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Default WT Imperial v5 - progress snapshot build

Here's what I've been working on for the better part of a year. Its very far from done, 6 months to go would be my guess. I'm sharing it because I think its very good and the world is full of good things and on some days its good to remember that. I also want to get the WALTER out because I believe some of it could be extremely useful to other themers.

On that subject : please feel free to raid the WALTER and use whatever bits of code you might find useful (suggestion: the imageshift macros are very simple but do wonderful things). However, I must insist that you do not use any of the images or make mods of the theme or anything like that yet, let me finish first. I'm including an awful lot of code and alternative images to make modding easy and powerful, in good time.

Its just the mixer so far, that's where I started. Because, well, its Imperial.

The build I am sharing is the latest one that is currently in use by my testers. Its moderately usable. I'm not necessarily looking for feedback at the moment, I've got plenty of testers who I trust implicitly, but if you're curious then please feel free to take a look. Here's the theme file; DON'T MAKE ME REGRET SHARING IT m'kay?

Its Imperial, it looks like Imperial. But more so. The ethos remains as it was; to take a lot of space and use it to show everything at once, with generous sizing and margins to make control searching and mouse-hit easy. The old Imperial scored extremely high in function and usability testing, my hope and expectation is this will perhaps surpass it.



Imperial didn't resize because I designed it to be used full screen. Which people didn't necessarily want to do. So now its got full WALTER on every layout, so the sizes degrade elegantly:



I have made extensive use of the new custom colouring method we got in V5:



And, of course, the 'None More Black' layout is back:



...which showcases what can be done with custom colouring. I'll be doing more of this in time, and different patterns.



This layout can also be used to commit crimes against humanity:



The flat styled 'Stockholm' layout is ideal for your synth tracks:



it also has custom colouring tricks, and some pan control implementations that you might like:



Imperial was designed for big screens, and preferably two of them. But people wanted to use it on small screens. Okay, fine Here's the 'project' layout, which has full shrinking WALTER, folder indenting, and a selection of fader colours. And a None More Black variant, of course.



Speaking of small size, I've completely redesigned the Sidecar layout. It features my new iris-style stacked pan/width knobs:



It custom colours nicely, and has a sophisticated folder indentation / signal flow design that I think works well:



here's what all that stuff means:



I've based the redesigned Tracking Deck layout on the Sidecar:



and finally there are strip layouts. These have 'USER : mess with these:' sections in the WALTER so users can easily whip up variants:



Please enjoy. I might do another snapshot build once its further along, we'll see.
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Old 11-09-2016, 11:18 AM   #2
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Thank You. I feel that "Stockholm" will be my next Mixer Default.
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Old 11-09-2016, 11:30 AM   #3
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Really amazing work man!

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Old 11-09-2016, 11:36 AM   #4
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Wow.... Looks great!
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Old 11-09-2016, 11:35 AM   #5
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Wow, many thanks for sharing the secrets!

Now when I'm looking at it again I'm intrigued about the flat layout's track selected state shown as the glowing fader ranges, as you had it in the screenshot in the other thread. Hopefully that trickery is also included in there! Will take a good look when I have time for theming again. Love your work, thanks again!

PS. have you considered top-aligned MCP folder indents, as utilized in the Pinksoir's WIP, ENABLE theme? I didn't know it was possible, but it neatly solves the issue of the children fader ranges being shortened/misaligned.

PPS. you do the contrast in the "flat & gray" very well. It's so calm yet crisp and clear.

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Old 11-09-2016, 11:43 AM   #6
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The thing that will let it down, like all other themes, are the non-theme-able parts of REAPER's interface.

Thanks for sharing though, it looks fantastic, WT
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Old 11-09-2016, 12:17 PM   #8
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This is beyond slick.

As I was browsing through the theme and images, I thought i could faintly hear "Thus Spake Zarathustra" slowly building to a crescendo in the background.

Seriously ... This is really damn good.


I'll be making extensive use of the Leopard Print mixer strips
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Jesus Christ.

No, seriously, I think WT might be Jesus Christ.
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Old 11-09-2016, 11:47 PM   #10
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Amazing work!!!


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Here's what I've been working on for the better part of a year. Its very far from done, 6 months to go would be my guess. I'm sharing it because I think its very good and the world is full of good things and on some days its good to remember that.

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Old 11-09-2016, 11:51 PM   #11
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This is rhino mega super tubular awesome to the highest degree!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-10-2016, 01:43 AM   #12
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Nice! It really looks amazing! But Have you considered leaving a space before tracks when you create folders?
(Thank you for your great work!)
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Old 11-10-2016, 06:18 AM   #13
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Fan - tas - tic!

