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Old 02-21-2007, 08:52 PM   #41
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What was that suggestion again?
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Old 02-21-2007, 10:00 PM   #42
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Track template should work fine. You build your mixer the way you want it with the eq you prefer as a built in.
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Old 02-21-2007, 10:08 PM   #43
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I'd like to see the existing plug-ins using less CPU before built channel processing (to be honest).
This is my biggest concern. For me EQ gets used almost every time and the ones that are useful seem to use the most power. I just want to be able to do this without the CPU hit.
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Old 02-22-2007, 09:45 AM   #44
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Jason/Art:

"har har"....

/ c'mon, this time it was written in bold lettering and quoted 3 times in the same post...!
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Old 02-22-2007, 08:57 PM   #45
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The problem is that those EQ's don't use CPU for nothing, that's why they're good. You just can't make a very good sounding plugin that's using 1% CPU.
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Old 02-22-2007, 09:03 PM   #46
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The problem is that those EQ's don't use CPU for nothing, that's why they're good. You just can't make a very good sounding plugin that's using 1% CPU.
surgical ones can usually do good at low cpu

sonitus for example...
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Old 02-22-2007, 11:22 PM   #47
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This is my biggest concern. For me EQ gets used almost every time and the ones that are useful seem to use the most power. I just want to be able to do this without the CPU hit.
Rahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!


I just stumbled onto this page and I have to agree, inbuilt EQ = bloat.

What about this for an idea tho - controls on each tcp and mixer channel, mappable to whatever plug you like-brilliant! No use, no bloat. It's incredible this hasn't been implemented before, whatta ya guys think?
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Old 02-22-2007, 11:27 PM   #48
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chip?

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Old 02-22-2007, 11:38 PM   #49
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Did I open this can of worms in the "Project 5" thread? I really wouldn't put this in my top 10 requests, but I think this could be cool. The main advantage is the ability to SEE the EQ curves of every track in the mixer at a glance, the main disadvantage (of all previous implementations, at least) has been that you're stuck with a single EQ. What would really make this an interesting feature, IMO, would be if the EQ display could be made compatible with several different EQs (Jesusonic and Reafir, for example) - if we had a choice of EQ, I think this would go from a "meh" addon to being really compelling.
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Old 02-23-2007, 05:16 AM   #50
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Ive got a compromise idea...

A button,(like the FX button) on each track labeled EQ,...press the button and you get the FX window>load an eq plug(or any plug you want really) and drag it where you want it in the chain(this is important to me)....then everytime you press the EQ button, the GUI of the plug you loaded pops up allowing instant access to Track EQ. Like the current FX button, it could have an on/off button for zero cpu use bypass or maybe r-click the EQ button could change the plug and/or disable it.

...whadya rekon?
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Old 02-23-2007, 05:35 AM   #51
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Now that's an interesting idea.

Good point that you don't necessarily want the eq at the beginning or end of the FX chain.
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Old 02-23-2007, 06:01 AM   #52
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Thanks Art.

Got more...

Maybe it could load multiple GUIs so you could instantly view an EQ, compressor and meter plug...at the last opened screen position.

...and pressing the EQ button again would then close the GUIs.
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Old 02-23-2007, 07:38 AM   #53
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Did I open this can of worms in the "Project 5" thread? .
This has been a topic of discussion for a while now, chip mcdonald being the main supporter of it -- it would be an excellent thing, and with someone as "out of the box" as Justin/Christophe, i think they have the knowledge and intuitiveness to pull it off...
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Old 02-23-2007, 05:54 PM   #54
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Do a small right-click drag in white space in order to deselect all items without moving the cursor.

I guess most people here have their favourite eq set up as default effect for new tracks. And the eq that is best for that is something that no two members will agree on!
Yes, this is the issue!
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Old 02-24-2007, 10:57 AM   #55
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Yes, this is the issue!
Not with assignable plugin knobs!

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Old 02-24-2007, 12:40 PM   #56
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chip why dont you change your name already?

APK mcdonald

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Old 02-24-2007, 03:47 PM   #57
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I vote for in-channel EQ. I do so because I have a Tascam FW-1884, and with things as they are, the board's EQ (which can handle 4-band, with gain, freq, and Q controls) is useless in Reaper. So, not only do I vote for in-channel EQ, I'd like it to be 4-band and parametric, and visible to Mackie Control Emulation.

And, to assuage the folks who quite rightly don't want or need in-channel EQ because of the many excellent eq plugins that are around, I would second the suggestion that it be optional.
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Old 02-25-2007, 04:55 AM   #58
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Can I vote against it???

I've never ever ever used an integrated EQ on an audio track ever. Always use third-party plugs.
If they're going to be in Reaper, please please let them be optional.
Every single one of my old DAW's had rows and rows of buttons on tracks I never ever used, while I was struggling to get a decent view of the stuff I recorded.

