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04-22-2021, 09:57 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 395
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i need a daw that works properly
in general ive been with reaper 8yrs
these are repeating issues over several builds and upgrades on 2 different computers
i find i have to build macros for simple functions
like save/recall cursor position
these macros are frequently corrupted somehow
i cannot run the 2 64 bit vsts i down loaded
w/o serious crash issues
in the timeline area
in any attempt to move regions or markers
the "hand" ie zoom function overrides
select edge move region ect all
i cant use regions because of this
the zoom is so fast the timeline instantly goes to 10hrs
why is a zoom so sensitive
in the track context
the left mouse double click is overwriten by the single click
i cannot click fast enough for the double click to work
i cannot cnt click (select range of items)
btw this should be 'add items to selection'
doesnt exist in sws either
there is also no action to 'move item to prev or next track
those would be a pretty basic macros
after every permetation of useing time selection i still have weird behaviors with it ,
.....a whole track of recording will seem to dissapear because the audio is only recorded to a time selection that magically appeared that is so small its not even visable
i know this is prob 'user error somehow
but w/e
i would be very happy with reaper if it behaved like it should
i cannot do proper work having this endless frustration
how can i get a working version?
these are repeating issues over several builds and upgrades on 2 different computers
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04-22-2021, 10:55 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2020
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beat Machine
i find i have to build macros for simple functions
like save/recall cursor position
these macros are frequently corrupted somehow
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What do these macros contain (the actions?)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beat Machine
i cannot run the 2 64 bit vsts i down loaded
w/o serious crash issues
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Can't really blame Reaper for plugins not working, can you? If it's a bug, then there's the Bug Reports forum.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beat Machine
in the timeline area
in any attempt to move regions or markers
the "hand" ie zoom function overrides
select edge move region ect all
i cant use regions because of this
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Markers and regions move fine and edges are selected properly here. I'm assuming from all this you're using a laptop? With a touchpad? Perhaps your problem lies there?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beat Machine
the zoom is so fast the timeline instantly goes to 10hrs
why is a zoom so sensitive
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Sounds like a touchpad issue?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beat Machine
in the track context
the left mouse double click is overwriten by the single click
i cannot click fast enough for the double click to work
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Touchpad?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beat Machine
i cannot cnt click (select range of items)
btw this should be 'add items to selection'
doesnt exist in sws either
there is also no action to 'move item to prev or next track
those would be a pretty basic macros
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beat Machine
after every permetation of useing time selection i still have weird behaviors with it ,
.....a whole track of recording will seem to dissapear because the audio is only recorded to a time selection that magically appeared that is so small its not even visable
i know this is prob 'user error somehow
but w/e
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Esc to remove time selection?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beat Machine
i would be very happy with reaper if it behaved like it should
i cannot do proper work having this endless frustration
how can i get a working version?
these are repeating issues over several builds and upgrades on 2 different computers
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If these were common issues, you'd find a bug report for them. Can you find any?
Perhaps Reaper Blog's Jon could help you out:
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=252438
Last edited by Pink Wool; 04-22-2021 at 10:08 PM.
Reason: I originally wrote "Perhaps it's not the tool then?" which I've removed in order to not come across as taking a jab at the OP
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04-22-2021, 04:37 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2019
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reaper makes a fool out of me again
so the issues on the timeline were caused by 1 option in sws zoom options(in extentions) being turned on
everything is Aok now
"cant really blame reaper for plugins not working"
thats freakin quote worthy
kinda like F.O.&Die but like subtle
see you guys like never,,bye
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04-22-2021, 10:01 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2020
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Well, that escalated quickly! My intent definitely wasn't to insult you (perhaps to make you see that you might be experiencing more user-end issues than product-end?)
I chose my wording badly for which I'm sorry! The "Perhaps it's not the tool?" was out of line. Sorry! Didn't mean to take a jab on you!
About the plugin comment:
It's true that most of the times from MY experiences with plug-ins, it's the plug-in that's not working, not Reaper. Again, sorry for the misunderstanding! I will try to be more careful and kind with my words in the future!
PW
Last edited by Pink Wool; 04-22-2021 at 10:18 PM.
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04-23-2021, 04:00 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 12,769
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beat Machine
so the issues on the timeline were caused by 1 option in sws zoom options(in extentions) being turned on
everything is Aok now
"cant really blame reaper for plugins not working"
thats freakin quote worthy
kinda like F.O.&Die but like subtle
see you guys like never,,bye
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Good luck acting like a child in your next forum too. I wonder why, karbomusic isn't jumping in here and spending an hour out of his day to help. Kids !
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05-01-2021, 05:01 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,167
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wft
Can't double click. Don't know how to add items to selection. Can't find action to move items up/down. 8 years in Reaper. Amazing.
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05-01-2021, 05:25 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 29,260
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daodan
Can't double click. Don't know how to add items to selection. Can't find action to move items up/down. 8 years in Reaper. Amazing.
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CTRL+Click (which is the case in myriads of software and OS')
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daodan
Can't find action to move items up/down.
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The arrow keys on the num pad. If you want the action that does that, go into the actions window > find shortcut > click the up or down arrow key.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daodan
8 years in Reaper. Amazing.