Thanks man for working so hard on this theme and for sharing it with us. Absolutely intuitive layouts but I agree with G-Sun: (blank) dividers would be the icing on the cake!

Can't wait to use this theme!!!
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Thank you sir! Keep up the good work!
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Just another thumbs up for this lovely looking theme.
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Old 11-10-2016, 08:14 AM   #16
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Simply amazing! Especially as there is a resize possibility for the mixer now, because I use it on a "almost full-screen" view with some toolbars below the mixer (all on a touchscreen).
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Old 11-10-2016, 10:08 AM   #17
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White Tie, you're simply the best. The look I prefer is Stockholm (is this a new Stockholm syndrom ?) because of the dual pan mode visualization. It's the first time we have a visual idea of the way our tracks are panned. Thanks for that, I was waiting for this for years.
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I'm in a state of paralyzed gobsmackedness.
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Old 11-12-2016, 04:31 PM   #19
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There it is, just READ it:

Here's what I've been working on for the better part of a year. Its very far from done, 6 months to go would be my guess. I'm sharing it because I think its very good and the world is full of good things and on some days its good to remember that. I also want to get the WALTER out because I believe some of it could be extremely useful to other themers.

On that subject : please feel free to raid the WALTER and use whatever bits of code you might find useful (suggestion: the imageshift macros are very simple but do wonderful things). However, I must insist that you do not use any of the images or make mods of the theme or anything like that yet, let me finish first. I'm including an awful lot of code and alternative images to make modding easy and powerful, in good time.

Its just the mixer so far, that's where I started. Because, well, its Imperial.

The build I am sharing is the latest one that is currently in use by my testers. Its moderately usable. I'm not necessarily looking for feedback at the moment, I've got plenty of testers who I trust implicitly, but if you're curious then please feel free to take a look. Here's the theme file; DON'T MAKE ME REGRET SHARING IT m'kay?

Its Imperial, it looks like Imperial. But more so. The ethos remains as it was; to take a lot of space and use it to show everything at once, with generous sizing and margins to make control searching and mouse-hit easy. The old Imperial scored extremely high in function and usability testing, my hope and expectation is this will perhaps surpass it.
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Old 11-12-2016, 11:11 PM   #20
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Stockholm looks great, dyes great, lol, too bad Master track remains the same

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Stockholm looks great, dyes great, lol, too bad Master track remains the same

My stockholm Master is ok.

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How on earth do you change the Master looks? I don't see the same menu as the other tracks... let alone the right option of it.

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How on earth do you change the Master looks? I don't see the same menu as the other tracks... let alone the right option of it.


@sightlessness - Not sure maybe you need to DL it again.
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(First of all thanks Never )

Lol, yeah, I usually try to apply track style directly by right clicking a track, but after studying your image it came to me that it is in general menu>options>layouts.

Love it so far Stockhold B, very very nice. Wish it had a narrow mode too, although 18 tracks plus master is not bad at all, lol.

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Here's what I've been working on for the better part of a year. Its very far from done, 6 months to go would be my guess. I'm sharing it because I think its very good and the world is full of good things and on some days its good to remember that. I also want to get the WALTER out because I believe some of it could be extremely useful to other themers.

On that subject : please feel free to raid the WALTER and use whatever bits of code you might find useful (suggestion: the imageshift macros are very simple but do wonderful things). However, I must insist that you do not use any of the images or make mods of the theme or anything like that yet, let me finish first. I'm including an awful lot of code and alternative images to make modding easy and powerful, in good time.

Its just the mixer so far, that's where I started. Because, well, its Imperial.

The build I am sharing is the latest one that is currently in use by my testers. Its moderately usable. I'm not necessarily looking for feedback at the moment, I've got plenty of testers who I trust implicitly, but if you're curious then please feel free to take a look. Here's the theme file; DON'T MAKE ME REGRET SHARING IT m'kay?

Its Imperial, it looks like Imperial. But more so. The ethos remains as it was; to take a lot of space and use it to show everything at once, with generous sizing and margins to make control searching and mouse-hit easy. The old Imperial scored extremely high in function and usability testing, my hope and expectation is this will perhaps surpass it.



Imperial didn't resize because I designed it to be used full screen. Which people didn't necessarily want to do. So now its got full WALTER on every layout, so the sizes degrade elegantly:



I have made extensive use of the new custom colouring method we got in V5:



And, of course, the 'None More Black' layout is back:



...which showcases what can be done with custom colouring. I'll be doing more of this in time, and different patterns.



