Control Surface Integration (CSI) Technical Feature Discussion - Page 256

poetnprophet · 09-24-2020, 07:04 PM

hey everyone, I'm trying to use the Encoder modifiers found here: https://github.com/malcolmgroves/rea.../wiki/Encoders

this is for the C4, and in particular for ReaGate. I'm basically copying and pasting whats in the guide into the Rotary line for the Zon FX file. Nothing changes, wondering if it's just me or what.

Also, anyone know how to override the pegged positions for ReaInsert? At unity the controller (Xtouch mini) is pegged and won't go any further. It's the only one I've found like that. Strange huh?

Funkybot · 09-24-2020, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poetnprophet

hey everyone, I'm trying to use the Encoder modifiers found here: https://github.com/malcolmgroves/rea.../wiki/Encoders

this is for the C4, and in particular for ReaGate. I'm basically copying and pasting whats in the guide into the Rotary line for the Zon FX file. Nothing changes, wondering if it's just me or what.

Also, anyone know how to override the pegged positions for ReaInsert? At unity the controller (Xtouch mini) is pegged and won't go any further. It's the only one I've found like that. Strange huh?

I'm pretty good with the encoders. What's your .mst look like for one of the encoders, and what's the zone look like, and what exactly are you trying to do? Would help to see.

poetnprophet · 09-24-2020, 09:28 PM

Here's some of my MST for the encoders. I'm trying to setup ReaGate to control threshold, it's way down at -50 and each increment with the C4 now is like 10db until about -15db on that parameter. So I thought I'd be able to modify the accelerator and/or the tickcounts..

Widget RotaryA1
Encoder b0 00 7f
FB_Encoder b0 00 7f
WidgetEnd
/
Widget RotaryA2
Encoder b0 01 7f
FB_Encoder b0 01 7f
WidgetEnd
/
Widget RotaryA3
Encoder b0 02 7f
FB_Encoder b0 02 7f
WidgetEnd
/
Widget RotaryA4
Encoder b0 03 7f
FB_Encoder b0 03 7f
WidgetEnd

Here is the zone for ReaGate:
Zone "VST: ReaGate (Cockos)"

SelectedTrackNavigator

DisplayUpperB1 FXParamNameDisplay 0 "G-Thr"
DisplayLowerB1 FXParamValueDisplay 0
RotaryB1 FXParam 0
Toggle+RotaryPushB1 FXParam 18

DisplayUpperB2 FXParamNameDisplay 2 "G-Rel"
DisplayLowerB2 FXParamValueDisplay 2
RotaryB2 FXParam 2
/ Toggle+RotaryPushB2 FXParam

ZoneEnd

B4Lasers · 09-25-2020, 01:33 AM

Every-time I Try TO Select Eucon in the OSC control surface list it crashes no log or anything...im on IMac Catalina 10.15.6 Reaper V 6.14 Latest Eucon Build From Avid Im trying to set up a single Artist Mix.. If I Select Eucon first And Then CSI second It things connect but nothing seems to be connected to the daw if i select CSI first and Eucon second it crashes

MixMonkey · 09-25-2020, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poetnprophet

Here's some of my MST for the encoders. I'm trying to setup ReaGate to control threshold, it's way down at -50 and each increment with the C4 now is like 10db until about -15db on that parameter. So I thought I'd be able to modify the accelerator and/or the tickcounts..

Widget RotaryA1
Encoder b0 00 7f
FB_Encoder b0 00 7f
WidgetEnd
/
Widget RotaryA2
Encoder b0 01 7f
FB_Encoder b0 01 7f
WidgetEnd
/
Widget RotaryA3
Encoder b0 02 7f
FB_Encoder b0 02 7f
WidgetEnd
/
Widget RotaryA4
Encoder b0 03 7f
FB_Encoder b0 03 7f
WidgetEnd

Here is the zone for ReaGate:
Zone "VST: ReaGate (Cockos)"

SelectedTrackNavigator

DisplayUpperB1 FXParamNameDisplay 0 "G-Thr"
DisplayLowerB1 FXParamValueDisplay 0
RotaryB1 FXParam 0
Toggle+RotaryPushB1 FXParam 18

DisplayUpperB2 FXParamNameDisplay 2 "G-Rel"
DisplayLowerB2 FXParamValueDisplay 2
RotaryB2 FXParam 2
/ Toggle+RotaryPushB2 FXParam

ZoneEnd

Hi poetnprophet, hope you're well

Modify your .mst to be of the form:

Code:

Widget RotaryA1
	Encoder b0 00 7f [ > 01 04 08 0C 0f < 41 44 48 4c 4f ]
	FB_Encoder b0 00 7f
WidgetEnd

This adds the 5 values in each direction that the C4 sends out as you turn it faster.

