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View Poll Results: What Is Your Preferred Audio Editor?
Audacity 13 18.31%
Wavelab 3 4.23%
SoundForge 11 15.49%
Another DAW 5 7.04%
Sumthin' Else 25 35.21%
Don't Use One, Don't Need One 14 19.72%
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Old 04-20-2011, 02:12 PM   #1
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Default Favorite Audio Editor?

I have yet to assign an audio editor in Reaper and was interested to see..... what is everyone's personal favorite external audio editor program, and what do you like most about that particular one?

Also, what do you use Reaper for, or what genre of music?

We may add a poll if I get a good response, assuming there's any interest.

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Old 04-20-2011, 02:46 PM   #2
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I have yet to assign an audio editor in Reaper and was interested to see..... what is everyone's personal favorite external audio editor program, and what do you like most about that particular one?

Also, what do you use Reaper for, or what genre of music?

We may add a poll if I get a good response, assuming there's any interest.

Welcome aboard. Feel free to search the forum for other threads about external editors. There are several.

I use Sound Forge8. If I didn't have SF, I would trust some of the freebies out there like Audacity.

Blues/Country are the genres I hang closest to.



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Old 04-20-2011, 02:55 PM   #3
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Thank you DM, I realized shortly after posting that there were probably tons of threads about this, lol. Nevertheless, it would be fun to poll and see which one comes out most popular. Unless that has been done too, of course.

Audacity is in my collection too. I myself play styles from Fusion to Rock/Alt/Metal and produce some Electro/Techno, many of the sub genres of Electronica.
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Old 04-20-2011, 02:59 PM   #4
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I've used Audacity and now do Wavosaur because it's easy to understand and to handle with.
It has got a VST rack option and ASIO support.
I like the documentation/help.
For me it's very intuitive at all.

Genre of music i like...from Classic to Heavy Metal. Make music... Pop, Rock, Jazz, Blues, Funk
I hate "volkstuemliche Musik". Be glad not to know what that is (hopefully)

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Old 04-20-2011, 03:58 PM   #5
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I had Audacity as my external editor. But I just got annoyed every time it popped up when I happened to double click an item in Reaper so I removed it from the settings now when I read your post. So thanks for posting. I never feel a need for that kind of lo-level editing.
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Old 04-20-2011, 04:03 PM   #6
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Old 04-20-2011, 04:04 PM   #7
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I use Audtion 3.01 love it. But they all work OK... even the free ones... I'm just used to that one and prefer it to SF.

I'm stricktly into neo-classical-light metal-funkadelicatessen
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Old 04-20-2011, 04:28 PM   #8
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Ok, for gits and shiggles, I've made a lil' poll for anyone who'd like to represent their personal fave audio editor, since for the moment Reaper doesn't really offer this up. If you use another DAW or Sumthin' Else, feel free to post in the thread and let us know what's your bag!
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:00 PM   #9
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Like Hopi I use Audition 3.01 (very soon to be AA CS5.5) but as its so good I also use it as my DAW.
If I need to do midi I will use either Reaper, Sonar or Cubase.

All these daws have their benefits and drawbacks and mind you one person's plus is another's minus.
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:58 PM   #10
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I love to use Adobe Audition up to 1.5, but considering switching to Sound Forge 10 now.
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Old 04-21-2011, 03:36 AM   #11
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Old 04-21-2011, 03:45 AM   #12
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Mostly reaper now alone with occasions of wavelab

Reaper just needs to make it so ripple editing moves items also on edge adjustment
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Old 04-22-2011, 03:55 PM   #13
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Wavelab; mostly for mastering, though. I rarely use it while working in Reaper, or any other DAW I've used in the past.
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Like Hopi I use Audition 3.01 (very soon to be AA CS5.5) but as its so good I also use it as my DAW.
If I need to do midi I will use either Reaper, Sonar or Cubase.

All these daws have their benefits and drawbacks and mind you one person's plus is another's minus.
we are of one mind, eh Mike?

I've run 'audtition' since way before it was that.. I think it was the first audio app I ever bought... as full on cooledit pro... syntrillium days....

but the 3.01 really is sweet ... just that widget for changing volumes for any selection in the wav makes it worth it...

