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Old 08-01-2019, 09:02 AM   #1
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Default $8 mix speaker that replaces a MixCube or Yamaha NS10 speakers for a mix that sounds

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Old 08-01-2019, 12:48 PM   #2
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I'm 100% in favor of having a consumer-grade mono speaker for referencing against, but a 5-watt 2" seems like a bit much. MixCubes and NS10s are still at least large enough to reproduce a good chunk of your low end.
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Old 08-01-2019, 12:56 PM   #3
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My singer has a literal 4" enclosure with a Bluetooth speaker inside that is probably 3 inch, it's amazing how much volume and low end that thing puts out.
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I got a pair of mixcubes and one ns10 and this upsets me

There's more to why good mixes emerge from those two kinds of speakers than bass response.. but listening on all kinds of things in situ is wise.
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Old 08-01-2019, 02:45 PM   #5
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Hmm, you never know what stuff will actually be good. I would be lying if I wasn't extremely skeptical, but this stuff is always worth a look! I've been trying to find the Beritones for almost a year...

I still have to do a review on my Rockville sub...I bet you never heard of it!
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Old 08-01-2019, 05:29 PM   #6
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Hmm, you never know what stuff will actually be good. I would be lying if I wasn't extremely skeptical, but this stuff is always worth a look!
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I'm 100% in favor of having a consumer-grade mono speaker for referencing against, but a 5-watt 2" seems like a bit much. MixCubes and NS10s are still at least large enough to reproduce a good chunk of your low end.
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My singer has a literal 4" enclosure with a Bluetooth speaker inside that is probably 3 inch, it's amazing how much volume and low end that thing puts out.
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I got a pair of mixcubes and one ns10 and this upsets me

There's more to why good mixes emerge from those two kinds of speakers than bass response.. but listening on all kinds of things in situ is wise.
Ben, Yup!

I was surprised too, and this wouldn't be for everyone. But it works.

I thought about a "before and after" example, but it would be so subjectivity that it wouldn't be of much use. I'd basically have to provide a whole song (or 3) from my last record, where I didn't use this speaker, and a whole song (or 3) from my new record, where I did use it.

And then when you notice that it absolutely does sound better, how to you factor in the issue of "I've gotten better at mixing from experience anyway since my last record."


Do you know that old joke,
Q. "How many producers does it take to change a light bulb?
A: I dunno. What do you think?

The first studio I ever recorded in was Hyde Street Studios in San Fransisco, Studio A.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyde_Street_Studios

That was 1987. I was the client, not the engineer.

(the old Wally Heider studio). That's a real studio where a lot of gold and platinum records have been made.

The engineer was Dave Bach, the guy who now makes the killer microphones.

They had FOUR sets of speakers, and the Neve desk was set up to switch between them:

-The giant "voice of god" 3-ways built into the wall (which were basically just for impressing the stoned client)

--Some smaller good mid level studio monitor speakers.

--Literally a set of Yamaha NS10 speakers

--A small crappy two-cassette boom box, that would have cost about 50 dollars back then. It had two probably 4-inch cheap paper speakers, which is likely about equivalent of the ones I'm suggesting here (since the manufacturing technology has gotten better), just that there were two of them, not one of them. But you could mono any of the speakers sets easily from the desk.

The point with having NO bass on the worst one is to replicate someone playing it on phone speakers.

All those great 70s albums, Bowie, Zeppelin, Stones, still sound great on an iPhone blasting out the speakers.

(Adding this info to my blog post.)
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Old 08-02-2019, 12:02 AM   #7
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No, you can't replace NS-10M Studio. Just no.
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My singer has a literal 4" enclosure with a Bluetooth speaker inside that is probably 3 inch, it's amazing how much volume and low end that thing puts out.
Subjectively. The human brain perceives distortion as loudness. This is actually useful to us given our unhealthy love of loud audio (when we are personally enjoying the music!).
Going the other way with high powered systems with low distortion monitors we can be risking our hearing without realising it, as we do with good headphones.
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Old 08-06-2019, 03:49 PM   #9
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the article states

And it’s still important to sound good in mono, because a lot of dance clubs use mono, or near-mono mixes. Because if it’s a wide stereo mix with a lot of separation, one side of the room won’t hear the synth, and the other side of the room won’t hear the strings. And almost all AM radio stations broadcast in mono.

do you want to trust an article which talks about the importance of AM radio in 2019.
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Old 08-06-2019, 04:52 PM   #10
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It doesn't matter really if it is listened to in mono, if it falls apart in mono, something is likely wrong/badly mixed to begin with.
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