Try something like this on the FX.zon:

Code:

DisplayUpperB1 FXParamNameDisplay "0" "G-Thr"
DisplayLowerB1 FXParamValueDisplay "0" 
RotaryB1 FXParam "0" [ (0.001,0.005,0.025,0.05,0.1) ]
Toggle+RotaryPushB1 FXParam 18

This means that when you're turning the control at the slowest rate the parameter will change by 0.001, at the next rate 0.005 and so on until the value is changing by 0.1 at the fastest rate.

If the control scaling is as poor in Reagate as it is in Reacomp, you'll probably have a lot of tweaking of the .zon acceleration values to get the feel you want.

kevrose · 09-25-2020, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMonkey

Post your MCU.zon and we can take a look

If you've recently updated your CSI version, things may need to be changed in the MCU.zon file.

Thanks. Here you go:

Zone Home
OnTrackSelection MapSelectedTrackSendsToWidgets
IncludedZones
"Buttons|"
"Channel|1-8"
"MasterChannel|"
IncludedZonesEnd
ZoneEnd

Zone "Buttons|"
Send ToggleMapSelectedTrackSends
Track ToggleMapSelectedTrackFXMenu
Pan ToggleMapSelectedTrackFX
ChannelLeft TrackBank "-1"
ChannelRight TrackBank "1"
BankLeft TrackBank "-8"
BankRight TrackBank "8"
Rewind Rewind
FastForward FastForward
Stop Stop
Play Play
Record Record
F1 NextPage

smpteBeats CycleTimeDisplayModes
TimeDisplay TimeDisplay

Read TrackAutoMode "1"
Write TrackAutoMode "3"
Trim TrackAutoMode "0"
Touch TrackAutoMode "2"
Latch TrackAutoMode "4"
Group Reaper "42023"

Shift+Read GlobalAutoMode "1"
Shift+Write GlobalAutoMode "3"
Shift+Trim GlobalAutoMode "0"
Shift+Touch GlobalAutoMode "2"
Shift+Latch GlobalAutoMode "4"
Shift+Group Reaper "42024"

Save Reaper "40026"
Shift+Save Reaper "40022"

Undo Reaper "40029"
Shift+Undo Reaper "40030"

Shift Shift
Option Option
Control Control
Alt Alt

Marker Reaper "40172"
Shift+Marker Reaper "40157"
Option+Marker Reaper "40174"

Nudge Reaper "40173"
Cycle CycleTimeline
Click Reaper "40364"
ZoneEnd

Zone "Channel|"
TrackNavigator
DisplayUpper| TrackNameDisplay
DisplayLower| TrackPanDisplay
TrackTouch+DisplayLower| TrackVolumeDisplay
RotaryPush| GoZone PanWidth|
Rotary| TrackPan "0"
RecordArm| TrackRecordArm
Solo| TrackSolo
Mute| TrackMute
Select| TrackUniqueSelect
Shift+Select| TrackRangeSelect
Control+Select| TrackSelect
Shift+Control+Select| TogglePin
Option+Select| TrackFolderDive
Fader| TrackVolume
FaderTouch| TrackTouch
ZoneEnd

Zone "MasterChannel|"
MasterTrackNavigator
MasterFader TrackVolume
zoneEnd

Zone "Pan|1-8"
TrackNavigator
Rotary| TrackPan "0"
RotaryPush| GoZone PanWidth|
ZoneEnd

Zone "PanWidth|1-8"
TrackNavigator
Rotary| TrackPanWidth "1"
RotaryPush| GoZone Pan|
ZoneEnd

Zone "Send|1-8"
SelectedTrackNavigator
DisplayUpper| TrackSendNameDisplay
TrackTouch+DisplayUpper| TrackSendVolumeDisplay
Mute| TrackSendMute
Fader| TrackSendVolume
TrackTouch+Fader| TrackSendVolume
FaderTouch| TrackTouch
ZoneEnd

Zone "FXMenu|1-4"
SelectedTrackNavigator
DisplayUpper| FXNameDisplay |
RotaryPush| GoFXSlot |
ZoneEnd

kevrose · 09-25-2020, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMonkey

I've attached some C4/Soundtoys zones for you.

That's great, thank you! Will hopefully have a study of them, read the instructions and get cracking on creating some new ones this weekend.

conorg · 09-25-2020, 04:44 AM

OK I have put a video together to demonstrate the issues I am having with CSI. I have also attached my CSI.ini, mst, zon files and also the touchosc project file I am using.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mjo623sdJc

As I said I have been able to build CSI from the github source and can insert breakpoints for debugging so if there's any further troubleshooting I can do let me know. I was very excited when I first saw what CSI was capable of, but these are real show-stopper problems so unfortunately not usable for me in its current state.

