DrivenByMoss: Support for many hardware controllers (version 23.2.1)

[protodude]

Originally Posted by moss

They are still on the server, just exchange the version number.

No real idea about the crash, the problem with this is that Reaper does not write any logging information.

Thanks for getting back to me on this, Moss. Reaper opens just fine with version 8.96.

[politcat]

Originally Posted by moss

Could it be that the "Display brightness" is set to 0? The setting is above the color settings.
In Ableton you can press Setup and turn the 2nd knob above the display.

no, push just freezes so i wouldn't be able to change brightness anyway

and i still don't get the fact that push goes blank in Live now

[grandfougue]

Originally Posted by moss

Please check if all files are extracted correctly.
1) Clear the directory
2) Download again the ZIP file to be sure that it is not broken
3) Extract again and make sure to keep the sub-directories

Sorry but even after cleaning the user plugin folder and re-extracting it inside but I still have the same message

[Joebox]

Originally Posted by protodude

Hi Moss,

Thank you for the update!

Unfortunately, if I install the plugin, Reaper just closes immediately after opening - whether it is with a new project or loading a previous one. No error messages at all.

If I remove the plugin files from the 'UserPlugins' folder, Reaper opens as usual.

I've tried redownloading, extracting with 7zip instead of using the built-in Windows function, rebooting the machine, but to no avail. The OS is Windows 10, fully updated after a full reformat this weekend.

Any thoughts on what might be happening? Besides that, both as a workaround and for troubleshooting, is there any way I could download v8.96 or v8.95?

Thanks!

having the same problem.
I even uninstalled Reaper, re-install it and added the plugin. Poof- crash. deleting the plugin- all work.
In Windows event log- it shows the crash happens after the system tries to load the plugin.
Not sure it helps but this was copied from the event log:

Faulting application name: reaper.exe, version: 6.0.8.0, time stamp: 0x5e879ecd
Faulting module name: reaper_drivenbymoss.dll, version: 8.9.7.0, time stamp: 0x5e94a67a
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x000000000001d276
Faulting process id: 0x2548
Faulting application start time: 0x01d6169e6bffac19
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\REAPER (x64)\reaper.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Users\Joe\AppData\Roaming\REAPER\UserPlugins\re aper_drivenbymoss.dll
Report Id: 7483cc73-8ac0-4b64-a75d-e4046c902781
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:

[Joebox]

Originally Posted by Joebox

Hi Moss
just installed Latest Reaper version, then the latest DBM4R (8.96).
First deleted all previous files and folders in UserPlugin, then extract the new version.
In the Configure screen, I choose "Add". Just after choosing a Controller/utility- Reaper crashes.Any idea why?

The log file is attached

Sorry for quoting myself...
I deleted all files/folder of 8.97. downloaded 8.96 and extracted it.
Reaper doesn't crash immediately as in 8.97. However it does crash as it happend before (what is described in the quote).

[DrFrankencopter]

Same issue here. Crash on launch (Windows 7 and Reaper 64 v6.08). I've got Visual Studio on my machine so I'm given the chance to "debug". But there are no debug symbols available to interpret so all I can offer is that this is the message:

"Unhandled exception at 0x000000000A79D276 (reaper_drivenbymoss.dll) in reaper.exe: 0xC0000005: Access violation reading location 0x0000000000000081."

Sounds like a pointer problem to me...

Uninstalling the dll and folders lets Reaper start normally.

[moss]

Originally Posted by politcat

no, push just freezes so i wouldn't be able to change brightness anyway

You can also change it in the settings dialog (above the color settings). Give it a try.

Originally Posted by politcat

and i still don't get the fact that push goes blank in Live now

Not nice but could also be a hardware defect.

[moss]

Originally Posted by DrFrankencopter

Same issue here. Crash on launch (Windows 7 and Reaper 64 v6.08). I've got Visual Studio on my machine so I'm given the chance to "debug". But there are no debug symbols available to interpret so all I can offer is that this is the message:

"Unhandled exception at 0x000000000A79D276 (reaper_drivenbymoss.dll) in reaper.exe: 0xC0000005: Access violation reading location 0x0000000000000081."

Sounds like a pointer problem to me...

Uninstalling the dll and folders lets Reaper start normally.

