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Old 08-26-2021, 05:22 PM   #1
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Anyone every have extremely slow load times when loading a plugin from Plugin Alliance in Reaper (Windows 10)?

I've used some of their plugins for years without issue, but recently I have been having problems (opening a project hangs if a PA plugin has been used, adding a new instance of a PA plugin freezes Reaper for a few minutes).

I've given PA support details of the issue and tried different methods of authorizing their plugins, but to no avail.

They claim this is a known issue, but they can't reproduce it on their end and don't have a solution.

The only workarounds that help are:

a) running Reaper as an administrator (shouldn't have to do this and it also means I can't drag and drop files into Reaper)

b) Turning off my computer's internet connection while loading a new project or adding a new PA plugin instance (also not idea, as how am I supposed to get distracted by Youtube videos when I should be mixing?)

Has anyone else run into this issue?

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Old 11-30-2021, 04:15 AM   #2
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YES?! Im running into this as well now did you manage to fix this at all? The same is happening for waves plugins!
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Old 11-30-2021, 05:53 AM   #3
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It sounds like a firewall issue perhaps? Try downloading an offline license, PA offline is commendably quick and easy and authorises all your plugins in one go. In a DAW I find it is best not to have plugins calling home in any case as that is a potential source of dpc latency, especially if your firewall is kicking in.
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Old 11-30-2021, 07:27 AM   #4
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Tried an offline license but to no avail, I am on a work PC so it could be to do with IT restriction issues. Super frustrating
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Old 11-30-2021, 08:06 AM   #5
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That's strange - so it's still trying to access the internet even with the offline licence? I use offline licences and PA definitely doesn't make connection attempts. Did you uninstall fully before reinstalling with the offline licence?
I would also check if it's an antivirus flagging the files? Doesn't happen with Windows Defender but if you have some outre corporate AV it could well cause this issue, and I guess it'll be difficult for you to exclude your plugins, samples and REAPER folder from real-time scanning (which is well worth always doing). Portable install could be worth trying if you're in a locked down system?
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Old 11-30-2021, 08:35 AM   #6
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It seems so, I've deleted everything to do with PA plugs that I could see, they don't seem to have a great uninstall method at all. There support "Delete everything in the folders". I've got a ticket in with our IT department, to add exceptions but we'll just have to see. Its happening on Waves plugins aswell, hence why I think its a anti virus issue as they use propriety online authentication
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Old 11-30-2021, 10:38 AM   #7
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I had two support threads with PA where I tried everything, including offline registration. I've also tested with disabling Windows Defender to no avail (personal computer with no corporate firewall/anti-virus).

In the end they said "This is a known issue on some systems for which we haven't found the cause yet".

Basically, all I can do is either run Reaper as an admin or toggle wifi off when loading PA plugins (or load a project and go get a coffee while it hangs for a while).

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YES?! Im running into this as well now did you manage to fix this at all? The same is happening for waves plugins!
I don't have any Waves plugins, so I can't verify if it's the same issue. No fix yet though, unfortunately!
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Old 01-02-2022, 06:36 PM   #8
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For what's it worth, this seems to be fixed now (I haven't made any changes on my end, but maybe they figured something out on the authorization side?).
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Old 01-03-2022, 02:24 AM   #9
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Glad to hear it is working now, although it would be good to know what solved it.

I haven't had this issue with Plugin Alliance but I am having this issue with Waves.
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Old 01-03-2022, 08:03 AM   #10
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i have this problems with SSD5 and amplitube
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Old 01-26-2022, 08:09 PM   #11
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Can't open my Plugin Alliance with Reaper on my MAC.try everything
and can't open it. Anybody can help.

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Old 01-26-2022, 11:24 PM   #12
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Softube plugins are ridiculously slow on my machine... Loading and unloading.
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