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8 years huh, it's a couple hours to skim the manual LOL.
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Last edited by karbomusic; 05-01-2021 at 05:33 PM.
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05-01-2021, 05:53 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,167
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Quote:
Originally Posted by karbomusic
CTRL+Click (which is the case in myriads of software and OS')
The arrow keys on the num pad. If you want the action that does that, go into the actions window > find shortcut > click the up or down arrow key.
8 years huh, it's a couple hours to skim the manual LOL.
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I know that stuff. My message was about OP. If it was addressed to me. If it was for BeatMachine I'm afraid he'll see it "like never"🙂
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05-01-2021, 06:07 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: May 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daodan
I know that stuff. My message was about OP. If it was addressed to me. If it was for BeatMachine I'm afraid he'll see it "like never"��
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Gotcha. I should have read closer. So yea should be for the OP.
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05-03-2021, 09:08 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 395
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posts in this thread are for cookos
solving technical issues may not be helping in Metaphysical terms here
so i think the issues arise because reaper isnt developed in accordance with any type of workflow
there also seems an unstableness to building action macros
i suppose most issues
in regard to working on the timeline are "accidentally" pushing the wrong button
ie user error,...
or too many choices?
lack of any clear direction in terms of systematic recording editing
and comping 0 discussion about producing
i think this goes back to my first point
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have a dedicated recording track
move new recording to new track in a folder
-the moving tracks down needs 3 custom actions
cycle through track sizes to make edits
-have a dedicated track you are comping to
dup item and ripple behind,..make a custum action
cant do it with modifiers
save and recall edit cursor position by double click then single click
double click context-applied action AFTER single click action
definitely broken
can only area select
item
cant make record between markers run
in any config
so these are just examples,ie,..generally just continuious sel, unsel, press esc, open track manager
just to make sure a recording dont get lost
mostly im just wasteing alot of time trying to get structural procedures in place
ive imported my old build and none of the toolbars work,..i guess custom actions arnt exported,..would have been nice to know
its been 6 years since i brought up these simple issues
forums has not done
the job of mitigating
these issues
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05-03-2021, 09:42 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 13,333
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Are you able to write full sentences?
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05-03-2021, 01:01 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Leipzig
Posts: 6,621
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vitalker
Are you able to write full sentences?
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You should read it as poetry...
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05-03-2021, 01:28 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 13,333
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Meo-Ada Mespotine
You should read it as poetry...
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I am not able to read poetry without neither rhythm nor rhyme.
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05-03-2021, 11:58 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Near Cambridge UK and Near Questembert, France
Posts: 22,754
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BeatMachine: I am not wishing to diss you in any way whatsoever, but your comments have been so succinct that they are very difficult to understand.
I have read your posts on here several times in an attempt to "get" exactly what your sticking points are, but find it almost impossible to understand your shorthand comments.
Could you try and explain a little more clearly exactly what the specific issues are that you have problems with?
"Workflow" is way too generic without a fuller explanation, for example.
None of us are you so we don`t know what you are wanting to achieve.
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Last edited by ivansc; 05-05-2021 at 09:20 AM.
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05-04-2021, 05:54 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Charleston, SC
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If you are not willing to use Reaper as is then your only option is to build your workflow using custom actions and code. If you won't do that then you need to pick another daw.
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05-12-2021, 09:11 AM
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#16
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 395
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crash on save
crash on save
so it happened again
this is 7-10 times in the last 6 months
that i press save and reaper freezes
2017 win 10
lenovo ideapad flex 4
2 core intell processors
@ 2.1 ghz
reaper versions 6.something and 5.99
i have 9.11 of virtual memory
am haveing 3 tracks of samples
1 drum loop
and bass guitar
with 16 reaper native vsts
reaper,..
its really just isnt behaving like a professional product
macros not working is one thing but 30 min of work just went poof
you should autosave an rpp if a project has been open for 5 minutues
that would be an example of mitigating a problem your causing
its too ridiculous to try to tell a company how to run their business
how about a searchable page of known macros for download
i really am not learning if and what or but commands to make music
i have my limits
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05-12-2021, 03:59 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 12,769
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beat Machine
crash on save
so it happened again
this is 7-10 times in the last 6 months
that i press save and reaper freezes
2017 win 10
lenovo ideapad flex 4
2 core intell processors
@ 2.1 ghz
reaper versions 6.something and 5.99
i have 9.11 of virtual memory
am haveing 3 tracks of samples
1 drum loop
and bass guitar
with 16 reaper native vsts
reaper,..
its really just isnt behaving like a professional product
macros not working is one thing but 30 min of work just went poof
you should autosave an rpp if a project has been open for 5 minutues
that would be an example of mitigating a problem your causing
its too ridiculous to try to tell a company how to run their business
how about a searchable page of known macros for download
i really am not learning if and what or but commands to make music
i have my limits
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You clearly need a different daw. Laptops are a pita too with daws. I hope you find a daw that works for you. Auto save works here
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05-13-2021, 03:21 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 656
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beat Machine
crash on save
2017 win 10
lenovo ideapad flex 4
2 core intell processors
@ 2.1 ghz
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Weird, been using a macbook pro mid 2012 w/ 1Tb ssd & 6gb of ram without any issues, like 5 or 6 crashes in the past 3 years most from plugins and just one from overload, yet i can load like 4 or 5 spitfire libraries, some amp sim, reverbs and other things wihtout stutter, so yeah, weird. Also, autosave, you can set the intervals between saves
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05-13-2021, 08:00 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Oblivion
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I mean, it sounds an awful lot like Reaper is not the DAW for bri*, ahem, Beat Machine.
