Import Session Data ?

[tgowdy]

Hey.

I would like to be able to import session data ( like EDL, plugin and automation data etc... ) from one session file to another. In Pro Tools, this is a feature which can be very handy for organization and speed.
Is this possible at all?

Thanks,
Tim

[airon]

Only complete tracks can be copied AFAIK.

Items with their item-take automation data, possibly even their track automation data, can be copied from session to session.

An import function like that of Protools is not present.

You can load the other session in to a new project tab, when using the Open Project dialog though. In that, you'll find a checkbox for opening the project in a new tab.

Then copy/paste as necessary. The rest you'll have to test, since I don't try this. Anyone else have further information ?

[Runaway]

This is just an idea that if you are desperate enough it might help...

There is a feature in AATranslator to 'append' Audition (xml) sessions but it could (in a round about way) do this for Reaper sessions - I just tried it and it works.

Here's how you do it using AATranslator (download the demo and try it on 2 simple sessions):-
1. convert your 1st rpp to an Audition xml & save the output
2. convert your 2nd rpp to an Audition xml & save the output
3. Select File->Append Session
4. Select the 2 Audition xmls saved previously and press 'Generate'
5. Save the output (it will be an Audition xml)
6. Convert the generated Audition xml to a new Reaper RPP project file

Too easy :-)

I guess if there was some demand for this sort of thing I could simplify it and include the function for all daw formats.

Remember it was built specifically for Audition sessions and would normally only require steps 5 & 6.

Anyway you may get benefit out of it - just a thought....

[tgowdy]

Thanks for the help. The opening project in new tab works well. From there you can choose copy tracks to clipboard and fly those tracks into the other session. Very convenient.

The AA Translator also seems to be a good option especially for large sessions with precious routing data, though I don't have AA Translator yet. I will eventually have to buy it for OMF imports in to Reaper for video.
Cheers,
TG

[g8torcliff]

I don't know if this is what you mean, but Reaper will open an .EDL file.

File > Open Project You will find EDL supported there.

cliff

[Runaway]

Originally Posted by g8torcliff

I don't know if this is what you mean, but Reaper will open an .EDL file.
File > Open Project You will find EDL supported there.
cliff

While thats true Reaper's implementation of the EDL format is limited - no automation detail is read by Reaper. However, AATranslator will translate an EDL including envelopes into an RPP.

Again its whatever works best for your circumstances and like everyone else 'FREE' is one of my two favourite four letter words starting with 'F' :-)

So if an EDL is what you are after then that is the cheapest option.

[strunkdts]

+1 for an Import Data function ala every other DAW.(im being presumptous, I dont actaully know for a fact that every other DAW has it, but I believe REAPER would be better off with it).

[Runaway]

I'll +1 that too!

I love to see someone else in pain :-)

[g8torcliff]

Thanks Runaway...

This probably would be a good feature for the devs to look at expanding on because there are certainly a lot of Reaper users who came from other DAW's and therefore have loads of old projects they would like to convert to rpp. I know I do. I don't really go to the trouble though because, like you mention, the edl doesn't import with all of the info and who wants to start the mix all over? So, my old stuff just sits there.....looking at me......sad stuff....

Maybe this could be added as an official feature request....I'd give it my vote...

cliff

[musicbynumbers]

There's also track templates for reaper to reaper interchange

[AdamWathan]

Bump, what would be awesome is a feature like in PT HD where I can select a different Reaper session, see all it's tracks and stuff and say WHAT I want from those tracks and WHERE to put it. So I could copy an FX chain from a track in another session and override the FX chain on a specified track in my current session.

[Shan]

Originally Posted by tgowdy

Hey.

I would like to be able to import session data ( like EDL, plugin and automation data etc... ) from one session file to another. In Pro Tools, this is a feature which can be very handy for organization and speed.
Is this possible at all?

Thanks,
Tim

As mentioned by others above, Tabs is the best way to achieve this. FX chains and track templates are also a step above and beyond the PT import.

Shane

[musicbynumbers]

Originally Posted by AdamWathan

Bump, what would be awesome is a feature like in PT HD where I can select a different Reaper session, see all it's tracks and stuff and say WHAT I want from those tracks and WHERE to put it. So I could copy an FX chain from a track in another session and override the FX chain on a specified track in my current session.