This layout can also be used to commit crimes against humanity:



The flat styled 'Stockholm' layout is ideal for your synth tracks:



it also has custom colouring tricks, and some pan control implementations that you might like:



Imperial was designed for big screens, and preferably two of them. But people wanted to use it on small screens. Okay, fine Here's the 'project' layout, which has full shrinking WALTER, folder indenting, and a selection of fader colours. And a None More Black variant, of course.



Speaking of small size, I've completely redesigned the Sidecar layout. It features my new iris-style stacked pan/width knobs:



It custom colours nicely, and has a sophisticated folder indentation / signal flow design that I think works well:



here's what all that stuff means:



I've based the redesigned Tracking Deck layout on the Sidecar:



and finally there are strip layouts. These have 'USER : mess with these:' sections in the WALTER so users can easily whip up variants:



Please enjoy. I might do another snapshot build once its further along, we'll see.
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Thank you so much! You just gave my studio a facelift! Some good news, indeed. Can't wait for the final release.
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Incredible work!!! Amazing!!!!
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Wow, I really love it!
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WT, Dude, this is beyond bitchin. I must say though, I definitely wish I had not seen it - a major tease indeed. Going to have to put this unreal theme out of my mind and check back in 6 months. Bravo, fuck yes!
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Strange how many mentioned that the original Imperial required a "big monitor" because the GUI required more real eastate. I have to say that with my 4k monitor, the new Imperial looks... too small. Many GUI elements are unreadable.
With upscaling, all that glory becomes blurry. :-(
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Old 12-02-2016, 03:41 PM   #33
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Strange how many mentioned that the original Imperial required a "big monitor" because the GUI required more real eastate. I have to say that with my 4k monitor, the new Imperial looks... too small. Many GUI elements are unreadable.
With upscaling, all that glory becomes blurry. :-(
The original theme said that it was designed for at least 1080p, but it didn't specifically mention an upper limit or intended resolution, if memory serves. 4K almost always has GUI scaling issues, though. I'm guessing that the author uses a 1440p monitor.
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The original theme said that it was designed for at least 1080p, but it didn't specifically mention an upper limit or intended resolution, if memory serves. 4K almost always has GUI scaling issues, though. I'm guessing that the author uses a 1440p monitor.
From http://www.houseofwhitetie.com/reape..._imperial.html :



As you said, no mention of an upper vertical limit.
It does want two screens though.

So this new theme will be fantastic, because I have but one monitor.
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Old 12-31-2016, 11:12 AM   #35
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Great work, The Only Reason i was not using Reaper? lack of comfort from the Default/Other skins !!!

Think if you Create some Default Set of the Skin, More Clear envelope Names, more Sets & Some user Manual for average users It Can be sold 20-50 $
************I'm Ready to pay for this skin when it will be finished. ************

THANKS FOR MAKING THE WORLD LITTLE BIT BETTER

And SHUT UP WHO'S CANT READ! ITS NOT EVER ALPHA VERSION SO DON'T F.. OUR BRAINS.
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Seriously, I wish WT a Break, aka White Tie.
I won't pre-judge but.. don't make me call Ivansc... he haaaaates/dislikes *------*!
But on the other side, WT must be superhuman mentally strong by now, jeeeez.

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((( I liked the original TCP track layout more... Sorry ((( "Someone has to put a spoon of dirt in the barrel of honey"
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((( I liked the original TCP track layout more... Sorry ((( "Someone has to put a spoon of dirt in the barrel of honey"
I loaded the theme and it seems TCP layouts have not been addressed yet.
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I loaded the theme and it seems TCP layouts have not been addressed yet.
Yes. See post #1 "it's just the mixer so far"
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Default Peak meters under fader and some other ideas

Just a thought that came to my mind, the Stockholm layout could feature a mode that under each fader, where now a green line is clearly shows the fader placement, it could have the peak meter instead. This is something that canot be done easily on hardware but fits the way this layout is made, with transparent faders and clear contrast and colors. I really really like what I see in this theme.

Also the idea of visible routing is pure genius, could that be added on the Stockholm layout as well?

Lastly, can I donate somewhere? You are doing a great work for all of us, I believe that there should be some kind of compensation for your work, and I'm not saying that this would promote this on an official product status requiring support and taking out any freedom your workflow might have. I'm just saying that it would be nice for me to be able to gift something for this, even if it's never finished!

Really, congratulations. Excellent work!
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