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Old 08-29-2020, 11:32 AM   #1
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Default v6.13+dev0829 - August 29 2020

v6.13+dev0829 - August 29 2020
  • + Razor edits: add settings to snap razor edits to media items and automation items
  • # Mixer: fix crash when right clicking empty space [p=2337114]
  • # Razor edit: better handling of drawing overlapping areas
  • # Razor edit: leave envelope value level when moving envelope areas
  • # Razor edit: remove mouse modifiers to edit one area only (if you have customized these mouse modifiers, they may now be scrambled)
  • # Razor edits: when stretching, adjust fade length only if the edge of the media item moves
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Old 08-29-2020, 12:39 PM   #2
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AI "minilanes" in media lane results in misplaced RE resize handle



1- create track with multiple params AI in the media lane, creating the minilanes
2- make RE selection on that track
3- move mouse to middle of RE selection
4- issue - resize handle appears at minilane break
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Old 08-29-2020, 12:48 PM   #3
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+ Razor edits: add settings to snap razor edits to media items and automation items
thanks! this is handling well
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Old 08-29-2020, 01:25 PM   #4
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[b]v6.13+dev0829 - August 29 [*]# Razor edit: remove mouse modifiers to edit one area only (if you have customized these mouse modifiers, they may now be scrambled)
Oh no why it's been removed?
Can't test it now, but this brought a lot of flexibility for many cases. Without them Razor Edit will become pretty limited rregarding copying or moving areas individualy..
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[*]# Razor edit: leave envelope value level when moving envelope areas
Working much better now. I understand that the current behaviour does fit what its description says, but I believe it is still not ideal when moving areas back in cases where the areas overlap:



Here is an example from another DAW:



The difference is, on the gif above the operation to initialize source area <----> target area happens after the move operation has been handled. As a natural result the end value of the source area gets used. Wanted to report even though I am aware that it is a hard problem to solve when updating areas live.
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Old 08-29-2020, 01:39 PM   #6
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BUG:

I can't enable the Swing mode at the midi window at the dropdown list anymore. (setting from there does nothing, like a glitch)
I can only enable it from snap/grid settings window.
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Envelopes are getting better thank you! Still that case above Birdy mentioned needs some love
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Oh no why it's been removed?
Can't test it now, but this brought a lot of flexibility for many cases. Without them Razor Edit will become pretty limited rregarding copying or moving areas individualy..
Indeed. It was a useful thing to have. Was it broken?
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Old 08-29-2020, 03:07 PM   #9
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Working much better now. I understand that the current behaviour does fit what its description says, but I believe it is still not ideal when moving areas back in cases where the areas overlap:



Here is an example from another DAW:



The difference is, on the gif above the operation to initialize source area <----> target area happens after the move operation has been handled. As a natural result the end value of the source area gets used. Wanted to report even though I am aware that it is a hard problem to solve when updating areas live.
I agree.
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I have all MIDI items in a track item in which lasso select (right click) in MIDI editor does no longer work. Notes simply don't get selected.

All other tracks seem to work.
Same if I copy the affected items to a different track.

Any hint to help to understand what it could be?

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Old 08-30-2020, 04:27 AM   #11
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[*]# Mixer: fix crash when right clicking empty space [p=2337114]
Confirmed, thanks
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strange behavior of Shift+Drag of time selection (if slowly didn't move)
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Old 08-30-2020, 05:38 AM   #13
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I have all MIDI items in a track item in which lasso select (right click) in MIDI editor does no longer work. Notes simply don't get selected.

All other tracks seem to work.
Same if I copy the affected items to a different track.

Any hint to help to understand what it could be?

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Closing and reopening the project didn't solve, restarting REAPER did... sigh...

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Old 08-30-2020, 05:43 AM   #14
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BUG:

I can't enable the Swing mode at the midi window at the dropdown list anymore. (setting from there does nothing, like a glitch)
I can only enable it from snap/grid settings window.
Hmm can't duplicate that, can you make a .gif or something?
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Old 08-30-2020, 02:09 PM   #15
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There is a diiferent handle on the selected track on the cursor.
is this intentional ?
i am using a portable version

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Closing and reopening the project didn't solve, restarting REAPER did... sigh...

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And now it's doing it again... two times.

Restarting REAPER fixes for a little while, then it seems it's back.

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Old 08-30-2020, 02:18 PM   #17
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Sorry mabian ,
i got confused.. let me check the issue you are talking about..i was atalking about swing quantize.

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It is working fine here, sorry i could not replicate this.

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Thanks for checking, here - too - it's happening only on one track... but I cannot see what's different there.

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@mabian ,
is this what you were trying to do and is not happening ?
what are your midi editor settings like ?
one editor for all items or each item opens up individually ?

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is this what you were trying to do and is not happening ?
what are your midi editor settings like ?
one editor for all items or each item opens up individually ?

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Exactly, notes don't get highlighted nor selected (I cannot even move them with shortcuts, so I'm sure it's not a visual thing only).

I have options set as one editor per track, and it's only happening on one track.

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Old 08-30-2020, 02:54 PM   #22
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Here is attached - zipped - the affected project.

I found it happens on all items on all tracks under the "battery" folder.

Also attached my reaper.ini file (from a portable version).