I guess its an issue with the parsing of the new document parameters. Do you have other extensions installed? Are you automatically loading a personal project template?

[DrFrankencopter]

Originally Posted by moss

I guess its an issue with the parsing of the new document parameters. Do you have other extensions installed? Are you automatically loading a personal project template?

I have my own g13LCD plugin running, but the g13 wasn't connected and so my main thread would have just sat idle.

No templates...and no other plugins.

[moss]

Originally Posted by Joebox

Not sure it helps but this was copied from the event log:

Faulting application name: reaper.exe, version: 6.0.8.0, time stamp: 0x5e879ecd
Faulting module name: reaper_drivenbymoss.dll, version: 8.9.7.0, time stamp: 0x5e94a67a
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x000000000001d276
Faulting process id: 0x2548
Faulting application start time: 0x01d6169e6bffac19
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\REAPER (x64)\reaper.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Users\Joe\AppData\Roaming\REAPER\UserPlugins\re aper_drivenbymoss.dll
Report Id: 7483cc73-8ac0-4b64-a75d-e4046c902781
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:

Thanks, this helped a lot!

Could you please try if this file fixes the issue?
http://mossgrabers.de/stuff/reaper_d...ymoss_TEST.zip

[Joebox]

Originally Posted by moss

Thanks, this helped a lot!

Could you please try if this file fixes the issue?
http://mossgrabers.de/stuff/reaper_d...ymoss_TEST.zip

I assumed it matches v8.97
Replaced the dll with the one you sent.
Again, when trying to add a control (inside configuration) Reaper crashes.
In Windows task manager the Reaper process stays as a "ghost process" and now there is no trace in the event viewer

[moss]

Originally Posted by Joebox

I assumed it matches v8.97
Replaced the dll with the one you sent.
Again, when trying to add a control (inside configuration) Reaper crashes.
In Windows task manager the Reaper process stays as a "ghost process" and now there is no trace in the event viewer

To clarify:
1) It does not crash on startup of Reaper?
2) It crashes when you add the DrivenByMoss extension?
3) ... or it crashes when you add a device in the DrivenByMoss dialog?

[grillo]

Hi Moss

Thank you for this new version. Everything is all right here but like with the previous one if my pan is written at 54Left in reaper the MCU unterstand a 54Right.
Like u can see on the screen shots.

From Reaper to MCU all the pan messages are understanded inverted.

From MCU to reaper it is all right. A 60R is writen 60R in reaper.

Regards and thnk you for your help

PS : mac os 10.12.6 + MCU pro + 6.08/64

[yhertogh]

hey! I also created an issue on the github for this. I unfortunately have to run MACOS Yosemite (10.10) in my studio, as that is the only supported version for my SSL Nucleus' USB port. But this plugin doesn't seem to work for that version. Is there any way you could extend the support ? Am I perhaps able to built this .lib myself ?

[Joebox]

Originally Posted by moss

To clarify:
1) It does not crash on startup of Reaper?
2) It crashes when you add the DrivenByMoss extension?
3) ... or it crashes when you add a device in the DrivenByMoss dialog?

with the test version of the dll you’ve sent me- only crashes when you add a device in the DrivenByMoss dialog

[moss]

Originally Posted by grillo

Hi Moss

Thank you for this new version. Everything is all right here but like with the previous one if my pan is written at 54Left in reaper the MCU unterstand a 54Right.
Like u can see on the screen shots.

From Reaper to MCU all the pan messages are understanded inverted.

From MCU to reaper it is all right. A 60R is writen 60R in reaper.

Regards and thnk you for your help

PS : mac os 10.12.6 + MCU pro + 6.08/64

Aah, now I see! The issue is with the envelope not with the Panorama knob. Will check what is wrong.

[grillo]

Originally Posted by moss

Aah, now I see! The issue is with the envelope not with the Panorama knob. Will check what is wrong.

Thank you moss!!

[moss]

I released version 8.98.

I hope this fixes the criticial bugs:

• Fixed: Values of panorama envelope were flipped (left was right and vice versa)
• Fixed: Document setting code must not be executed when extension is not running
• Fixed: Fixed several issues on first startup (when DrivenByMoss is not yet added as control surface)

EDIT: Just updated the file with updated manual and a fix in the OpenStageControl template.