I prefer not to have to go into ext. ed. but when I need it, I really need it. Audition is surgical!
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Old 04-23-2011, 01:42 PM   #15
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Like MichaJo I moved from Audacity to Wavosaur. I like the fact that you can use the VST's in real time, something that I could never work out how to do in Audacity, and I find it useful for projects other than Reaper ones.
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we are of one mind, eh Mike?

I've run 'audtition' since way before it was that.. I think it was the first audio app I ever bought... as full on cooledit pro... syntrillium days....

but the 3.01 really is sweet ... just that widget for changing volumes for any selection in the wav makes it worth it...

I prefer not to have to go into ext. ed. but when I need it, I really need it. Audition is surgical!
Hopi do yourself a favour and download the trial AA4 when it comes up - then start saving up those foreign exchange dollars ;-)
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Old 05-02-2011, 03:03 AM   #17
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Just found this post, and good to see that SF is in front

I think Reaper just needs to tone up its 2-track editing and processing and it would be an all in one editor and DAW in one clean neat package.

Sound Forge is missing a trick without an equivalent on Mac, I have to go through Parallels which isn't exactly the same as it native on OS X

I hope and believe that Reaper could do this for OS X and make it even better and more fluid alongside a multi-track view

I do hope this is coming in Reaper v4
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Old 05-02-2011, 04:11 AM   #18
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I seldom use one but when I do I use Wavosaur because it's so small and efficient.
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Old 05-03-2011, 08:19 AM   #20
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So pardon the newbie question (hey - we're in newbieland afterall!)...

But why would you want/need to use an external audio editor from REAPER,
while actually running REAPER?

Can you provide an example or two of why you'd need to do this?

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Old 05-03-2011, 09:38 AM   #21
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But why would you want/need to use an external audio editor from REAPER,
while actually running REAPER?

Can you provide an example or two of why you'd need to do this?
Any editing on a single audio file that would be too hard or would take too long to be done in REAPER, specially the post-production of audio, like mastering. Yes, it can be done in REAPER, but when you use an audio editor you have more control over it.

Also, imagine you just need to raise the volume of a file. Or trim the audio file (remove silence at begining and end). It can be done on a DAW, but it's just easier to be made on an audio editor.
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Old 05-03-2011, 09:41 AM   #22
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Adobe Soundbooth. I'm a video editor, so it came with Adobe CS5 Production Premium, and it's really good.
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Any editing on a single audio file that would be too hard or would take too long to be done in REAPER, specially the post-production of audio, like mastering. Yes, it can be done in REAPER, but when you use an audio editor you have more control over it.

Also, imagine you just need to raise the volume of a file. Or trim the audio file (remove silence at begining and end). It can be done on a DAW, but it's just easier to be made on an audio editor.
Thanks for the explanation... makes perfect sense.

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Any editing on a single audio file that would be too hard or would take too long to be done in REAPER, specially the post-production of audio, like mastering. Yes, it can be done in REAPER, but when you use an audio editor you have more control over it.

Also, imagine you just need to raise the volume of a file. Or trim the audio file (remove silence at begining and end). It can be done on a DAW, but it's just easier to be made on an audio editor.
Completely agree, but I hope it will all be possible soon inside Reaper 4
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Completely agree, but I hope it will all be possible soon inside Reaper 4
I don't think it's really necessary. Within REAPER you can set an external audio editor that pops out when you doubleclick the media item. In this way, you have all the capabilities of your favorite audio editor, but with a feeling that it's working "inside" REAPER. I'm pretty satisfied with this way of working.

The built-in audio editor would surely be something I'd not use.
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So pardon the newbie question (hey - we're in newbieland afterall!)...

But why would you want/need to use an external audio editor from REAPER,
while actually running REAPER?

Can you provide an example or two of why you'd need to do this?

Thanks

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ummm sorry but that to me was a silly explaination... all those things can be done inside reaper MUCH more easily...

however there are things I need on occassion that Audition does better... here is an example:

Say I have a recorded track that has a few clicks and pops in it... even had one where the guitar play using a mic sat in a squeaky chair.. hahaha... And I want to remove all those things.

So I have the reaper project running and from in it I open one wav file into Audition used as the 'external editor'...

Now I can use what I call it's surgical tools... to find and zoom into the things I want to fix.... the major tools for me are, noise reduction, click\pop "fix single click now", and clip restoration.. but of course there are others...

