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Old 12-15-2022, 04:00 AM   #1
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Default [Notation] - Summary of all issues - 54 issues - 7 fixed & 4 solved

Here is a summary of all the bugs of the score editor for a few years

Menu
Issue 1 (easy)- https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.ph...51&postcount=2 - Snappizicato : It would be nice to add at least 'slap' for the bass players
Issue 2 (easy) - https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.ph...72&postcount=3 - trill line ?
Issue 3 (easy) - https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.ph...58&postcount=4 - Phrase / Slur - Why is "set notes ends to start of next note (legato)" not in the 'phrase/slur' menu ?
Issue 4 (easy) - https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.ph...6&postcount=11 - 'technique' has nothing to do with 'ornaments' and so remove the word 'ornament' in 'remove ornament' ?
Issue 5 (easy) - https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.ph...3&postcount=14 - default clef : this menu is not intuitive or logical
Issue 6 (easy) - https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.ph...01&postcount=9 - differentiate 'insert text notation' & 'add text ornament' in menus?

Action list
Issue 7 (easy) - https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.ph...72&postcount=5 - the dynamic 'm' is useless
Issue 8 (easy) - forum.cockos.com/showpost.php?p=2600993&postcount=6 - Action "create custom track notation" [Fixed]
Issue 9 (easy) - https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.ph...0&postcount=20 - "Make phrase"/slur & "slur" : two similar actions?
Issue 10 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=273365 - button for 'toggle minmize tie...' action does not visually activate or deactivate

Zoom [Priority]
Issue 11 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=221017 - Notation bug - horizontal vs vertical zoom is not independent - [Priority]
Issue 11a - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=259813 - Zoom to mouse cursor doesn't work - [Priority]
Issue 11b - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....63#post2643463 - horizontal zooming in does not match zooming out - [Priority]
Issue 12 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=265083 - Uncontrolled zoom in Musical Notation view
Issue 13 - forum.cockos.com/showpost.php?p=2507973&postcount=1 - zoom changes after changing subproject [Fixed]
Issue 14 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=259815 - synchronization of Notation to project doesn't work
Issue 15 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....66#post2628566 - zoom of new items
Issue 16 - forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?p=2032295#post2032295 - window resize bug [Fixed]
Issue 17 - forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=276726 - View between piano roll and notation - 2 - [Solved]
Issue 18 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=276725 - The piano roll view does not match the score view (wrapped view)

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Insert notes
Issue 19 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=268162 - Wrong notes with many accidentals and "Insert note at nearest X"
Issue 20 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....61#post2017561 - step input with keyboard
Issue 21 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....80#post2512880 - pasting into second item elongates first one
Wrong position
Issue 22 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=261122 - Wrong position of notes when they are close [correction cancelled by developers]
Issue 23 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....88#post2510088 - Wrong position of the dots when the notes are close
Issue 24 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=265512 - Note stems are incorrect height
Issue 25 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=226376 - 16th secondary beams misaligned
Issue 26 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....88#post2442888 - touching hairpins visually blending together
Issue 27 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=265152 - Key Snap logic broken
Bad writing of musical rhythms
Issue 28 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....76#post2037776 - "Correct overlapping notes" always ON
Issue 29 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....92#post2600292 - The automatic 'beam' does not work from 4/4
Issue 30 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....55#post2607355 - the writing of the rhythms is not good!! - [Priority]
Accidental
Issue 31 - forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?p=2442853#post2442853 - Accidental cannot be set [Solved]
Issue 32 - forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?p=2590266#post2590266 - double accidentals going into single accidentals[Solved]
Scrolling
Issue 33 - http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.p...anging context - unwanted scrolling when changing context
Issue 34 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=264670 - No auto-scroll during playback/recording
Issue 35 - //forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?p=2036254#post2036254-[/url] hand scroll not smooth [Fixed]
Issue 36 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....73#post2442873 - when not focused, still reading values
Issue 37 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....60#post2036260 - window edges drawing bugs
Issue 38 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....52#post2650152 - Notation view jumps around when using step input
Others
Issue 39 - forum.cockos.com/showpost.php?p=2508106&postcount=2 - item not selected after changing subproject [Solved]

Export
Issue 40 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....ighlight=bfooz - Xml export, voices and staves
Issue 41 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....96#post2442896 - cross-staff slur
Issue 42 - //forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=276251 - international alphabet characters when exporting to pdf from reaper [Fixed]
Issue 43 - //forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=276361 - Problem with gracenote export [Fixed]
Issue 44 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....60#post2654860 - Problem with exporting in musescore gracenotes on first beat of the measure [request for correction to musescore]
Issue 45 - forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=276777 - export problem in musescore of articulations - [Fixed by musescore]
Issue 46 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=277592 - How to fix PDF export for 95% of our needs (6 things to fix)

Chord
Issue 47 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....69#post2497269 - Identify chords on editor grid - how to edit chord names?
Issue 48 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=259624 - Notation bugs with identify chords

Performance
Issue 49 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?p=2529984 - Performance problem with not so many staves/notes

Mouse modifiers [Priority]
Issue 50 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....84#post2032284 - wrong context in notation view
Issue 51 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....41#post2527841 - Some left drag actions break left click in Notation mode [Priority]

not classified
Issue 52 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....15#post2365015 - Regression - Midi_Sort() disregards notation events when before note on
Issue 53 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....77#post2442877 - active track change does not generate undo point
Issue 54 - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=275895 - tracknames overlap staves

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Old 12-28-2022, 12:27 PM   #2
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ISSUE 16 :

the (Cmd + wheel) zoom on Musescore is really awesome. If it was the same on Reaper, that would be really good.
This should be Issue 11.

Btw, good work collecting all these into a single thread.