[Saxjazz251]

I love your work, fantastic !!!!

But I have an issue though, the moment I add/load/enable your plugin DrivenByMoss v 8.98 in a project, Mac OS X 10.14.6 in Reaper v6.0.2 , while running Vienna Ensemble Pro 7 on a track it forces VEP 7 to save every 5 seconds continually.

Any suggestions as I will be using your plugin for my Mackie MCU for Huge Orchestral scoring via VEP 7 ? The aforementioned issue makes this impossible.

TY in advanced !

[moss]

Originally Posted by Saxjazz251

I love your work, fantastic !!!!

But I have an issue though, the moment I add/load/enable your plugin DrivenByMoss v 8.98 in a project, Mac OS X 10.14.6 in Reaper v6.0.2 , while running Vienna Ensemble Pro 7 on a track it forces VEP 7 to save every 5 seconds continually.

Any suggestions as I will be using your plugin for my Mackie MCU for Huge Orchestral scoring via VEP 7 ? The aforementioned issue makes this impossible.

TY in advanced !

What do you mean by "it forces VEP 7 to save"? I am not familiar with VEP7.

[grillo]

Originally Posted by moss

I released version 8.98.

I hope this fixes the criticial bugs:

• Fixed: Values of panorama envelope were flipped (left was right and vice versa)
• Fixed: Document setting code must not be executed when extension is not running
• Fixed: Fixed several issues on first startup (when DrivenByMoss is not yet added as control surface)

Thank you Moss!!
All issues with pan are solved here. Perfect work with a MCU pro / MAa os 10.12.6 / Reaper 6

[Saxjazz251]

Vienna Ensemble Pro 7 is a networked au vst host platform, like all DAW's it has a save function . It is being triggered somehow by the DrivenByMoss plugin ? Which VEP 7 has a on a MAC shortcut/hotkey of "Shift+Command +S". Maybe a java based issue, as midi monitors are not seeing any activity ?

The issue only happens when the plugin is added to any project w/ VEP 7 on a track.

Temporary Solution/Workaround:

I found a workaround, VEP has a decoupled state , the issue ceases when decoupled , not ideal but functional !!!

[moss]

Originally Posted by Saxjazz251

Vienna Ensemble Pro 7 is a networked au vst host platform, like all DAW's it has a save function . It is being triggered somehow by the DrivenByMoss plugin ? Which VEP 7 has a on a MAC shortcut/hotkey of "Shift+Command +S". Maybe a java based issue, as midi monitors are not seeing any activity ?

The issue only happens when the plugin is added to any project w/ VEP 7 on a track.

Temporary Solution/Workaround:

I found a workaround, VEP has a decoupled state , the issue ceases when decoupled , not ideal but functional !!!

Sorry, no real idea here since I cannot test that.
Are you running this host on the same or a different computer?
When does it normally safe? Already if a state changes in the plugin or if you safe in Reaper?

[Saxjazz251]

I'm running it on a separate machine/MAC, the save happens on the VEP 7 machine.

[moss]

Originally Posted by Saxjazz251

I'm running it on a separate machine/MAC, the save happens on the VEP 7 machine.

So, this means the plugin triggers the save.
When does it do so normally (without the issue)?
When you change someting in the plugin or only when you save a project?

[oceanographer]

The update fixed my crashing issues. Thanks!

[politcat]

Originally Posted by politcat

Uh oh

My Push 2 is frozen in Reaper. restarting Reaper doesn't help with or without Push being on. Altho frozen, I can add a track in Reaper and the Push screen updates, but buttons, pads etc not working.

What's worse it's not working at all with Ableton Live now. the screen just goes blank after opening Live.

help!

Originally Posted by moss

Maybe try a new USB cable or another port?

when i tried another port the screen lit up and the strip worked, but none of the buttons or pads lit up or worked

[Leewadmixfm]

Thanks, Jürgen

Something decent for the Behringer X-Touch its working a treat here

Nice one

Lee

[luiza177]

First things first, thank you so much for making this! This is even better than using the Push with Live!

Forgive me if this has been asked before, I couldn't seem to find it, or if I'm missing something obvious. But is there a way to move the play cursor by measures+beats, rather than by seconds via Small Knob 2 in the Push 2?