Quote:

Originally Posted by conorg

I did think of that, but even in a project with two tracks where I can switch between them, the VST won't respond until I remove it and add it in again.

I'll maybe try creating a video to demonstrate the behaviour I am seeing.

MixMonkey · 09-25-2020, 04:47 AM

Try capitalizing the z on zoneEnd:

Code:

Zone "MasterChannel|"
	MasterTrackNavigator
	MasterFader 	TrackVolume
ZoneEnd

You could also add:

Code:

TrackTouch+MasterFader  TrackVolume
MasterFaderTouch  TrackTouch

and maybe:

Code:

    Control+MasterFader                 FocusedFXParam
    Control+TrackTouch+MasterFader      FocusedFXParam
    Control+MasterFaderTouch            TrackTouch

...lets you hold down Control to use the MasterFader as a fine control for the last touched FX parameter.

MixMonkey · 09-25-2020, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conorg

OK I have put a video together to demonstrate the issues I am having with CSI. I have also attached my CSI.ini, mst, zon files and also the touchosc project file I am using.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mjo623sdJc

As I said I have been able to build CSI from the github source and can insert breakpoints for debugging so if there's any further troubleshooting I can do let me know. I was very excited when I first saw what CSI was capable of, but these are real show-stopper problems so unfortunately not usable for me in its current state.

I don't think you've quite grasped the way OSC works in CSI. It isn't necessary to use the ControlMIDI capabilities in TouchOSC, CSI links directly.

I've adapted your files for a true OSC setup and it's working with the Lokomotiv VST here without issues.

You don't need a .mst file, you need a .ost file. In the .touchosc file I've switched off all the MIDI and altered the object names so they match the .ost, so you'll need to reload that to your iPad.

In the CSI prefs, delete the iPad as a MIDI device and add it back as an OSC device. You'll need to know the IP address of the iPad on your network and it's usual to assign port 8000 to receive and port 9000 to send in CSI (and the reverse in TouchOSC on the iPad)

My CSI prefs for iPad look like this, your IP will be different but the rest should be the same.

Try using the files I've attached and see if you can get them to work. If they do, you can pull them apart and see how the OSC setup works. If you have problems, ask away and we'll try and troubleshoot it

Funkybot · 09-25-2020, 08:14 AM

MixMonkey is on fire!

kevrose · 09-25-2020, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMonkey

Try capitalizing the z on zoneEnd:

Code:

Zone "MasterChannel|"
	MasterTrackNavigator
	MasterFader 	TrackVolume
ZoneEnd

You could also add:

Code:

TrackTouch+MasterFader  TrackVolume
MasterFaderTouch  TrackTouch

and maybe:

Code:

    Control+MasterFader                 FocusedFXParam
    Control+TrackTouch+MasterFader      FocusedFXParam
    Control+MasterFaderTouch            TrackTouch

...lets you hold down Control to use the MasterFader as a fine control for the last touched FX parameter.

Tried this but no change...

MixMonkey · 09-25-2020, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevrose

Tried this but no change...

Can you post your .mst please?

kevrose · 09-25-2020, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMonkey

Can you post your .mst please?

The forum won't let me attach it so here you go:

Widget Track
Press 90 28 7f
FB_TwoState 90 28 7f 90 28 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Send
Press 90 29 7f
FB_TwoState 90 29 7f 90 29 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Pan
Press 90 2a 7f
FB_TwoState 90 2a 7f 90 2a 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Plugin
Press 90 2b 7f
FB_TwoState 90 2b 7f 90 2b 00
WidgetEnd

Widget EQ
Press 90 2c 7f
FB_TwoState 90 2c 7f 90 2c 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Instrument
Press 90 2d 7f
FB_TwoState 90 2d 7f 90 2d 00
WidgetEnd

Widget BankLeft
Press 90 2E 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget BankRight
Press 90 2F 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget ChannelLeft
Press 90 30 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget ChannelRight
Press 90 31 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Flip
Press 90 32 7f
FB_TwoState 90 32 7f 90 32 00
WidgetEnd

Widget GlobalView
Press 90 33 7f
FB_TwoState 90 33 7f 90 33 00
WidgetEnd

Widget nameValue
Press 90 34 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget smpteBeats
Press 90 35 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget TimeDisplay
FB_MCUTimeDisplay
WidgetEnd