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There is a diiferent handle on the selected track on the cursor.
is this intentional ?
i am using a portable version

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[img snip]

I haven’t got that, I still have the “dot” on the last touched cursor. Portable install too...


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I haven’t got that, I still have the “dot” on the last touched cursor. Portable install too...


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Still have the dot as well, portable version too (the official one I've been using for years now).

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I haven’t got that, I still have the “dot” on the last touched cursor. Portable install too...
I think it depends on the theme used (default/custom).
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I’m on default theme, NF.

I’m not a themer, I don’t really touch that side of REAPER.

Do I need to be, to get the square bracket cursor?

Edit: do I need to delete something from the default v6 theme?


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Seems like hidden tracks started breaking copy/paste offset again:


(Maybe it is pasting that is not compensating for hidden tracks?)

Edit: I guess I should be using the old-style paste action here?
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Old 08-31-2020, 03:49 AM   #28
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Default Razor Edits Drawing Extra Lines over some tracks now

Hello.

I Downloaded the latest Pre-Release, and now Razor Edit seems to be drawing extra lines in the middle of tracks. It was not doing that on the previous version. Attaching a screen capture to demonstrate. Hope it helps...

Okay, I had to reduce and reduce and reduce the screenshot so that it would be small enough to upload, so it might be hard to see what's going on... I apologize

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Old 08-31-2020, 05:59 AM   #29
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hey sonictim, try using imgur.com to post images like that. the forum attachment feature is more useful for scripts, small rpps, etc rather than screenshots.
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I have all MIDI items in a track item in which lasso select (right click) in MIDI editor does no longer work. Notes simply don't get selected.
I noticed that with some items, e.g. items in track 18 (Battery/Main), your editor is set to Channel 8 (bottom right in ME) while the notes are in Channel 1. Setting ME to Channel 1 brings back the marquee select.
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I noticed that with some items, e.g. items in track 18 (Battery/Main), your editor is set to Channel 8 (bottom right in ME) while the notes are in Channel 1. Setting ME to Channel 1 brings back the marquee select.
Quite interesting, thanks, will check as soon as I can.

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Drawing areas on tracks, then hiding them does not clear their RE selections.
The RE actions do not run on hidden tracks, however the selections "stuck" on hidden tracks are still used in calculations.
Hence it breaks some actions like duplicate:
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Request for modifier:

Media item double click - Set Razor Selection to item
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Dunno if this is a bug or my duff setting, it never used to happen

If I record an item using TS auto-record, at the end of the TS, Reaper seems to write the new item to the end of the project before the edit cursor returns to the start of the TS for a new take. And Reaper's memory footprint skyrockets.

I only noticed because I've got 12 3-min songs in the one project and I end up with 30-minute takes. This doesn't happen with vanilla record.
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Hi, I experience a trail from the Edit Cursor, under following conditions;
– Auto-View-Scroll = On
– Cursor blink (Alternate color) = On

Trail doesn’t appear,
– when cursor_seltrack image is present in theme resources
– if not using alternate color for cursor

6.13GM (without the seltrack) is fine in all conditions, no trail.

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- haven’t checked on my Win VM install.


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I hope devs don't forget to put back multiple horizontal areas in razor edit .. just see the thread RE API scripts in this forum section and imagine how it wouuld hugely useful and creative
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Hi, I experience a trail from the Edit Cursor, under following conditions;
– Auto-View-Scroll = On
– Cursor blink (Alternate color) = On

Trail doesn’t appear,
– when cursor_seltrack image is present in theme resources
– if not using alternate color for cursor

6.13GM (without the seltrack) is fine in all conditions, no trail.

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Same experience here in Win10 PC with CPU integrated graphics. But not as many ghost trails as shown in your gif, and I'll have to do pretty quick mousewheel zoom back and forth to make it happen. Not a real usage condition for me, but it's there.
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Same experience here in Win10 PC with CPU integrated graphics. But not as many ghost trails as shown in your gif, and I'll have to do pretty quick mousewheel zoom back and forth to make it happen. Not a real usage condition for me, but it's there.
ok thanks. In regular arrangements where the scroll function last longer, trails are even more intense here.
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Quite interesting, thanks, will check as soon as I can.

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I noticed that with some items, e.g. items in track 18 (Battery/Main), your editor is set to Channel 8 (bottom right in ME) while the notes are in Channel 1. Setting ME to Channel 1 brings back the marquee select.
Thanks! You're totally right, I didn't know that the channel selector affected the selection. I set it on "All channels" and it worked.

Makes sense though.

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With this build I get an instant Reaper has Shut Down crash when i try to lower volume envelope segment within a time selection (shift drag Move envelope segment action) in an automation item. Happens every time with different media.


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Faulting application name: reaper.exe, version: 71.226.115.160, time stamp: 0x5f4a92fa
Faulting module name: reaper.exe, version: 71.226.115.160, time stamp: 0x5f4a92fa
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x00000000002eb453
Faulting process id: 0x4354
Faulting application start time: 0x01d68039306c239f
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\REAPER (x64)\reaper.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files\REAPER (x64)\reaper.exe
Report Id: 336726a7-4473-4529-95cf-a702d3179bde
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:

Win 10 x64 version

Previous 26 build doesnt crash



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