[cjewellstudios]

It's been a while since I posted in the thread just wanted to say that the maschine mikro mkIII functionality is really good. I'll be putting it through its paces in the upcoming weeks.

Out of curiosity, can you Jurgen, or anyone else think of a way I can use this extension and all (well most) of the functionality here (scale/chord mode) as input on a regular track?

[moss]

Originally Posted by luiza177

First things first, thank you so much for making this! This is even better than using the Push with Live!

Forgive me if this has been asked before, I couldn't seem to find it, or if I'm missing something obvious. But is there a way to move the play cursor by measures+beats, rather than by seconds via Small Knob 2 in the Push 2?

Currently not. But also the time scrolling does not necessarily stick to the grid. Maybe something to look into.

[moss]

Originally Posted by cjewellstudios

It's been a while since I posted in the thread just wanted to say that the maschine mikro mkIII functionality is really good. I'll be putting it through its paces in the upcoming weeks.

Out of curiosity, can you Jurgen, or anyone else think of a way I can use this extension and all (well most) of the functionality here (scale/chord mode) as input on a regular track?

Not sure, if I understand your question. What do you mean with "regular track"?
The pads you play on the Maschine incl. the selected scale will be send to the record enable track, so you can play any VSTi on this track.

[cjewellstudios]

Originally Posted by moss

Not sure, if I understand your question. What do you mean with "regular track"?
The pads you play on the Maschine incl. the selected scale will be send to the record enable track, so you can play any VSTi on this track.

I thought this extension looked ay all the tracks with a Maschine instance. I do believe I tried to get input on a track without Maschine but it's possible I just didn't understand what was going on. I'll try it now that I have a better understanding. Thanks Moss!

[mehmethan]

Hi Jurgen,
Today I experienced a very strange thing. I have a project with 35 tracks and suddenly volume faders on many tracks started to move up and down randomly. I restarted PC and again same thing. This happened in all my attempts. I’m using push2 and I’m not touching it. Finally I deleted DBM 8.98 and reinstalled it and everything is normal again now. Do you have any idea what can cause this?

More questions:

- Will there be any update or a new workflow on session view more like ableton or playtime?

- Is there a way DBM to stop adding JS: midi arp to the tracks. I now that this is for repeat functions. But DBM adds this plugin even Im not touching or using repeat funcitons.

[moss]

Originally Posted by mehmethan

Hi Jurgen,
Today I experienced a very strange thing. I have a project with 35 tracks and suddenly volume faders on many tracks started to move up and down randomly. I restarted PC and again same thing. This happened in all my attempts. I’m using push2 and I’m not touching it. Finally I deleted DBM 8.98 and reinstalled it and everything is normal again now. Do you have any idea what can cause this?

Sorry, no idea.

Originally Posted by mehmethan

- Will there be any update or a new workflow on session view more like ableton or playtime?

Can you explain what you mean exactly?

Originally Posted by mehmethan

- Is there a way DBM to stop adding JS: midi arp to the tracks. I now that this is for repeat functions. But DBM adds this plugin even Im not touching or using repeat funcitons.

This should not happen, will check.

[cjewellstudios]

Originally Posted by moss

Not sure, if I understand your question. What do you mean with "regular track"?
The pads you play on the Maschine incl. the selected scale will be send to the record enable track, so you can play any VSTi on this track.

Ok so what I meant by a "regular track" was a track without Maschine on it. I concluded by your respone here that the midi from the mikro would go to any record enabled track but that doesn't appear to be the case. So are you suggesting that I put Maschine on a track and then load the vsti I prefer afterward? Or that I load the vsti within Maschine? Those both make sense but I'd either have to make sure the midi goes through maschine and to the preferred vsti or figure out how to route out of Maschine. I was just trying to find the path of least resistance/problems.

Thanks for your continued support for all of this, it's really great!

[moss]

Originally Posted by cjewellstudios

Ok so what I meant by a "regular track" was a track without Maschine on it. I concluded by your respone here that the midi from the mikro would go to any record enabled track but that doesn't appear to be the case. So are you suggesting that I put Maschine on a track and then load the vsti I prefer afterward? Or that I load the vsti within Maschine? Those both make sense but I'd either have to make sure the midi goes through maschine and to the preferred vsti or figure out how to route out of Maschine. I was just trying to find the path of least resistance/problems.