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With the current views (continuous, non-continuous) this would be possible only in the continuous view.

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Old 01-26-2023, 01:15 AM   #3
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ISSUE 11 is the most important to fix for the workflow in the score editor.
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Old 02-04-2023, 07:40 AM   #4
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This is a great list. I noticed some of these bugs while prepping some music sheets for a soloist inside Reaper. Devs should take note of this thread.
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Old 02-04-2023, 08:54 AM   #5
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This is a great list. I noticed some of these bugs while prepping some music sheets for a soloist inside Reaper. Devs should take note of this thread.
thank you for your message
If you have encountered other bugs than those listed, feel free to file a bug report and I will add it to the list afterwards. (if you do, please don't post a new bug in this thread but in a separate thread )
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Old 02-05-2023, 09:16 AM   #6
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Bump, especially 11.
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Old 03-26-2023, 02:09 AM   #7
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Old 03-30-2023, 02:01 PM   #8
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bump for all especially ISSUE 11
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Old 03-30-2023, 02:10 PM   #9
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bump for all especially ISSUE 11
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a lot of people want that.
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bump for all especially ISSUE 11
Yes, that is the most important one to me as well.
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Old 03-31-2023, 03:15 AM   #11
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I personally think, but this is my opinion, that Issue 11 and issues 30 and 29 are the most important.
It's a little violent what I'm going to say and please excuse me in advance, but for me, this score editor (unknown but nevertheless fantastic) has for the moment little future.

Indeed, we have no possibility of writing the rhythms correctly (in good music theory) from two or three instruments (two or three staves). However, there are possible workarounds for a single staff or possibly two piano staves.

And it's currently impossible to move comfortably and smoothly with the zoom as it is.

And it's really a shame!!! Because this editor has great potential.
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Old 03-31-2023, 04:03 AM   #12
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,,,this editor has great potential.
True. It is a cross between midi editor and standard notation editor, which is a great way of working, especially because of the grid.

The other advantage is that it is scriptable.
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I too see the potential of Reaper's Notation editor as great and unique but I am drawn away from it because of the very bugs persisting in the long term that are reported in this summary.
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Old 04-01-2023, 07:32 AM   #14
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unfortunately, I think that many of you are in this case...
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Old 04-01-2023, 07:56 AM   #15
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Still I always come back to Reaper's notation editor because of its piano roll like/MIDI approach and features!
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Old 04-01-2023, 08:44 AM   #16
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Still I always come back to Reaper's notation editor because of its piano roll like/MIDI approach and features!
Concerning issue 11 and issue 30, I put the little tricks in the comments at the bottom, to get out of it even if it's not easy.
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Hello, for version 7, it would be really good please to have an improvement in at least one of the 2 main things: issue 11 and issue 30
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Hello, for version 7, it would be really good please to have an improvement in at least one of the 2 main things: issue 11 and issue 30
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Why ISSUE 22 is deleted?!

I didn't expect this surrender from the Reaper team!

I think the only really weak point of Reaper is part of the notation editor!
Since the notation editor is there, why not fix these errors?

Perhaps it is thought that Reaper is not used by real composers?!

Let's hope you reconsider or that at least native realtime communication with a notation software (even Musescore) is developed, otherwise we will end up using another DAW to compose with the help of the staff anyway.
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Why ISSUE 22 is deleted?!

I didn't expect this surrender from the Reaper team!

I think the only really weak point of Reaper is part of the notation editor!
Since the notation editor is there, why not fix these errors?

Perhaps it is thought that Reaper is not used by real composers?!

Let's hope you reconsider or that at least native realtime communication with a notation software (even Musescore) is developed, otherwise we will end up using another DAW to compose with the help of the staff anyway.
Hello, you're right. Unfortunately, daw developers in general don't work on score editors, whereas there is a huge demand in the "real world" from instrumental musicians or composers by trade. What's more, it would probably sell them lots of extra licenses. It's quite incomprehensible, but that's the way it is.
You have a script to link musescore and Reaper. You can try it out. It might be a good idea. It's easy to find
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Hello, you're right. Unfortunately, daw developers in general don't work on score editors, whereas there is a huge demand in the "real world" from instrumental musicians or composers by trade. What's more, it would probably sell them lots of extra licenses. It's quite incomprehensible, but that's the way it is.
You have a script to link musescore and Reaper. You can try it out. It might be a good idea. It's easy to find
HI,
Thanks for the reply.

I like Reaper because it seems to "think different" from what I have seen in about 25 years of using other DAWs.
This is why leaving the score editor "unfinished" disappoints me.

I tried the script for Musescore, it's a good idea, but it's not very simple and creates an uncomfortable workflow.
It is also one-way (Musescore--->Reaper).

Anyway I'll try but for now unfortunately I can't use Reaper as the main DAW for all my projects.
(And I don't think I'm the only one).
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Anyway I'll try but for now unfortunately I can't use Reaper as the main DAW for all my projects.
(And I don't think I'm the only one).
Yes, I know lots of people who need a score editor with piano roll, audio track....and don't have a solution. Forced to use musescore for the score etc..
and all these people don't switch to Reaper because of this.
Reaper's score editor has real potential...
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Plus consider the scripting ability, that makes the real potential ².
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Plus consider the scripting ability, that makes the real potential ².
Hello and thanks.

Unfortunately I am not a skilled programmer and writing a script just because there are a few bugs doesn't seem entirely correct to me.

As the notation editor has great potential, I'm sorry that those few but important bugs are not fixed.

We'll see in the future but at the moment unfortunately Reaper is not solid enough for those who use notation.

I understand the usefulness of having a powerful piano roll, but for quite a few centuries, music (especially orchestral music), has been written and read from a staff

However at the moment these shortcomings are unfortunately felt when doing some types of work!

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