The latest copy and paste feature built into sws extension gives you the option of choosing what goes where on copy and paste (using the snapshot copy and paste), you can even create new tracks instead of overwriting them.

It doesn't do track items though.

[plush2]

I agree with Shan, another menu (like in PT) is a complicated way of achieving what we already have. What could be easier for selecting exactly what one wants imported than to open the desired session in a tab and visually select exactly what one wants imported (tracks, fx, items, automation).

The massive drop down menu in PT with checkmarks indicating what will and won't be imported is a fine example of why having a separate database style window interface is actually worse. This "feature" primarily exists because PT can only have one session open at a time.

[skudge]

While I realise there are other ways to achieve the same thing, the way this is implemented in PT is very handy and one of the very few things I miss. A similar system would be an excellent addition to Reaper.

[cricket]

*Facepalm

AA3 is my other main DAW. Id save myself a lot of bullshit if I got on the train here. A session translator? Thatd be good.

[AdamWathan]

So you guys are saying there is a way in Reaper for me to take all the FX chains for all my tracks and apply them to corresponding tracks in a new session all at once just like I could in PT HD? I don't think that's possible is it? I don't want to copy one FX chain at a time, I just want to match up tracks from different sessions and load in the corresponding FX chains all in one batch. Would be very handy when I'm mixing since I deal with mostly metal music where my basic mix is the same on every song, so copying the settings over that way would be really easy.

[AdamWathan]

Just realized I can do that with snapshots? That's insane! Is there any proper snapshot documentation somewhere? I really have no idea what a "snapshot" even is and I am not understanding exactly what I'm doing. There are whole project snapshots and track snapshots individually or something? Since there's a separate snapshots window that you can only access via rightclicking on the TCP? Sorry if I'm really late to the party but this is all new to me and I don't understand any of it!

[musicbynumbers]

Originally Posted by cricket

*Facepalm

AA3 is my other main DAW. Id save myself a lot of bullshit if I got on the train here. A session translator? Thatd be good.

You also have this

http://www.aatranslator.com.au/

but reaper has many many things under it's hood for doing things like this but because they are sometimes 3rd party it can be hard to get documentation on them.

The sws website has some info
http://www.standingwaterstudios.com/snapshots.php

[jamesp]

Originally Posted by AdamWathan

So you guys are saying there is a way in Reaper for me to take all the FX chains for all my tracks and apply them to corresponding tracks in a new session all at once just like I could in PT HD?

Save the first session as a template and then use that template for subsequent tracks.

James.

[capncrockett]

This is a handy aspect of Pro Tools. Especially in my current scenario:

Recorded a whole session at the school studio in Pro Tools, but someone must have changed the session sample rate to 48Khz whilst the external clock remained at 44.1Khz. I am now trying to work on stuff at home in Reaper and I get playback and render about a half step too high. There is no way for me to import and resample without converting for the current reaper session. I found a solution in a (PT) forum, but it has to do with the import session data function.

So I +1 the import session data. That and the template system is really smooth.

Otherwise all I do is talk about how Reaper is so much better!

[hopi]

well AATranslater, as Runaway points out offers some serious methods... and if you have a lot to do, it's cheap at twice the price...

Tab's is another way, since you can select tracks and use normal cntrl + C to copy and then paste then into the session that is on another tab.. they paste with env's and with fx.

and Snapshots is yet another way, with various sessions open in tabs...

There is a Groove 3 tutorial about the magic powers of reaper's snapshot system.... don't recall the name but bet you can find it.

there might be yet another way but I'll leave that out for the moment until I can dbl check it.

[hopi]

OK here's the other way:

first look and read Dan's /newinst method here:

http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.p...hlight=newinst

so now make a second portable install of reaper...

and do that /newinst addition to it's shortcut... AND set it's audio device to something other than asio... [wasapi perhaps]

OK so you can now have two instances of reaper open and can see both projects at the same time [if you have dual monitors]

then you can select trks from one, and use normal copy and paste to the other... and it brings the fx and env's with the paste.

[mpl]

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=233358