But after 8 years of complaining about Reaper and however many banned forum accounts...must be some good reason OP is still here.
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05-14-2021, 04:30 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 2,872
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Quote:
Originally Posted by foxAsteria
I mean, it sounds an awful lot like Reaper is not the DAW for bri*, ahem, Beat Machine.
But after 8 years of complaining about Reaper and however many banned forum accounts...must be some good reason OP is still here.
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Each time someone unveils a sockpuppet account of the now infamous bri I am wondering.. how does one tell if it is him? He surely isn’t the only one ranting about Reaper..
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05-14-2021, 09:34 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Oblivion
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phazma
Each time someone unveils a sockpuppet account of the now infamous bri I am wondering.. how does one tell if it is him? He surely isn’t the only one ranting about Reaper..
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I mean I could be wrong, but it's a pretty distinctive writing "style." Mostly the lack of grammar and casual insertion of the word "metaphysics" into mundane matters.
Of course nowadays it's pretty en vogue to ditch capital letters and write everything in text-y shorthand. Still... *raised eyebrow*
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05-15-2021, 09:29 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: May 2006
Location: NA - North Augusta South Carolina
Posts: 4,294
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Man I hate the 21st century.
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05-17-2021, 10:39 AM
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Maybe not what you want to hear or believe but a tablet with a Core2Duo CPU (and a version made to throttle down even more than usual from heat) and trying to run an OS like Windows 10 is going to perform more like a phone than a computer.
I'm not suggesting to give up or anything! But you'll bury a device like that with a lot of plugins like instrument synths and samplers.
So... A DAW like Reaper but lighter weight to work properly on mobile devices, then! I don't know what to suggest or if there's any such thing available. I believe there are some mobile DAW apps and they'll have some stock plugins that let you get away with some flashy stuff. Reaper isn't offering anything like that right now. You'll still get stuff done with the tablet if you mind the limitations though. Some of the mobile apps might not be powerful like their computer app 'parents' but they are slick and efficient at the couple things they were made to do.
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05-18-2021, 02:32 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Munich
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DAW for mobile devices
Quote:
Originally Posted by serr
I believe there are some mobile DAW apps and they'll have some stock plugins
that let you get away with some flashy stuff.
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Steinberg Cubasis would be worth trying. Cubasis was specifically made for mobile devices
(iOS/Android) and comes with plugins from Steinberg and Waves.
https://new.steinberg.net/cubasis/
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05-23-2021, 09:40 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 395
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well im only human
i like complaining it makes me take action,...
so after going through
prefs and mouse settings again for the 15th time i think i have my mouse modifiers working in the arrange and either i had the problem or my old build did
at least with working on the arrange
which brings up the real issue
which i dont want to get into
because im not even reading this thread
reaper makes a fool out of me again; i was wrong!
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05-23-2021, 03:27 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 395
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so i just dumped my build erased my hd
and installed reaper and all fx as 64bit
the fx that wernt working work now
and everything seems a-ok
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05-23-2021, 10:34 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 2,905
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Hang on in there
I have just spend days, ( I am not mentioning all the crashes over two years )
Because I am old and because I had Pro tools and had to stop for crashes many times every day from my digidesign 002 rack.
I have washed the warrens of my mind and got rid of the blame game so when I was trudging through the fact my UAD-2 was not working I did not blame any of my kit.
Computer, card or reaper.
Thankfully in the end the computer a beautiful thing told me the card was the culprit.
Sometimes you just have to live a live in order to cope!
Friends are good too.
You learn to roll with the punches and read the manual when you do have trouble and learn how to interpret other peoples way of writing.
Steve
Last edited by grinder; 05-23-2021 at 10:41 PM.
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05-24-2021, 06:38 AM
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#28
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 395
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appreciate it,
im not the kind of person thats going to give up,
unfortunately with reaper theres a lack of info about what works and doesnt
why dont these guys publish their benchmark tests
or at least keeping track of what system designs are working well or not
unfortunately my struggle is just beginning as there is no light on the path to customization, im a l/t user and looking at the default is making my mind explode
anyway ive been doing this kind of thing forever and i have no patience
to these "reaper experts" who are attacking me for years
,..because i tend to be a little blunt about things
but i can do anything about forums problems
and theres no system to ajudicate information
for re disemination
ie,..the way reaper works is by organizing actions into workflows
but ppl dont talk about things that way
so you never know what your going to end up with from a global perspective
this is my 5th build and ill have to do it all by hand
while envisioning how its going to fit into a workflow without
causing unwanted behaviors for other macro systems and reapers limitations
irony being i could prob build 5 toolbars to do everything i need
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