Old 11-06-2019, 10:14 AM   #2041
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I think I know what happens.. You probably don't have an VSTi in the track.. right? I'll update and make it so that if no VSTi is found I'll open the FX chain as with right click.
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Old 11-06-2019, 11:42 AM   #2042
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wow I've never experienced this... I'll have a look. thanks
Thanks! This happened yesterday as well, and I thought I'd solved it, by turning off the 'Allow window grid/track envelope/routing windows to stay open' (it's in General-Advanced UI/System tweaks). That seemed to work yesterday, but today, I had the same issue, with that option turned off.
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Old 11-07-2019, 05:23 AM   #2043
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Thanks! This happened yesterday as well, and I thought I'd solved it, by turning off the 'Allow window grid/track envelope/routing windows to stay open' (it's in General-Advanced UI/System tweaks). That seemed to work yesterday, but today, I had the same issue, with that option turned off.
I cannot reproduce the issue. I don't know why it could happen...
Could you capture a small video or gif? It may help
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I cannot reproduce the issue. I don't know why it could happen...
Could you capture a small video or gif? It may help
I've created a .gif for you here: https://imgur.com/a/JwivM6B
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Hi Heda, recently I just found the "NOTEPAD" feature
isn't working on MAC.
here's the video.
I hope it can do some help.
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Hi Heda, recently I just found the "NOTEPAD" feature
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here's the video.
I hope it can do some help.
cheers.
you should update REAPER. This is a bug that was fixed relatively recently.
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Old 11-11-2019, 01:46 AM   #2047
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I've created a .gif for you here: https://imgur.com/a/JwivM6B
Maybe you have a different setting that is causing this? could you send me your track Inspector settings file located in Track Inspector VIP settings folder? You can attach it here or you can enter the discord chat (link in my signature) and send me the file there.
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you should update REAPER. This is a bug that was fixed relatively recently.
okay, thx for the info, I'll go update it and see how it goes !
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Old 11-11-2019, 06:18 AM   #2049
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you should update REAPER. This is a bug that was fixed relatively recently.
problem solved ! thx u.

btw.

when I made a new version on a folder,(usually I use it on the mix print track which is a topest folder in my project)
it made a copy of all children track beneath it. is it normal ?
or I use it in a wrong way ?
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problem solved ! thx u.

btw.

when I made a new version on a folder,(usually I use it on the mix print track which is a topest folder in my project)
it made a copy of all children track beneath it. is it normal ?
or I use it in a wrong way ?
yes this is how it works.. duplicating the track also duplicates the children.
I don't understand exactly what is your workflow, or why do you need to make a version of the folder. Maybe you should just render the folder to a new track?
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Old 11-11-2019, 03:41 PM   #2051
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yes this is how it works.. duplicating the track also duplicates the children.
I don't understand exactly what is your workflow, or why do you need to make a version of the folder. Maybe you should just render the folder to a new track?
My purpose is to have many version of the MIX print. So I can compare previous mix.
This a old habit & wrkflow from PT,
I think it is always good to A/B compare current mix to the previous one, so I keep it.
Of course I don’t tend to duplicate the folder ,
I tend to render the folder and store the new take as a version ,
but not duplicate the whole folder, thats what I expect.
I think I’ll just make the last track (mix print) as a bus not a folder.
By doing this way the “version” feature can bring me the result I want
Thx for yo wrk. Its very nice of u.
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Old 11-12-2019, 02:33 AM   #2052
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@todoublez ok I understand now. the problem of using it as a BUS, is that each duplicated bus would create new sends.. and you will end up with many sends. Maybe it is just easier to render the stem or master mix, and use the insert into project option in the render window. then you could just create an empty track version and move manually the rendered item into the new version.
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Old 11-15-2019, 06:12 AM   #2053
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new mode for selected tracks in the FX group actions. clicking the button swwitches between
  • T(only current track in Track Inspector)
  • A(all tracks in project)
  • S(all selected tracks)

* v1.4rc41 (2019-10-16)
# new mode for FX groups actions to work on selected tracks


Heda may I ask which Font are u using for the plugin display in the gif ?
Looks really nice.
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Heda may I ask which Font are u using for the plugin display in the gif ?
Looks really nice.
If you go to settings and Load theme from file... You can select the included Default_6.0 theme in the "Track Inspector VIP/Default themes" folder. Then you will get the same appearance as in the gif.
The font is Calibri and Calibri bold
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Old 11-15-2019, 09:59 PM   #2055
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If you go to settings and Load theme from file... You can select the included Default_6.0 theme in the "Track Inspector VIP/Default themes" folder. Then you will get the same appearance as in the gif.
The font is Calibri and Calibri bold
Thx for the tips ! I’ll be checking that out.
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Hi Heda,
I found that the "send preset button" doesn't work on Mac.
I'm not sure did I perform it right
,here's my steps :

1. select destination track "reverb".
2. Ctrl+left mouse click on S1(save to preset "1")
3. select another track "xxx".
4. click on S1.
5. No response.

