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v5.963+dev1210 - December 10 2018
+ Automation: do not apply envelope trim value to new envelopes when bypassing envelopes outside of automation items
+ Video: gfx_evalrect() returns -1 if failed compiling code
+ Video: reduce compilation overhead for gfx_evalrect()
+ Video: restrict code that gfx_evalrect() can execute (no gfx_*, no user functions)
# Video: increase video processor multiprocessing max to 4 threads (may or may not be worthwhile)


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Old 12-11-2018, 12:42 PM   #2
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+ Automation: do not apply envelope trim value to new envelopes when bypassing envelopes outside of automation items
Hi !

Is it for this serious issue ?

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....87#post2034487

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=207454

With this new release, ths issue is not solved :

Inside a perfect world, there should be no sound because volume envelope is seted on - inf. But there is sound at the start of the AI...

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Is it for this serious issue ?
Nope still there,
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I am having worse performance on video with all these devs releases. At least using mp4 files. I guess with other better codecs for editing it won't be an issue.

On v5.963 x64 (windows10) I can play a 4K mp4 file without problems. I takes a moment less than a second to display the video when I start playing but it works.

With v5.963 + dev1210 x64 (windows10) , all I see is green when playing and when I stop I see the image stopped. Then I play and I can see some frames moving (less than a second) and then back to green. Strange. I use ffmpeg, I have better performance with ffmpeg than with VLC. I have tried updating VLC to v3 but it is the same. So I guess I keep ffmpeg first.
I've tried to enable/disable several video multithread etc options,same result.


Another issue I have is project loading times with many video files. It takes a lot of time loading the project in the splash screen while loading all the videos. Insert 1000 videos in a project. Save it. Close it. And reopen it.. and you will see. Loading 1000 wav files is fast. But 1000 videos is very slow.
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Inside a perfect world, there should be no sound because volume envelope is seted on - inf. But there is sound at the start of the AI...
But then if you started playback before the item, you'd get a nasty click as it transitions to the item.
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I am having worse performance on video with all these devs releases. At least using mp4 files. I guess with other better codecs for editing it won't be an issue.

On v5.963 x64 (windows10) I can play a 4K mp4 file without problems. I takes a moment less than a second to display the video when I start playing but it works.
Can you tell me which version the behavior changed in? The old/ directory has previous builds.

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Another issue I have is project loading times with many video files. It takes a lot of time loading the project in the splash screen while loading all the videos. Insert 1000 videos in a project. Save it. Close it. And reopen it.. and you will see. Loading 1000 wav files is fast. But 1000 videos is very slow.
That is to be expected, don't put 1000 videos in your project.
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That is to be expected, don't put 1000 videos in your project.
is it getting video resolution and metadata information etc? Maybe that could be cached. It would be good if I can add 100 videos at least. An action to delete that cache if needed could be added.

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Can you tell me which version the behavior changed in? The old/ directory has previous builds.
yes! Good that REAPER installs so fast!!!

tested with multithread on and pre-fetch 4 threads and 4k 60fps video
dev1123 OK
dev1125 OK (green screen while loading a bit.. then quickly plays smooth)
dev1126 OK (same)
dev1127 OK
dev1128 OK
...
dev1205 OK
dev1208 FAIL.. green screen.. audio stutters each 2 seconds or so. only with a 4k 60fps video.. 1080p videos work well.
dev1210 FAIL... same
dev1211 FAIL... same
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But then if you started playback before the item, you'd get a nasty click as it transitions to the item.
Is it possible to reduce this time transition to avoid the click and the actual issue or have an option to select the time transition ? Or perhaps it could be a nice thing to give the choice of the transition with this (fade-in and fade-out between envelope and AI envelope) :


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dev1208 FAIL.. green screen.. audio stutters each 2 seconds or so. only with a 4k 60fps video.. 1080p videos work well.
(oops blah blah)

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dev1208 FAIL.. green screen.. audio stutters each 2 seconds or so. only with a 4k 60fps video.. 1080p videos work well.
Thanks! I'll try revising some of the changes in the DirectShow output mode in the next build to see if it helps.
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Thanks! I'll try revising some of the changes in the DirectShow output mode in the next build to see if it helps.
tested dev1212 and dev1213 and still doesn't work. sorry.
Tried different combinations of multithread and prefetch options... or disabling them, but nothing.
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Or adding actions ? "Reduce the time transition between envelopes and selected AI envelope" or "No time transition between envelopes and selected AI envelope" ?

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tested dev1212 and dev1213 and still doesn't work. sorry.
Tried different combinations of multithread and prefetch options... or disabling them, but nothing.
Thanks for testing, I'll try another thing for the next build.
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Hi Justin,

With 0.1 ms, transition between vertical points inside envelope is fare better (less loudly) than the transition between envelope and AI. Why you don't use the same time transition between envelope and AI ?

Listen this video :
https://youtu.be/ATDsTlqGr4I

Or why not to add a "transition time for Ai and envelope" option inside "Envelope Dispay" exaclty like "Transition time for automatically created envelope edge points" ?

Or why not to modify "Transition time for automatically created envelope edge points" to "Transition time for automatically created envelope edge points and envelope/AI" ?

When we use lots of AI, this long time transition becomes a real pain for me. I don't like to insist but for me it's the worst issue I have never met on Reaper.

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