Widget F1
Press 90 36 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget F2
Press 90 37 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget F3
Press 90 38 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget F4
Press 90 39 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget F5
Press 90 3a 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget F6
Press 90 3b 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget F7
Press 90 3c 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget F8
Press 90 3d 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget MidiTracks
Press 90 3E 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Inputs
Press 90 3F 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget AudioTracks
Press 90 40 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget AudioInstrument
Press 90 41 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Aux
Press 90 42 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Busses
Press 90 43 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Outputs
Press 90 44 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget User
Press 90 45 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Shift
Press 90 46 7f 90 46 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Option
Press 90 47 7f 90 47 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Control
Press 90 48 7f 90 48 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Alt
Press 90 49 7f 90 49 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Read
Press 90 4a 7f
FB_TwoState 90 4a 7f 90 4a 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Write
Press 90 4b 7f
FB_TwoState 90 4b 7f 90 4b 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Trim
Press 90 4c 7f
FB_TwoState 90 4c 7f 90 4c 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Touch
Press 90 4d 7f
FB_TwoState 90 4d 7f 90 4d 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Latch
Press 90 4e 7f
FB_TwoState 90 4e 7f 90 4e 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Group
Press 90 4f 7f
FB_TwoState 90 4f 7f 90 4f 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Save
Press 90 50 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Undo
Press 90 51 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Cancel
Press 90 52 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Enter
Press 90 53 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Marker
Press 90 54 7f
FB_TwoState 90 54 7f 90 54 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Nudge
Press 90 55 7f
FB_TwoState 90 55 7f 90 55 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Cycle
Press 90 56 7f
FB_TwoState 90 56 7f 90 56 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Drop
Press 90 57 7f
FB_TwoState 90 57 7f 90 57 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Replace
Press 90 58 7f
FB_TwoState 90 58 7f 90 58 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Click
Press 90 59 7f
FB_TwoState 90 59 7f 90 59 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Solo
Press 90 5a 7f
FB_TwoState 90 5a 7f 90 5a 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Rewind
Press 90 5b 7f
FB_TwoState 90 5b 7f 90 5b 00
WidgetEnd

Widget FastForward
Press 90 5c 7f
FB_TwoState 90 5c 7f 90 5c 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Stop
Press 90 5d 7f
FB_TwoState 90 5d 7f 90 5d 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Play
Press 90 5e 7f
FB_TwoState 90 5e 7f 90 5e 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Record
Press 90 5f 7f
FB_TwoState 90 5f 7f 90 5f 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Up
Press 90 60 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Down
Press 90 61 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Left
Press 90 62 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Right
Press 90 63 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Zoom
Press 90 64 7f 90 64 00
FB_TwoState 90 64 7f 90 64 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Scrub
Press 90 65 7f 90 65 00
FB_TwoState 90 65 7f 90 65 00
WidgetEnd

Widget JogWheelRotary
Encoder b0 3c 7f
FB_Encoder b0 3c 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget MasterFader
Fader14Bit e8 7f 7f
FB_Fader14Bit e8 7f 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget VUMeter1
FB_MCUVUMeter 0
WidgetEnd