if I understand correctly it supposed to make a send from

"XXX" --to--> "reverb"

yes?
or did I perform it incorrecly?
If so ,plz point that out

here's the video below
,this might only happens on Mac which I'm using.
Thx for the wrk, really appreciated.



my current TI version is v1.4rc49

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Old 11-16-2019, 02:59 AM   #2057
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the steps are correct. it works here... the S1 button should be highlighted when it has a track stored in it. I never remember how the keys are named on Mac but CTRL key on PC may be not the same name on Mac. I also see that the text fonts are a bit larger on Mac? Or not aligned exactly. Maybe Mac doesn't have the Calibri font?
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I also see that the text fonts are a bit larger on Mac? Or not aligned exactly. Maybe Mac doesn't have the Calibri font?
Hi Heda I just tested the fonts setting with "Helvetica Bold"
wroks finde just like "Calibri Bold".




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the steps are correct. it works here... the S1 button should be highlighted when it has a track stored in it. I never remember how the keys are named on Mac but CTRL key on PC may be not the same name on Mac.
My Mac keyboard doesn't have ctrl, but do has a key called "control" which is right next to the option(alt).
btw, the "alt"(option) is working here as expected.
if the crtl key's not full competable for now, then I geuss I won't be able to operate other feature working with "cntrl". Sad.

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Yes that font looks good too. But the vertical alignment is not the same. It is not a font problem. It is the way Mac manages the fonts sizes differently than windows. I don't have Mac so I cannot test these things. Maybe I can make a setting to micro adjust this.
So CTRL key on PC is the ALT key on Mac? So confusing LOL. But it works with the alt key then right?
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Yes that font looks good too. But the vertical alignment is not the same. It is not a font problem. It is the way Mac manages the fonts sizes differently than windows. I don't have Mac so I cannot test these things. Maybe I can make a setting to micro adjust this.
Sounds great! can't wait to see the result


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So CTRL key on PC is the ALT key on Mac? So confusing LOL. But it works with the alt key then right?
No,
the Ctrl on Mac is called "control"
and the ALT on Mac is called "option"

not sure will this help, instead of expressing by words I rather show u the pic. so maybe u'll know whats the keyboard layout of mac better.
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The equivalent to control on Mac is command, not option.
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The equivalent to control on Mac is command, not option.
thx steve !
now my send presets are working by wrking with "cmd" !
lesson leaned. thnk u very much!
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thx steve !
now my send presets are working by wrking with "cmd" !
lesson leaned. thnk u very much!
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Old 11-21-2019, 05:41 AM   #2064
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I came to a point where I don't want to use Track Inspector anymore.

Even though I think it is absolutely brilliant and it should be an integral part of Reaper, the lag and annoyances in the workflow are simply too much for me.

I understand that Heda did a tremendous job here and I understand that problems happening here are beyond his reach and scope. That is why I am not asking for support or help, but I just have to, unfortunately, give up.

First show-stopper for me is first-click-action-thief:
On my Windows 10 and Reaper 5.985 x64 and Track Inspector v1.4rc49, whenever I issue a mouse-click action in the arrangement window, which involves a track different than the one selected, that mouse-click action is not executed, but, instead, the track selection is automatically changed and I can see TrackInspector changing it's face. In my Reaper setup, I have ALT+LEFTCLICK set to do Cut-media-item-at-mouse-cursor. Since I have TrackInspector running, I always have to click twice if the track currently selected versus the track where I am cutting that media is not the same.

Second show-stopper for me is speed:
TrackInspector simply takes too long to initialize a track selection change. Even running on Intel i7-8700T CPU and Nvidia GTX1050Ti GPU, it is still too slow. Agreed, it is somewhere between one second and two seconds, but still, when working with Reaper I click around a lot, change track selections a lot and it adds up to total annoyance and disturbance. As soon as I shut down TrackInspector, my Reaper is fast and responsive and a joy to work with, again. Combine this problem with the problem mentioned above, and I really come to the point where I can't stand having TrackInspector running anymore.

Heda, it really pains me to have to say this, but I feel like this obstacle is an ultimate one. Being programmer myself, I know very well that there is no way out of this. TrackInspector is simply a script and it will always be a second-class citizen in Reaper world. Unless it can be fully integrated into Reaper C/C++ code, it will always remain laggy and slow and cumbersome.

Thank you nevertheless.
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thank you for your feedback @AtmanActive
I use it on a very old 2007 computer without problems.

You can try two things before uninstalling Track Inspector

1: Preferences / Editing behavior / Mouse: Deactivate "Mouse click/edit in track view changes track selection"

2: Collapse or hide the Freeze panel. This is a known issue that causes some delay when changing tracks, where it searches the chunk data for the Frozen tracks to display the frozen plugins. I am considering making the list of frozen plugins an option, while maintaining the freeze/unfreeze and filter selection to freeze buttons visible. that would solve the issue until we could hopefully have a native API function to get the list of frozen plugins. This is only an issue on tracks that have big data inside them, with some specific plugins.