So I make the fixes in Audtion, hit save and close and the fixed wav file is now sitting right there in the reaper project.
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Old 05-04-2011, 10:49 AM   #27
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Audacity for me, mainly. I've been using it for five or six years now, and it handles the bulk of my editing needs just fine. Can't complain about the pricetag, either. I also use MAGIX Audio Cleaning Lab, The Amazing Slow-Downer, and Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch (Paulstretch) for certain specific tasks. I haven't yet configured any of these to work with REAPER, though - I'm only getting started with the program.
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Like Hopi I use Audition 3.01 (very soon to be AA CS5.5) but as its so good I also use it as my DAW.
If I need to do midi I will use either Reaper, Sonar or Cubase.

All these daws have their benefits and drawbacks and mind you one person's plus is another's minus.
I'm downloading the Adobe Production Premium CS5.5 trial (which includes AACS5.5) as I type this (whilst I wait for the upgrade DVDs to be delivered: 8-10 businessdays...sheesh). Can't wait to give AA CS5.5 a spin!
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Old 05-05-2011, 04:35 AM   #29
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I just use Reaper. The zoom in function is good enough for chopping, reversing and generally playing with stuff. I tend to resample VSTi a lot and just use another track lane to do it.
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Old 05-10-2011, 09:49 PM   #30
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When I do use one I like wavosaur
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Finally had a chance to play with Audition CS5.5. Bearing in mind that the last Audition I used was version 1.5....wow. So far, I'm impressed. Especially the spectral type editing is incredible; using photoshop like tools (lasso select, healing brush etc) to fix pops, glitches, or whatever really is fantastic!
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Old 05-11-2011, 12:23 AM   #32
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audacity i use mostly but for simple loop trimming i can do that in reaper using highlight tool and rendering.
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Completely agree, but I hope it will all be possible soon inside Reaper 4
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Any editing on a single audio file that would be too hard or would take too long to be done in REAPER, specially the post-production of audio, like mastering. Yes, it can be done in REAPER, but when you use an audio editor you have more control over it.

Also, imagine you just need to raise the volume of a file. Or trim the audio file (remove silence at begining and end). It can be done on a DAW, but it's just easier to be made on an audio editor.
All that you can do very easy in Reaper, don't see the point with an external editor.

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I didn't vote because I didn't see my name in the poll.
I'm the editor, Reaper is the tool I use.
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OK. I fell in love with the audio editing capabilities of PT HD years ago.

I loved being able to home in on the bass guitar track, tweak the amplitude of individual notes and/or slide them seamlessly back and forth on the time line, whilst being able to see all the OTHER events happening on the timeline at t eh same time.
That is what I CALL audio editing.

How would I go about achieving that level of control easily in Reaper, with or without a 3rd party programme?
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OK. I fell in love with the audio editing capabilities of PT HD years ago.

I loved being able to home in on the bass guitar track, tweak the amplitude of individual notes and/or slide them seamlessly back and forth on the time line, whilst being able to see all the OTHER events happening on the timeline at t eh same time.
That is what I CALL audio editing.

How would I go about achieving that level of control easily in Reaper, with or without a 3rd party programme?

You on drugs? You've just described editing IN REAPER!
In PT there are no auto crossfades, they just got 'clip gain' and you can't move audio while seeing the waveform.

In reaper that would be making a split (autocrossfade) then trimming the item volume, hold alt and drag the waveform to slip it without changing the item edges.
What's referred to as 'slip' editing.
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[...]hold alt and drag the waveform to slip it without changing the item edges.
What's referred to as 'slip' editing.
OMFG. I didn't know this could be done. What? ...I've only been using REAPER for 4 years. Forum lurking FTW!

Thanks for that, EpicSounds.
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You on drugs? You've just described editing IN REAPER!
In PT there are no auto crossfades, they just got 'clip gain' and you can't move audio while seeing the waveform.

In reaper that would be making a split (autocrossfade) then trimming the item volume, hold alt and drag the waveform to slip it without changing the item edges.
What's referred to as 'slip' editing.

No - you just didn't understand what I was saying.

If you had used PTHD you would know exactly what I mean.

This sort of editing can be achieved in PTHD very simply and with no need to split or anything else. You drag-select the bit you want to work on and then can apply a number of editing tools that are not really that accessible in Reaper at all. In PTHD they are one menu click away. And the whole time you are editing you can see all the other tracks you have selected to view.
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