Widget VUMeter2
FB_MCUVUMeter 1
WidgetEnd

Widget VUMeter3
FB_MCUVUMeter 2
WidgetEnd

Widget VUMeter4
FB_MCUVUMeter 3
WidgetEnd

Widget VUMeter5
FB_MCUVUMeter 4
WidgetEnd

Widget VUMeter6
FB_MCUVUMeter 5
WidgetEnd

Widget VUMeter7
FB_MCUVUMeter 6
WidgetEnd

Widget VUMeter8
FB_MCUVUMeter 7
WidgetEnd

Widget DisplayUpper1
FB_MCUDisplayUpper 0
WidgetEnd

Widget DisplayUpper2
FB_MCUDisplayUpper 1
WidgetEnd

Widget DisplayUpper3
FB_MCUDisplayUpper 2
WidgetEnd

Widget DisplayUpper4
FB_MCUDisplayUpper 3
WidgetEnd

Widget DisplayUpper5
FB_MCUDisplayUpper 4
WidgetEnd

Widget DisplayUpper6
FB_MCUDisplayUpper 5
WidgetEnd

Widget DisplayUpper7
FB_MCUDisplayUpper 6
WidgetEnd

Widget DisplayUpper8
FB_MCUDisplayUpper 7
WidgetEnd

Widget DisplayLower1
FB_MCUDisplayLower 0
WidgetEnd

Widget DisplayLower2
FB_MCUDisplayLower 1
WidgetEnd

Widget DisplayLower3
FB_MCUDisplayLower 2
WidgetEnd

Widget DisplayLower4
FB_MCUDisplayLower 3
WidgetEnd

Widget DisplayLower5
FB_MCUDisplayLower 4
WidgetEnd

Widget DisplayLower6
FB_MCUDisplayLower 5
WidgetEnd

Widget DisplayLower7
FB_MCUDisplayLower 6
WidgetEnd

Widget DisplayLower8
FB_MCUDisplayLower 7
WidgetEnd

Widget Fader1
Fader14Bit e0 7f 7f
FB_Fader14Bit e0 7f 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Fader2
Fader14Bit e1 7f 7f
FB_Fader14Bit e1 7f 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Fader3
Fader14Bit e2 7f 7f
FB_Fader14Bit e2 7f 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Fader4
Fader14Bit e3 7f 7f
FB_Fader14Bit e3 7f 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Fader5
Fader14Bit e4 7f 7f
FB_Fader14Bit e4 7f 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Fader6
Fader14Bit e5 7f 7f
FB_Fader14Bit e5 7f 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Fader7
Fader14Bit e6 7f 7f
FB_Fader14Bit e6 7f 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Fader8
Fader14Bit e7 7f 7f
FB_Fader14Bit e7 7f 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget FaderTouch1
Press 90 68 7f 90 68 00
WidgetEnd

Widget FaderTouch2
Press 90 69 7f 90 69 00
WidgetEnd

Widget FaderTouch3
Press 90 6a 7f 90 6a 00
WidgetEnd

Widget FaderTouch4
Press 90 6b 7f 90 6b 00
WidgetEnd

Widget FaderTouch5
Press 90 6c 7f 90 6c 00
WidgetEnd

Widget FaderTouch6
Press 90 6d 7f 90 6d 00
WidgetEnd

Widget FaderTouch7
Press 90 6e 7f 90 6e 00
WidgetEnd

Widget FaderTouch8
Press 90 6f 7f 90 6f 00
WidgetEnd

Widget RotaryPush1
Press 90 20 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget RotaryPush2
Press 90 21 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget RotaryPush3
Press 90 22 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget RotaryPush4
Press 90 23 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget RotaryPush5
Press 90 24 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget RotaryPush6
Press 90 25 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget RotaryPush7
Press 90 26 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget RotaryPush8
Press 90 27 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Rotary1
Encoder b0 10 7f
FB_Encoder b0 10 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Rotary2
Encoder b0 11 7f
FB_Encoder b0 11 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Rotary3
Encoder b0 12 7f
FB_Encoder b0 12 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Rotary4
Encoder b0 13 7f
FB_Encoder b0 13 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Rotary5
Encoder b0 14 7f
FB_Encoder b0 14 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Rotary6
Encoder b0 15 7f
FB_Encoder b0 15 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Rotary7
Encoder b0 16 7f
FB_Encoder b0 16 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget Rotary8
Encoder b0 17 7f
FB_Encoder b0 17 7f
WidgetEnd

Widget RecordArm1
Press 90 00 7f
FB_TwoState 90 00 7f 90 00 00
WidgetEnd

Widget RecordArm2
Press 90 01 7f
FB_TwoState 90 01 7f 90 01 00
WidgetEnd

Widget RecordArm3
Press 90 02 7f
FB_TwoState 90 02 7f 90 02 00
WidgetEnd

Widget RecordArm4
Press 90 03 7f
FB_TwoState 90 03 7f 90 03 00
WidgetEnd

Widget RecordArm5
Press 90 04 7f
FB_TwoState 90 04 7f 90 04 00
WidgetEnd

Widget RecordArm6
Press 90 05 7f
FB_TwoState 90 05 7f 90 05 00
WidgetEnd

Widget RecordArm7
Press 90 06 7f
FB_TwoState 90 06 7f 90 06 00
WidgetEnd

Widget RecordArm8
Press 90 07 7f
FB_TwoState 90 07 7f 90 07 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Solo1
Press 90 08 7f
FB_TwoState 90 08 7f 90 08 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Solo2
Press 90 09 7f
FB_TwoState 90 09 7f 90 09 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Solo3
Press 90 0a 7f
FB_TwoState 90 0a 7f 90 0a 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Solo4
Press 90 0b 7f
FB_TwoState 90 0b 7f 90 0b 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Solo5
Press 90 0c 7f
FB_TwoState 90 0c 7f 90 0c 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Solo6
Press 90 0d 7f
FB_TwoState 90 0d 7f 90 0d 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Solo7
Press 90 0e 7f
FB_TwoState 90 0e 7f 90 0e 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Solo8
Press 90 0f 7f
FB_TwoState 90 0f 7f 90 0f 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Mute1
Press 90 10 7f
FB_TwoState 90 10 7f 90 10 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Mute2
Press 90 11 7f
FB_TwoState 90 11 7f 90 11 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Mute3
Press 90 12 7f
FB_TwoState 90 12 7f 90 12 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Mute4
Press 90 13 7f
FB_TwoState 90 13 7f 90 13 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Mute5
Press 90 14 7f
FB_TwoState 90 14 7f 90 14 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Mute6
Press 90 15 7f
FB_TwoState 90 15 7f 90 15 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Mute7
Press 90 16 7f
FB_TwoState 90 16 7f 90 16 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Mute8
Press 90 17 7f
FB_TwoState 90 17 7f 90 17 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Select1
Press 90 18 7f
FB_TwoState 90 18 7f 90 18 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Select2
Press 90 19 7f
FB_TwoState 90 19 7f 90 19 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Select3
Press 90 1a 7f
FB_TwoState 90 1a 7f 90 1a 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Select4
Press 90 1b 7f
FB_TwoState 90 1b 7f 90 1b 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Select5
Press 90 1c 7f
FB_TwoState 90 1c 7f 90 1c 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Select6
Press 90 1d 7f
FB_TwoState 90 1d 7f 90 1d 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Select7
Press 90 1e 7f
FB_TwoState 90 1e 7f 90 1e 00
WidgetEnd

