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10-17-2019, 08:01 AM
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Track Mute and FX
Does muting a track automatically disengage/disable any effects plugins on that track?
Or another way of putting it: does muting a track remove the plugins from memory/CPU usage? If not, what's the best way to do that? To prevent muted track plugins from stealing cycles even when not in use.
Thanks! Hope everyone's doing well!
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10-17-2019, 08:03 AM
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I believe it does. You can check it yourself in the performance meter.
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10-17-2019, 08:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny Gioia
I believe it does. You can check it yourself in the performance meter.
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Thanks Kenny - simple on/off test indicates no CPU usage when muted.
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10-17-2019, 08:29 AM
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Doesn't it depend on this setting?
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10-17-2019, 09:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgemeal
Doesn't it depend on this setting?
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Right which leads me to this: Samplitude has a similar operational feature. Mute just kills audio output, but "mute inactive" disables the entire track (including FX plugins from CPU). You select "mute inactive" by right-clicking on each channel mute button. Other DAW's might have similar functionality.
So why the option? What goal or purpose is there in leaving the track FX chain operational even when muted? I don't believe Samplitude has a hidden menu option for choosing the mute default setting (like Reaper which is cool).
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10-17-2019, 09:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry Kriz
So why the option?
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CPU usage mainly I guess, my projects are small so I never need to really worry about CPU usage, but it can be useful for me to disable that option when editing and doing a lot of track mute toggling, for example, while playing I mute a track, then stop play, then if I unmute that track I'll hear a 1/4 second or so of what was playing on the track when it was muted, that can get annoying. I'm going to try and make a script now to toggle that option and put it on a toolbar button so I can see its state and toggle it when needed.
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10-17-2019, 10:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgemeal
Doesn't it depend on this setting?
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Yes. But we're in "newbieland" so I assumed he didn't change that.
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10-17-2019, 10:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry Kriz
So why the option? What goal or purpose is there in leaving the track FX chain operational even when muted? I don't believe Samplitude has a hidden menu option for choosing the mute default setting (like Reaper which is cool).
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Behavior when muting.
For instance, when you mute things the default way, your computer has to perform functions to remove and add back that processing. So you'll probably hear a glitch or delay as you mute things on the fly.
If you uncheck that box, muting and unmuting should be instantaneous without any glitches as the CPU doesn't have to adjust.
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10-17-2019, 10:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny Gioia
Yes. But we're in "newbieland" so I assumed he didn't change that.
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True. I don't pay much attention to the subforum, I use a utility I made that only lists the top 40 or so latest/new/unread posts from only the forums I'm interested in, so a lot of my replies are probably somewhat off topic for a particular forum, sorry about that , I'll try and pay more attention.
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10-17-2019, 03:08 PM
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FWIW, since it was mentioned in the OP - I don't believe muting affects RAM usage in most cases no matter how that option is set. Like, a VSTi that has loaded samples into RAM will keep them loaded up and not release that memory when you mute it.
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10-17-2019, 07:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgemeal
True. I don't pay much attention to the subforum, I use a utility I made that only lists the top 40 or so latest/new/unread posts from only the forums I'm interested in, so a lot of my replies are probably somewhat off topic for a particular forum, sorry about that , I'll try and pay more attention.
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No need to apologize.
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10-18-2019, 10:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny Gioia
Yes. But we're in "newbieland" so I assumed he didn't change that.
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lol exactly right
you know I really do try to find printed answers first. Searching for keywords doesn't always produce a correct match. Responses are going into personal files for my learning curve ;-) cheers and thanks!
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10-27-2019, 01:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgemeal
CPU usage mainly I guess, my projects are small so I never need to really worry about CPU usage, but it can be useful for me to disable that option when editing and doing a lot of track mute toggling, for example, while playing I mute a track, then stop play, then if I unmute that track I'll hear a 1/4 second or so of what was playing on the track when it was muted, that can get annoying. I'm going to try and make a script now to toggle that option and put it on a toolbar button so I can see its state and toggle it when needed.
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That makes sense. Thanks!
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