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Old 05-25-2020, 02:00 PM   #41
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Great idea !! or pls make hitting esc key to clear all area selections.
Already possible to assign a key to the action. Check the action list!
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Old 05-25-2020, 02:02 PM   #42
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As soon as Area Selection allows multi-lane simultaneous envelope actions (ie, simultaneously pull down the selected volume envelopes of 40 tracks) it will indeed be the end of Protools I think.

This is the most excited I've been in years guys. Thank you. A true productivity blaster.
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Old 05-25-2020, 02:02 PM   #43
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WIN!

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Old 05-25-2020, 02:04 PM   #44
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Doing Area Selection of the ITEMS LANE ONLY is currently not possible. \
This behavior follows the preference to move envelope points with media items (the toolbar button).
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Old 05-25-2020, 02:04 PM   #45
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I think that by pure necessity of consistency, a 4th recording mode: area selection auto punch, would be a good thing
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Old 05-25-2020, 02:05 PM   #46
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BOOOM! It took decade or so, but there's light at the end of the tunnel!
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Old 05-25-2020, 02:07 PM   #47
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As soon as Area Selection allows multi-lane simultaneous envelope actions (ie, simultaneously pull down the selected volume envelopes of 40 tracks) it will indeed be the end of Protools I think.
Hmmm that sounds like an awesome thing but how would this exactly be done in a simple and fast way? Just shift+adding area selections across relevant tracks? That's quite slow...
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Old 05-25-2020, 02:09 PM   #48
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v6.11+dev0525 - May 25 2020+ Area selection: add area selection and area selection edge mouse modifiers
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+ Custom actions: editor is now modeless and can be opened for multiple custom actions at once
+ Custom actions: improve accessibility of editor (Control+Up/Down to reorder custom action list, Enter to add to list, etc) [t=237012]
Thanks, nice improvements. It's much easier now to edit them without mouse.
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+ FX browser: allow drag/drop reordering of user-folders
+ FX browser: reorder user folders via Ctrl+Up/Down in tree
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# FX browser: improve handling of video processor when hiding prefixes
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Old 05-25-2020, 02:11 PM   #49
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When moving envelope segment edge points are always added and not removed. It just keeps adding them on and on. I've solved this issue by checking if the area edge data on source position has same values (left edge point and right edge point have same value) remove edge points along with area
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Is it possible to create multiple AS at once?
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Old 05-25-2020, 02:14 PM   #51
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Hmmm that sounds like an awesome thing but how would this exactly be done in a simple and fast way? Just shift+adding area selections across relevant tracks? That's quite slow...
Protools deals with it using grouping:

https://youtu.be/UdON6eDXj_U?t=136

Lofty thinking perhaps haha but we dream and things eventually happen here. This is half-assed addressed in Reaper by doing automation on Folders (ie, you probably want to trim all Harmony vocals together) but not quite the same level of intricacy.
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Old 05-25-2020, 02:15 PM   #52
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Impressive!
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Old 05-25-2020, 02:16 PM   #53
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Old 05-25-2020, 02:18 PM   #54
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When moving envelope segment edge points are always added and not removed. It just keeps adding them on and on. I've solved this issue by checking if the area edge data on source position has same values (left edge point and right edge point have same value) remove edge points along with area
THis!!!

I was about to post the same thing, a lot of edge points are being created when we move the area, if the edge points in area selection have the same value with the envelope value outside of the area, it would be great not to create edge points, but only when the envelope value outside of the area is different.
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Old 05-25-2020, 02:21 PM   #55
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Is it possible to create multiple AS at once?
Yes, there's an "add to selection" mouse modifier.
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Old 05-25-2020, 02:22 PM   #56
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THis!!!

I was about to post the same thing, a lot of edge points are being created when we move the area, if the edge points in area selection have the same value with the envelope value outside of the area, it would be great not to create edge points, but only when the envelope value outside of the area is different.
It happens only if area is envelope ONLY, when media track is also in the area then it removes previous edge points
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Old 05-25-2020, 02:24 PM   #57
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bug when moving envelope segment and move envelopes with item is option is ON:
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Old 05-25-2020, 02:25 PM   #58
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Thumbs up!
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Old 05-25-2020, 02:27 PM   #59
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This seems like a bug or unwanted behaviour

When i move the area with a selected envelope on a lane and i have open more than one lanes, it creates edge points to all of the lanes, and then when i delete the content of one lane , it deletes the content of all lanes. Edit: delete behaviour happens when the "envelope points move with media items is on", but still i believe it would be better not to have this behaviour even when this action is on.