Widget Select8
Press 90 1f 7f
FB_TwoState 90 1f 7f 90 1f 00
WidgetEnd

MixMonkey · 09-25-2020, 08:58 AM

Can't see anything wrong there. The only difference seems to be that you called your master Zone "MasterChannel" and mine is called "MasterTrack"

I've attached my MCU.zon and MCU.mst. Swap them with yours and see if the master fader works (it's working here)

siniarch · 09-25-2020, 09:06 AM

Hi,
Has anyone worked on the Presonus ATOM? I'm going to be working on some sound FXs and needed some drum pads but wanted to utilize the rest of the unit to control Reaper.

Just wondering if someone has an initial MST and ZON file that I can go off of. I saw that Kenm figured out how to use the ATOM outside of CSI so he can have it work both as a control surface and as a Midi Instrument at the same time. Perhaps I need to do the same to use it as I want, but didn't want to spend too much time to set this up initially. Just need to see if this can trigger a VST pluging I have for creating footsteps.

Thanks.

kevrose · 09-25-2020, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMonkey

Can't see anything wrong there. The only difference seems to be that you called your master Zone "MasterChannel" and mine is called "MasterTrack"

I've attached my MCU.zon and MCU.mst. Swap them with yours and see if the master fader works (it's working here)

No joy I'm afraid.

Have just tried Ableton and the master fader works, so that rules out a hardware issue.

Thanks for your help on this. Any other files I should check?

MixMonkey · 09-25-2020, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevrose

No joy I'm afraid.

Have just tried Ableton and the master fader works, so that rules out a hardware issue.

Thanks for your help on this. Any other files I should check?

What version of CSI are you using? (look at the date of .dylib/.dll)

conorg · 09-25-2020, 09:33 AM

Thanks for the speedy reply MixMonkey!

The reason I am using the MIDI/mst approach is to allow me to connect the iPad via USB for improved latency which is important when controlling a VST synth in real time. I don't believe pure OSC supports a hard wired connection?

I did encounter similar issues on my laptop which was connected via proper OSC over wifi (since the USB port doesn't work!) but I will try again with your files and report back.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMonkey

I don't think you've quite grasped the way OSC works in CSI. It isn't necessary to use the ControlMIDI capabilities in TouchOSC, CSI links directly.

MixMonkey · 09-25-2020, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conorg

Thanks for the speedy reply MixMonkey!

The reason I am using the MIDI/mst approach is to allow me to connect the iPad via USB for improved latency which is important when controlling a VST synth in real time. I don't believe pure OSC supports a hard wired connection?

I did encounter similar issues on my laptop which was connected via proper OSC over wifi (since the USB port doesn't work!) but I will try again with your files and report back.

Ah, I see. I'm certainly not an OSC expert (I only just got a hand-me-down ipad) How bad is the latency over wifi?

Also, I've just noticed that a couple of controls aren't working in the files I posted (OSCNoise is one) I'm trying to track down the issue (and hopefully learn a bit more about the CSI/OSC ensemble)

B4Lasers · 09-25-2020, 10:05 AM

Trying to setup Artist Mix, I followed the instructions on Github..But every time I select Eucon the second time Reaper Crashes Video included Below

video
https://drive.google.com/file/d/11bD...ew?usp=sharing

MixMonkey · 09-25-2020, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B4Lasers

Trying to setup Artist Mix, I followed the instructions on Github..But every time I select Eucon the second time Reaper Crashes Video included Below

video
https://drive.google.com/file/d/11bD...ew?usp=sharing

Sorry, can't help you with that. Maybe a Eucon user can sort you out.

B4Lasers · 09-25-2020, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMonkey

Sorry, can't help you with that. Maybe a Eucon user can sort you out.

Any Eucon users out there??

conorg · 09-25-2020, 10:32 AM

OSCNoise was also broken on my original MIDI version, haven't tracked down the issue yet, do let me know if you work it out!