It's a nice feature to round out the 'complete recording package' thing with though.
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Old 02-25-2007, 06:46 AM   #59
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Can I vote against it???


sure, i think its beeen done before
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Old 02-25-2007, 08:06 AM   #60
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Of course, an ideal option would be to have (optional) assignable buttons.

Really, I'm surprised nobody has suggested this already!!
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Old 02-25-2007, 08:39 AM   #61
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...please please let them be optional.

Every single one of my old DAW's had rows and rows of buttons on tracks I never ever used....

Hear, hear. Plus one, without a doubt.


In fact, I think there should be a skull and crossbones at the top of this forum's first page, with logos from all the audio apps that died -- or are dying -- horrible deaths due to bloat.

It should be a cautionary tale for anyone suggesting features.


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Old 02-25-2007, 09:29 AM   #62
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a big negatory on built in.
But some magic that a CS sees the eq in the fxbin could be useful, if the automation parameters can be assigned in a logical order.
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Old 02-25-2007, 09:35 AM   #63
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I dont need it. I dont Eq very many tracks anyhow. Mostly its just high pass.
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Old 02-25-2007, 09:59 AM   #64
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Of course, an ideal option would be to have (optional) assignable buttons.

Really, I'm surprised nobody has suggested this already!!
I wonder why as well...
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Old 02-25-2007, 10:01 AM   #65
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I dont need it. I dont Eq very many tracks anyhow. Mostly its just high pass.
usually if you need to eq EVERY SINGLE track you may want to consider your source material.
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Old 02-25-2007, 10:21 AM   #66
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I don't think it's a good idea to use the same eq on every track, I like to mix 'em up, and I have more than one favorite eq.

So lets save the space that buttons, and assignable knobs would use up, and concentrate on some kind of track fx display/bin....much much more useful I reckon.
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Old 02-25-2007, 12:22 PM   #67
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So lets save the space that buttons, and assignable knobs would use up, and concentrate on some kind of track fx display/bin....much much more useful I reckon.
Yeah, an optional plugin header on the mixer with enable/disable would be awesome. The global fx page has been discussed and apparently he's considering it too...
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Old 02-25-2007, 12:58 PM   #68
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I think I don't know what the TCP is .. track control panel?
For some reason, I was thinking midi controller stuff ... hah

anyway, I would use HP and LP filters if they were built-into the track headers or FX window since I almost always need them and like the idea of being able to have control over that separately from other EQ-related tasks - especially if we could choose the curve and frequency of the filter
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Old 02-25-2007, 03:21 PM   #69
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Yes, TCP=(track control panel).


Bevosss, the fx bins would have to be on the TCP, I don't use the mixer, but if having all the goodies on the mixer is the only way, then I would like to be able to resize it down to about the height of one track to just reveal the mixer head with all the goodies, and the tab lane, and no faders.

This would mean when clicking on the tabs, they would need to float....

yeah, I can dream.....

wait a minute....what thread am I in .....oops,..sorry, getting a bit carried away here..
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Old 02-25-2007, 03:27 PM   #70
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again,

http://www.cockos.com/forum/showthre...mplitude+mixer
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Old 02-25-2007, 03:41 PM   #71
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Haa....yeah, I'm in here talking to myself, while you're all over there in the right thread....

I think I'll paste it in over there..
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no problem, it cant be mentioned enough
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Old 02-26-2007, 11:59 AM   #73
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I like to mix 'em up, and I have more than one favorite eq.
Hey, I know, somebody suggested we have assignable plugin knobs, that way you can use whatever you want...

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So lets save the space that buttons, and assignable knobs would use up, and concentrate on some kind of track fx display/bin..
How does that differ from what we have now, clicking on the FX button that already exists...?

If it were more specific - then why not just put the controls on the TCP...?
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:03 PM   #74
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interesting thought chip. I think you are going somewhere with this one
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/me throws weight behind optional assignable knobs then runs for cover.
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:11 PM   #76
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:59 PM   #77
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Hey, I know, somebody suggested we have assignable plugin knobs, that way you can use whatever you want...
But more than one at a time?


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How does that differ from what we have now, clicking on the FX button that already exists...?
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one click would bring up the floating gui, as opposed to, click-scroll (depending on where the vsti is in the chain) -double click (to float) -click(to remove chain window)....waaaay to slow!....it needs to be click-open, click-close.
Track fx need to be displayed on the mixer and/or TCP, somehow, somewhere, somewhen.
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interesting thought chip. I think you are going somewhere with this one
No, forget all of that.

How about, a NEW idea instead... We have assignable knobs on the TCP that controls functions in plugins of our choice!!!!!
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But more than one at a time?
At least a few knobs. Minimum 3.


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Track fx need to be displayed on the mixer and/or TCP, somehow, somewhere, somewhen.
I agree, the FX menu is .. less than optimal... in the way it's laid out and arranged, not to mention the "ultra hip and cool Win95" look....
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in samplitude, you only use the fx menu analog for arranging plugins in different order and different routing.. should be similar with reaper
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