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Old 05-25-2020, 02:27 PM   #60
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+ Ripple: allow moving media items across tracks with ripple enabled
Please pay attention to this little thing
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....15#post2251915
It is very necessary in practice
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Old 05-25-2020, 02:28 PM   #61
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Yes, there's an "add to selection" mouse modifier.
Missed that, stunning, thanks.
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Old 05-25-2020, 02:35 PM   #62
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Would really like to have some visual feedback regarding where the paste will land. But thats a whole other feature (ghosts) ...
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Old 05-25-2020, 02:47 PM   #63
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Devs, also can we have area selection for left-drag too?
It would be great to add left-drag to the arrange view(or track,media,envelope) context for the consistency of many users that are used to work with left-drag with time,marquee and now area selection. And for the sake that most of the editing happens with left drag(move-copy-paste etc)

In every other Daw, the area first is being created with the same mouse key as the one that moves or edits the area (left-drag) and then witht he same key you make the edits which i find very fast and useful
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Old 05-25-2020, 02:59 PM   #64
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ESC should also remove AreaSelection
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ESC should also remove AreaSelection
Assignable in action list, as mentioned.
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ESC should also remove AreaSelection
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Assignable in action list, as mentioned.
So we should create custom action to remove time selection also (to remove both)? There should be 1 action for that without to need to make it on your own (I know you can remove it with click also).
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Old 05-25-2020, 03:08 PM   #68
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Devs, also can we have area selection for left-drag too?
It would be great to add left-drag to the arrange view(or track,media,envelope) context for the consistency of many users that are used to work with left-drag with time,marquee and now area selection. And for the sake that most of the editing happens with left drag(move-copy-paste etc)

In every other Daw, the area first is being created with the same mouse key as the one that moves or edits the area (left-drag) and then witht he same key you make the edits which i find very fast and useful
I would imagine most of us have a lot of workflows that depends on plain old time selections. It’s gonna take a while to be able to transfer every one of these to be based around area selection. Hence there is a certain logic to starting with right drag until everything is filled in.
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Old 05-25-2020, 03:10 PM   #69
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Insert automation item cannot be made with area selection
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This is this bug:
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....23#post2274823


Values are not translated (since envelope segments are, I guess its a bug in AI)


Not sure if this is a indexing bug (maybe it will do something bad later?)


This happens when you delete part of the AI or when you make copy

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Already possible to assign a key to the action. Check the action list!
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Old 05-25-2020, 03:23 PM   #72
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anyway folks:

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I think bad translation with AI. to and from envelopes, happens with the vol envelope.

When i move AI with area from pan to width lane, it translates correctly, but when i move to Vol lane it doesn't as Sexan showed above. The opposite thing happens as well, when i move Vol AI with AS to other lanes, it doesn't translate the values correct
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I think this should not happen?
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Old 05-25-2020, 03:27 PM   #75
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I think bad translation with AI. to and from envelopes, happens with the vol envelope.

When i move AI with area from pan to width lane, it translates correctly, but when i move to Vol lane it doesn't as Sexan showed above. The opposite thing happens as well, when i move Vol AI with AS to other lanes, it doesn't translate the values correct
Pan and width use same values +100 -100, they are essentially the same
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I think this should not happen?
Looks pretty cool, but definitely a bug 😃 There are a number of behaviors when moving an area selection on a single envelope that will be fixed up for the next build. Please keep the reports coming!
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Looks pretty cool, but definitely a bug 😃 There are a number of behaviors when moving an area selection on a single envelope that will be fixed up for the next build. Please keep the reports coming!
Well I was not sure but we can still move them? yeah buddy I'm all over it
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So we should create custom action to remove time selection also (to remove both)? There should be 1 action for that without to need to make it on your own (I know you can remove it with click also).
Agree.

That said, there may be use cases and workflows for having the actions separate. What I'd propose as an alternative would be a new action that does everything:

Clear Time, Area Selections, and Loop Points

This way, we could bind that to the escape key and have it clear everything if we preferred, while still being able to maintain the current state if one had a need.
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Envelopes are not copied when shown in media track

EDIT: Also cannot be deleted
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Also devs, I know most coding will now divert to AS, but since the changelog mentions FX browser, I would like to remind that:

- The plugins listed are still too close to the left and top borders and the bottom border can easily fit one or two more plugins, but for some reason it can't no matter how we resize the FX browser. It seems like the cause of this is the horizontal scrollbar, even if it's not showing it is taken as if it IS showing, so text cannot go there. Reaper should be smarter about this

- Left pane should refocus position to where we were before deleting a developer in Developers section (ditto Categories)
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