I tried your files and as expected exactly the same issue:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WstdCf9yKzw

Apologies for the quick and wobbly video this time, but it does demonstrate that saving a working project and reloading does not work. I need to remove the instrument and re-insert. It seems to be the action of inserting the instrument which triggers the CSI stuff to start working. So if the instrument is never inserted on the active track (e.g. loading from project, inserting to non-active track) nothing happens.

I have tried two different computers, have used wired MIDI and wifi OSC, I have also tried Lemur instead of TouchOSC on the iPad, and also a hardware controller just to rule out the iPad being the issue. I have used other VST instruments and effects and the behaviour is always the same.

(Next on the troubleshooting list is to try it on a Windows machine)

Wifi latency I found to be intermittently problematic, it is usable some of the time but lags occasionally. I have read that setting up an ad hoc wifi network helps but haven't tried this yet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMonkey

Ah, I see. I'm certainly not an OSC expert (I only just got a hand-me-down ipad) How bad is the latency over wifi?

Also, I've just noticed that a couple of controls aren't working in the files I posted (OSCNoise is one) I'm trying to track down the issue (and hopefully learn a bit more about the CSI/OSC ensemble)

kevrose · 09-25-2020, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMonkey

What version of CSI are you using? (look at the date of .dylib/.dll)

5 May 2020. just downloaded it again and it's the same date, so I presume I'm using the latest version?

Funkybot · 09-25-2020, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B4Lasers

Any Eucon users out there??

It looks like you're doing things right, but try flipping the order. Add the Eucon surface in Reaper's preferences first, then open CSI preferences and add Eucon. Does that help?

I know on Windows doing it one way works, and the other way crashes, but it's been a while.

MixMonkey · 09-25-2020, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conorg

I tried your files and as expected exactly the same issue:

Sorry chap, but thats not what I get here. After I reload the project, I have to re-select the track with the synth on it but after doing that it relinks fine.

MixMonkey · 09-25-2020, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevrose

5 May 2020. just downloaded it again and it's the same date, so I presume I'm using the latest version?

Give this version a try:

https://stash.reaper.fm/40308/CSI%20beta-30.zip

Just swap the .dylib/.dll

siniarch · 09-25-2020, 11:28 AM

Hey guys,

I've been thinking of how awesome it would be if we had a website with all the configuration files for the different surfaces for CSI.

It could have descriptions, and even link back to specific posts to this thread regarding anything specific for it.

It would also have the creator's name and if they wished, an email to contact them.

I can maintain this site if people like and host the files on my server, but if people don't feel comfortable with that, they can also host the files themselves, and I can link to them as well.

Eventually, we can also add the FX mappings available for each surface as well.

I created a quick WIX site that shows the intent. Let me know if you guys think this is a good idea and people think it's worth pursuing.

https://siniarch.wixsite.com/csiconfigfiles

Funkybot · 09-25-2020, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siniarch

Hey guys,

I've been thinking of how awesome it would be if we had a website with all the configuration files for the different surfaces for CSI.

It could have descriptions, and even link back to specific posts to this thread regarding anything specific for it.

It would also have the creator's name and if they wished, an email to contact them.

I can maintain this site if people like and host the files on my server, but if people don't feel comfortable with that, they can also host the files themselves, and I can link to them as well.

Eventually, we can also add the FX mappings available for each surface as well.

I created a quick WIX site that shows the intent. Let me know if you guys think this is a good idea and people think it's worth pursuing.

https://siniarch.wixsite.com/csiconfigfiles

I'm all for it! I've been keeping some links I found in a Google Doc for future reference in case we wanted to start including some in the Wiki:

FaderPort v2 (by todoublez):
https://forum.cockos.com/attachment....8&d=1597345193

FaderPort v2 (by Airon)
https://stash.reaper.fm/v/38582/CSI_FPv2.zip

FaderPort 16 (Studio One) by Airon:
https://stash.reaper.fm/v/38565/CSI_..._StudioOne.ZIP

Behringer X-Touch and Extender (MikeOssarium):
https://stash.reaper.fm/v/38803/CSI_...tender_V02.zip

Behringer X-Touch Mini:
https://stash.reaper.fm/v/36962/CSI_X-TouchMini.zip

CSI Icon Nano (WaveTrans):
https://stash.reaper.fm/v/38686/CSI_IconNano_2_0.zip

Allan & Heath GS-R24M (by panevalentin)
https://stash.reaper.fm/v/38145/Alle...up%20files.zip

Console1 Universal Control (by Wonder6oy):
https://stash.reaper.fm/v/36963/CSI%...%20Control.zip

Behringer BCR/BCF (by MixMonkey):
https://stash.reaper.fm/v/35641/BCR%2BBCF2000CSI.zip

