Modifier keys with midi buttons

[Vendetta V]

Here's the FR, please vote in there! http://forum.cockos.com/project.php?issueid=4936

The FR request is the ability to assign SHIFT CTRL ALT and may be combinations of those with a midi button/pad/key/cc/note/etc.

The modifier buttons to be used are on the actual computer keyboard not on midi.

The idea is that we often need several actions at our fingertips that are closely related such as 'nudge left by grid/nudge left', 'volume or pan control/finer control', 'pan control/width control', etc.

All these actions are present in Reaper but I don't have enough encoders (although I got 24) to afford two very closely related actions to go on two separate encoders. Nor do I have pads/buttons for that (only 8). Wish modifiers, it'd make the pads into a crazy amount.

Another example of how this would be used:
you have encoder 1 on jog/scrub. You hold shift and it's now jog/scrub fine control.

Also a midi record button, shift+record would stop the recording without saving the take. Ctrl+record would cycle thru record modes. alt+record would cylce thru automation modes. Ctrl+shift+record would toggle automatic record arm. Sooo many possibilities on a small controller!

[Troy]

That would actually be pretty cool. You could have a rotary encoder assigned to channel volume and assign shift+rotary to pan. It could really expand the function of the encoders on interfaces.

[DarkStar]

+1
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Just a wild thought:
Going further - "chord actions", and no need to go near the PC keyboard:

C0 + C1 invokes action A
...
C0 + B1 invokes action L
C#0 + C1 invokes action M
...
C#0 + B1 invokes action X

and so on, up to B0 +B1, for 144 triggerable actions

[Vendetta V]

Did you guys vote for the FR?


someone actually told me that it might be hard for a CC being a shift button and affecting others. Basically because they don't have on and off states.

idk. but I think with Reaper implmenting a shift+CC is gonna be easy and won't have anything to do with the midi controller. or have issues with some of the controllers.


Cmon guys, spread this around and lets get this implemented

[Banned]

+ 1000. I do this all the time using external tools (e.g. Max/MSP, Pure data).

[Vendetta V]

Hey Banned, the software you mentioned. Does any of them have such things like a modifier key on your keyboard+CC on your midi controller? If yeah then may be I should give them a try for the time being? Would it be hard to setup a function like this in Pure Data?



Also, I'm so glad this thread is getting some attention finally. I totally lost my hope until the first reply appeared and now we seem to have a few votes! Not so many bt still more than I was hoping already

[Win Conway]

Originally Posted by Vendetta V

someone actually told me that it might be hard for a CC being a shift button and affecting others. Basically because they don't have on and off states.

Silliest thing i have heard in years, lots of MIDI is sent via CC as On/Off
0 = Off
127 = On
Various MIDI controllers and indeed hardware receiving MIDI have used that format for a lot of years.

(Some even use 0-63 as Off and 64-127 as On)

[Vendetta V]

Originally Posted by gpunk_w

Silliest thing i have heard in years, lots of MIDI is sent via CC as On/Off
0 = Off
127 = On
Various MIDI controllers and indeed hardware receiving MIDI have used that format for a lot of years.

(Some even use 0-63 as Off and 64-127 as On)

exactly what I thought myself but then was thinking they were referring to buttons such as those on Faderport and idk why I thought it'd make sense :P