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12-06-2019, 03:42 AM
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Reamping in Reaper? Help !
Hello guys! I saw a guy on Youtube showing how he takes his tracks out of DAW via the output on his Audio interface ( I could not see with audio interface he was using ) then send it to a guitar pedal Color Box processes it and then plug the output of the pedal back to the front input of his Audio interface ... That is exactly what i need! There is no Di boxes were involved so simple! Now i am using Focusrite Solo audio interface and it does not have the output lines... only for the speakers ... So my question is which Audio interface would allow me to do it this way and what cables will i need for this process ?
Please forgive me my enlish !
Thanks everyone !!!
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12-06-2019, 04:30 AM
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You need a reamping Box, radial makes some nice ones. (Radial X-amp)
then you need to output the guitar track for one avalable output on you audio interface, so the signal travels through that output to the input of the reamping box. Next you connect the out of the reamping box to the input of your FX pedals. You then connect the output of your pedals to one input of you audio interface to record the processed signal.
Remember that the signal travels from reaper, to output, to reamp box, to pedals...this takes time..
After you record the incoming signal you zoom in your source track and the recorded track and adjust booth signal to match the exact tempo.
Hope this helps. Its a easy process once you try it.
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12-06-2019, 04:31 AM
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You do need something to change it from guitar level to line level and then do the opposite on the way out from your interface to the amp and I don't think there is an interface that does that yet but I'm not 100%. The cheapest thing and the way I did it starting out was to buy this direct box because it goes both ways without any problem.
https://www.amazon.com/Radial-Pro-Pa.../dp/B000A8J3N2
I have used this direct box to do it personally and it works fine for it. In fact Radial started making a $99 reamping box more recently probably because why buy the more expensive ones if that exists. Now, there are $199+ dedicated re-amping boxes that have bonuses like effects loops, mute buttons, hp filters, phase switches but you don't have to have any of that. I currently have an MW1 which is a really nice box but it is a bit of overkill. The Pro-DI is the way I would go and it's a great passive direct box.
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12-06-2019, 05:06 AM
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I use the Palmer Daccapo on a regular basis. Works as advertised, sounds clean and good, features a ground lift, a -10/+4dB in input switch and a volume pot for the output level (though I don't know why they did that. If I keep the DI guitar track level at around -18dB RMS, the amp sounds exactly like with the guitar plugged in).
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12-06-2019, 06:59 AM
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You need an USB audio interface that features a hi-Z input and very low latency here are quite a lot of those e.g. by Native instruments, AFAIR).
And you need a decently fast computer and maybe tweak the OS to allow for decent low latency performance (see the "Live" subforum for more info).
-Michael
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12-06-2019, 08:08 AM
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Thank you guys for the input ! God that sounds like a lot of work ... So direct box is the only way to go then ! I once had a digital Zoom 16 porta studio now i wonder is there a way to take tracks that i want to mess with by SD memory card from my computer to Zoom porta studio and then record from the through the pedal back into computer ? What do you think of this ?
Thanks!
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12-06-2019, 08:13 AM
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Its not a DI box! is a reamp box! They are completely different things!
D.I box - transforms high impedance level to low impedance - Example , instrument to a mixer preamp!
Re-amp Box - transforms low impedance to high impedance! - Example , Lineout of audio interface to Guitar pedals.
Read the responses!! dont make mistakes and learn from the users.
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12-06-2019, 09:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhino
Hello guys! I saw a guy on Youtube showing how he takes his tracks out of DAW via the output on his Audio interface ( I could not see with audio interface he was using ) then send it to a guitar pedal Color Box processes it and then plug the output of the pedal back to the front input of his Audio interface ... That is exactly what i need! There is no Di boxes were involved so simple! Now i am using Focusrite Solo audio interface and it does not have the output lines... only for the speakers ... So my question is which Audio interface would allow me to do it this way and what cables will i need for this process ?
Please forgive me my enlish !
Thanks everyone !!!
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You can "borrow" one of the outputs you normally use for monitoring for the reamp work. You don't need to have both of your stereo monitors connected during the reamp pass.
You could likely get away with connecting a combo balanced/unbalanced 1/4" output directly to an amp input. But you will very likely have better results using a passive DI box backwards. (And you probably already have one lying around so...) Get too fast and loose with the connections and now the simulator plugins are winning again.
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12-06-2019, 09:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by camerondye
... I currently have an MW1 which is a really nice box but it is a bit of overkill. ...
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I wished this box was available here in Germany!!
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12-07-2019, 03:23 AM
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Hello everyone ! Guys i apologize for misleading you with my question! I realised that what i am after is not the reamping technique ! Basically i want to buy a JHS Color Box guitar pedal and use it during mixing stage to process my tracks like sampled drums for example . Now i have Focusrite Solo which does not have send/return outputs for this task . I want to ask what is the best way to do it ? Buy a new audio interface with appropriate outputs (Please suggest which one should i go for if you have in mind anything ) or maybe there is a way to do it with my current set up? I am also thinking of getting some 1073 mic pre clone this way why do i need another preamp in my audio interface ? May be i should get some simple but reliable anolog to digital converter and use lets say Golden Age Pre 73 as a pre amp? I just want to figure out what should i do and get back to music production itself !
Any input will be highly appreciated !!!
Thanks!
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12-07-2019, 06:41 AM
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I use ReaInsert on a track template for this. The interface output and input are prewired in the template so all I have to do is swap in the pedal or pedal chain I want to use. Also the ReaInsert track is preset to record the track output, so I get recorded audio, and don't need to resort to realtime renders.
If you have an interface without a spare output this is a bit of a pain; you'd have to both mute that output in the master track (to avoid feedback) and also connect the output in the track.
I don't use a reamp or DI box and it works fine. Just keep in mind the noise floor for most pedals is pretty high. I get around -45 dBFS, which is a bit higher than the the noise floor for a reel tape machine.
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12-07-2019, 06:46 AM
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You don’t need any special box. If you had simply said “hardware effect”, nobody would ever have suggested a reamp box. Mention “guitar pedal” or in this case specifically “reamp” and people think it’s some completely different thing. It’s not. It’s just hardware gear like any other and all you need to do is plug it in and watch your levels just like with all hardware.
As serr said, you don’t exactly need more outputs as long as you’re willing to monitor the process in mono. I don’t think that’s a great solution, especially if you want to do more of this kind of thing. So you need an interface with at least one more output, and since they normally come in pairs, you’ll probably end up with 4.
IMO, Tascam is the best actual bang for the buck out there. A 4x4 would do what you want, but you could probably find a used US1800 for cheaper and end up with 14 inputs for when you decide to record more than one thing at a time.
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12-08-2019, 03:08 AM
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Hello guys! Thanks for the replays! Tascam option is very attractive ! I have got all the answers from you thanks everyone !!!!
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