MIDI Fighter Twister (by Funkybot):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lfikysmeco...0v1-5.zip?dl=0

Behringer X-Touch One (by Funkbyot):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/21f9z72djk...evice.zip?dl=0

siniarch · 09-25-2020, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funkybot

I'm all for it! I've been keeping some links I found in a Google Doc for future reference in case we wanted to start including some in the Wiki:

FaderPort v2 (by todoublez):
https://forum.cockos.com/attachment....8&d=1597345193

FaderPort v2 (by Airon)
https://stash.reaper.fm/v/38582/CSI_FPv2.zip

FaderPort 16 (Studio One) by Airon:
https://stash.reaper.fm/v/38565/CSI_..._StudioOne.ZIP

Behringer X-Touch and Extender (MikeOssarium):
https://stash.reaper.fm/v/38803/CSI_...tender_V02.zip

Behringer X-Touch Mini:
https://stash.reaper.fm/v/36962/CSI_X-TouchMini.zip

CSI Icon Nano (WaveTrans):
https://stash.reaper.fm/v/38686/CSI_IconNano_2_0.zip

Allan & Heath GS-R24M (by panevalentin)
https://stash.reaper.fm/v/38145/Alle...up%20files.zip

Console1 Universal Control (by Wonder6oy):
https://stash.reaper.fm/v/36963/CSI%...%20Control.zip

Behringer BCR/BCF (by MixMonkey):
https://stash.reaper.fm/v/35641/BCR%2BBCF2000CSI.zip

MIDI Fighter Twister (by Funkybot):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lfikysmeco...0v1-5.zip?dl=0

Behringer X-Touch One (by Funkbyot):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/21f9z72djk...evice.zip?dl=0

This is awesome. I'll add them to the site.
Thanks.

kevrose · 09-25-2020, 12:25 PM

I also tried the stock MCU plugin that comes with Reaper, and the master track is working fine with that...

MixMonkey · 09-25-2020, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevrose

I also tried the stock MCU plugin that comes with Reaper, and the master track is working fine with that...

I substituted your MCU.zon and MCU.mst into my system and the master fader works fine. So the fault lies somewhere else in the CSI setup.

You haven't accidentally selected MCUXT.mst in the CSI prefs have you?

Geoff Waddington · 09-25-2020, 02:17 PM

Thanks everyone for holding down the fort here, as I'm working away.

Geoff Waddington · 09-25-2020, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siniarch

Hey guys,

I've been thinking of how awesome it would be if we had a website with all the configuration files for the different surfaces for CSI.

It could have descriptions, and even link back to specific posts to this thread regarding anything specific for it.

It would also have the creator's name and if they wished, an email to contact them.

I can maintain this site if people like and host the files on my server, but if people don't feel comfortable with that, they can also host the files themselves, and I can link to them as well.

Eventually, we can also add the FX mappings available for each surface as well.

I created a quick WIX site that shows the intent. Let me know if you guys think this is a good idea and people think it's worth pursuing.

https://siniarch.wixsite.com/csiconfigfiles

Here's 7 more for you that I've been hanging onto, don't know if there are newer versions.

Geoff Waddington · 09-25-2020, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B4Lasers

Trying to setup Artist Mix, I followed the instructions on Github..But every time I select Eucon the second time Reaper Crashes Video included Below

video
https://drive.google.com/file/d/11bD...ew?usp=sharing

Are you on Catalina ?

That may be problem.

B4Lasers · 09-25-2020, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington

Are you on Catalina ?

That may be problem.

yes I am On Catalina

B4Lasers · 09-25-2020, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington

Are you on Catalina ?

That may be problem.

I did do what a guy wentions earlier and did secleted Eucon first than CSI and that worked without crashing..but the param's dont do anything I see Pan Left & Right, Fx Page, And Sends Page Also Fader Movement when i turn on my ipad i can see the eucons faderrs moving...but they dont sync to Reaper...If I Load 8 Tracks Nothings Locks

kevrose · 09-25-2020, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMonkey

I substituted your MCU.zon and MCU.mst into my system and the master fader works fine. So the fault lies somewhere else in the CSI setup.

You haven't accidentally selected MCUXT.mst in the CSI prefs have you?

Not quite, but I had the wrong zone folder selected! That's sorted, thanks for your help and patience.

Geoff Waddington · 09-25-2020, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B4Lasers

I did do what a guy wentions earlier and did secleted Eucon first than CSI and that worked without crashing..but the param's dont do anything I see Pan Left & Right, Fx Page, And Sends Page Also Fader Movement when i turn on my ipad i can see the eucons faderrs moving...but they dont sync to Reaper...If I Load 8 Tracks Nothings Locks

OK, what happens if you now restart Reaper ?