Could you test number 2 and tell me if it improves? Thank you
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Old 11-21-2019, 06:07 AM   #2066
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Thank you Heda for your suggestion.
I have now made the changes you suggested to my Reaper preferences and I disabled 'Show...' checkboxes in TrackInspector's preferences for everything but FX, Sends, Receives, Track Delay and Meters. These five are what I actually use on daily basis. Everything else I never even touched.

Let me run with this for a week or two and I will report back here.
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Thank you Heda for your suggestion.
I have now made the changes you suggested to my Reaper preferences and I disabled 'Show...' checkboxes in TrackInspector's preferences for everything but FX, Sends, Receives, Track Delay and Meters. These five are what I actually use on daily basis. Everything else I never even touched.

Let me run with this for a week or two and I will report back here.
thanks. I believe you should immediately see the improvement. No need for a week. I have a feeling that will be the case. Thanks to _Stevie_ that discovered and reported the issue. I'll update the freeze panel option later.

another thing is to hide the meters. That would prevent changing the sends to the analysis track that gives the EBUR128 meters etc... I want also to add an option to use normal meters, (no RMS EBUR128) wchi won't need changing sends either.

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Old 11-21-2019, 11:56 AM   #2068
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Heda, that's a great idea.
I use LUFS EBUR128 on my master via DPMeter anyway. That's one and only point where I need advanced metering, and, again, it can't be in the TrackInspector since I need to be able to monitor it at all times, no matter which track is selected.
Fingers crossed.
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Hi Heda,
Thread is getting huge so I may missed some update info.
Just found the right click on sends name brings me to the destination Track .
And it wrks on recieve panel also, It is such a amazing idea... brilliant I would say.

Cuz during the mixing process,
I usually tend to “think” less,
more choices or steps to do could make the “magical moment” or instinct feeling get lost before achieving the sound.
And that magical moment is the value of the wrk.
I guess thats why most of the popular plugin has the same “easy to use” signature.
Like fabfilters Pro-Q series etc...
Even the hardware share the same concept
Like LA-2A (thrrs only two main knob to tweak, its really hard to end up crapy result..of course if u speaking of the harmonic coloring it might not always fits any source u fed in, anyway its out of the point .)
Also 1176 / GATES Sta-Level / RCA BA-6A all really simple desgin..
So no matter how many feature the TrackInspector has.
As long as its easy to use/Keep things simple, I’ll stick wit it.
Especially that jump back and forward between send track & recive track...
That really amplified the “Keep it simple” concept. Cuz I got hundred of tracks in a project to deal wit sometimes, its really handy when I wanna tweak the sends fx a bit and jump back to its recive track.
Thank u.
Cheeeeers.

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Hi,
Just wondering if there's an option to make it not create a send to the Track inspector? The send channel it creates seems to interrupt side chain plugins. For example when I use Pro-C with side-chain compression, if I have the track inspector on the plugin won't be able to receive the side-chain signal.
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Heda, that's a great idea.
I use LUFS EBUR128 on my master via DPMeter anyway. That's one and only point where I need advanced metering, and, again, it can't be in the TrackInspector since I need to be able to monitor it at all times, no matter which track is selected.
Fingers crossed.
also there is a dedicated Track Inspector instance.. for the master track
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Hi Heda,
Thread is getting huge so I may missed some update info.
Just found the right click on sends name brings me to the destination Track .
And it wrks on recieve panel also, It is such a amazing idea... brilliant I would say.
thank you for your feedback
also.. when going to the receiver track from the send.. did you notice there is a new "<back" button at the very top of Track Inspector, where the track name is. This will change back to the sending track without having to look in all receives which one was the one you were before.
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Hi,
Just wondering if there's an option to make it not create a send to the Track inspector? The send channel it creates seems to interrupt side chain plugins. For example when I use Pro-C with side-chain compression, if I have the track inspector on the plugin won't be able to receive the side-chain signal.
yes.. hiding the meters panel or disabling RMS and EBUR128 (from the meters panel menu) should avoid creating sends and hidden track. I have a plan to add an optional simple metering that doesn't need the sends. But it won't be RMS nor EBUR128 then.
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new "<back" button at the very top of Track Inspector
Wow, it's very nice, thanks heda!
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Default What's up with this error on Track Inspector Master script?

?:-1: attempt to compare number with nil
This error pops up everytime I press play.
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yes.. hiding the meters panel or disabling RMS and EBUR128 (from the meters panel menu) should avoid creating sends and hidden track. I have a plan to add an optional simple metering that doesn't need the sends. But it won't be RMS nor EBUR128 then.
just tried and it works as you said, thanks!
look forward to that new feature!
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?:-1: attempt to compare number with nil
This error pops up everytime I press play.
sorry, without more information, no idea
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just tried and it works as you said, thanks!
look forward to that new feature!
some progress.. adding a simple meters mode. that will not need sends, but simple features.
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some progress.. adding a simple meters mode. that will not need sends, but simple features.
Really nice! Can the color of the simple meters be adjusted?
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Really nice! Can the color of the simple meters be adjusted?
Yes It will have the same options as the other meters. Right now it is only being displayed as the track color.
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