a loud master, keeps the dynamics intact more than others. The compressor is real nice too.
http://www.slatedigital.com/products/fgx
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01-26-2014, 07:27 AM
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If you're only starting out..forget about mastering.
Its mixing you need to focus on.
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01-26-2014, 07:32 AM
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I have to say Elephant is tough to beat IMHO and needs to be used to be fully appreciated. I'm not really into mastering suites but that's not a statement to their value; it is my liking to choose different sub tools based on the job at hand. It's entirely possible I could use a suite and love it, I just never have since there are so many ways you can build chains as psuedo suites in Reaper.
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01-26-2014, 07:37 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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Use the built-in Reaper plugs and spend $35 on Bob Katz's book instead:
Mastering Audio: The Art and Science
http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Audi...katz+mastering
It's a college course on how to do it.
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01-26-2014, 10:57 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinner
I would check out the tone boosters mastering plugins.
Barricade and their buss comp.
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This, great quality and price.
And Meldaproduction has great stuff, with monthly 50% sales.
First put them to good use and then you can demo some other brands (Voxengo, Waves, Flux) and see if their plugins bring something better or new for you.
If you want to buy the more expensive stuff; wait for sales.
Have fun.
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01-26-2014, 12:47 PM
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I would listen to Cosmic!
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01-26-2014, 04:07 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cosmic
If you're only starting out..forget about mastering.
Its mixing you need to focus on.
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Indeed! I'm just thinking ahead here and learning!
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Originally Posted by TimOBrien
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Once I get through the recording and mixing basics I need to learn, that will be my next step, thanks!
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01-27-2014, 01:51 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Netherlands
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Grab some pretty incredible free stuff to start with (also for mixing). I suggest all the stuff from Variety of Sound, the big Antress package and the legacy bundle from Jeroen Breebaart. Those three will keep you busy learning and experimenting for a LONG time
Hit the link in my signature for some download links. The Breebaart package is here: http://web.archive.org/web/201306081...dio_vst_jb.htm
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01-27-2014, 04:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TimOBrien
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Absolute bible.
I couldn't agree more.
Also look for Bob Katz' You Tube vids and check out the stuff about the loudness wars and EBU128. You'll quickly see why and what you'll need to do mastering. Only a small part of it has to do with plugins.
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01-27-2014, 04:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cosmic
If you're only starting out..forget about mastering.
Its mixing you need to focus on.
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Yes, master mixing, then you'll be able to master mastering.
Don't mix the two things up, or you'll end up with a mixed-up master.
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01-27-2014, 08:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sambo Rouge
Yes, master mixing, then you'll be able to master mastering.
Don't mix the two things up, or you'll end up with a mixed-up master.
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This made my day muahahah.
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01-27-2014, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TimOBrien
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That.
Do get Voxengo SPAN. From there you can do absolutely everything else with what you get in Reaper. Sometimes is takes more individual ReaPlugs plus some JSFX than if you just stuck a single Masterizer on there, but you get much more control, you know exactly what it's doing (no behind the scenes silliness) and in the end it's much more flexible.
Then drag some of your favorite songs into Reaper, slap SPAN on the Master track, and listen in your room on your monitors while watching the analyzer. Don't try to learn anything from this. Just do it. Over and over.
Then find yourself some audio restoration projects. Record the next concert you see via the Voice Memo app and inbuilt microphone on your phone, load it into Reaper and try to make it sound like something. Transfer some cassette recordings or vinyl records to digital and hack away at them. See if you can get them to a reasonable modern standard of quality. Through all of this, stop to listen to your reference material and always stop to honestly ask yourself if you're actually making it better, or just changing it. Are you mopping it up or just pushing the dirt around?
But first you need a reasonable system in a decent sounding room.
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01-27-2014, 11:46 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TimOBrien
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That link is for the 2007 edition(2).
There seems to be a newer 2013 edition(3) also.
http://www.amazon.ca/Mastering-Audio.../dp/0240818962
Does anyone know is there some major differences between these two editions?
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01-27-2014, 12:01 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Asheville NC
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There's not a huge difference, just some obsolete stuff updated and a few things restructured, apparently. I got this book last year and absolutely love it. Much better investment than overpriced boutique limiters for a beginner.
Also try and get to know Reaper's mastering plugs before plopping down a bunch of cash on something. There's several excellent sounding limiters included.
Last edited by Swamp Ape; 01-27-2014 at 12:08 PM.
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01-27-2014, 10:26 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Practice practice, practice mixing..........
Then slap AAMS on it for now...
Then practice, practice, practice mixing some more....
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