Thanks for your continued support for all of this, it's really great!

I am wondering if you are using the extension at all. It is intended for not using the Maschine plugin. That works also without the extension. Check out the videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBIk...fprkesgLetvjpr
They are for Bitwig but the usage is the same.

[cjewellstudios]

Originally Posted by moss

I am wondering if you are using the extension at all. It is intended for not using the Maschine plugin. That works also without the extension. Check out the videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBIk...fprkesgLetvjpr
They are for Bitwig but the usage is the same.

I was actually using the extension. I had watched your vids several times actually and somehow missed the part about the "events" tab being the play mode (*facepalm*). However, I still couldn't get the midi into record armed track yet. Seeing as I hadn't updated in a while, I did that and when I did I got this ERROR.

drivenbymoss: ERROR: Could not call updateModel.java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: getFormattedDocumentSettings

EDIT: Found some more things that may point to what is wrong. In the log every time I hit a midi pad it says "midi note on should be handled in framework"

This also came up in the log "Unhandled OSC address: /user/param/count 0"

Just so we're clear I did have some functionality figured out. For instance, the transport seems to work. I noticed a couple of quirks right away but let's wait on those to make sure it's not something I'm doing wrong. Sorry for all the confusion

EDIT 2: I got some notes to play using the device simulator, interesting

[moss]

Originally Posted by cjewellstudios

I was actually using the extension. I had watched your vids several times actually and somehow missed the part about the "events" tab being the play mode (*facepalm*). However, I still couldn't get the midi into record armed track yet. Seeing as I hadn't updated in a while, I did that and when I did I got this ERROR.

drivenbymoss: ERROR: Could not call updateModel.java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: getFormattedDocumentSettings

EDIT: Found some more things that may point to what is wrong. In the log every time I hit a midi pad it says "midi note on should be handled in framework"

This also came up in the log "Unhandled OSC address: /user/param/count 0"

Just so we're clear I did have some functionality figured out. For instance, the transport seems to work. I noticed a couple of quirks right away but let's wait on those to make sure it's not something I'm doing wrong. Sorry for all the confusion

EDIT 2: I got some notes to play using the device simulator, interesting

Seems you have a mixed up installation with files from different versions. Please clear the directory and extract the ZIP file again.

[cjewellstudios]

Originally Posted by moss

Seems you have a mixed up installation with files from different versions. Please clear the directory and extract the ZIP file again.

Ok so I attempted to do that and now I get this:

Native Instruments Maschine Mikro Mk3: Starting...
Error in executing SafeRunLater.
java.lang.NullPointerException
	at de.mossgrabers.framework.mode.track.SelectedSendMode.<init>(SelectedSendMode.java:45)
	at de.mossgrabers.controller.maschine.mikro.mk3.MaschineMikroMk3ControllerSetup.createModes(MaschineMikroMk3ControllerSetup.java:182)
	at de.mossgrabers.framework.controller.AbstractControllerSetup.init(AbstractControllerSetup.java:127)
	at de.mossgrabers.reaper.controller.AbstractControllerInstance.delayedStart(AbstractControllerInstance.java:278)
	at de.mossgrabers.reaper.ui.utils.SafeRunLater.lambda$execute$0(SafeRunLater.java:37)
	at java.desktop/java.awt.event.InvocationEvent.dispatch(Unknown Source)
	at java.desktop/java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
	at java.desktop/java.awt.EventQueue$4.run(Unknown Source)
	at java.desktop/java.awt.EventQueue$4.run(Unknown Source)
	at java.base/java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Unknown Source)
	at java.base/java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown Source)
	at java.desktop/java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
	at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown Source)
	at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown Source)
	at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown Source)
	at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
	at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
	at java.desktop/java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)

Since I knew there was something else to do I tried to open the config file for the NI controller editor again but when you point controller editor to the Maschine Mikro mk3 resources directory, it looks for an .ncc file and nothing is there to load. There is a file in that directory, it's just a different extension. I also just watched your video on that and it seems that's the problem, the .ncc file isn't there.