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05-12-2007, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by xackley
Expected in Reaper that the Solo overrides the Mute.
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no, i expect mute to override solo! so it's fine imo!
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05-12-2007, 05:29 PM
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#42
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ah, i got it wrong again. yes, when solo and mute are enabled both, solo should override mute.
so yes, it's a bug. track 6 should be heard in this case, right?
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05-12-2007, 06:20 PM
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Umm, the solo will override the mute on the same track, but a soloed track that has muted tracks sending to it, will still have those tracks muted, likewise a soloed track sending to a muted track will still have the muted track muted... does this make sense?
edit: err nm I think I duplicated.. hmm
Last edited by Justin; 05-12-2007 at 06:25 PM.
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05-12-2007, 06:42 PM
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yeah. seems to work now.
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05-12-2007, 06:52 PM
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OK
Are you continuing onto Meter display tonight?
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05-12-2007, 06:58 PM
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a little. http://reaper.fm/files/reaper1855_fr6.zip
has slightly better meter displays (and track item dimming for that matter, when applicable), and also fixed the solo overriding mute for track post-fader hardware outputs, too.
ok if you want to point out instances where the meters show stuff that is BLATANTLY wrong (as opposed to slightly wrong), that's fine.
An example of slightly wrong (which we'll not mess with for now), is if a folder has a track in it which is soloed, but the track's master/parent send is not set, the meter will still show the possibility of sound, etc..
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05-12-2007, 06:59 PM
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#48
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05-12-2007, 07:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
An example of slightly wrong (which we'll not mess with for now), is if a folder has a track in it which is soloed, but the track's master/parent send is not set, the meter will still show the possibility of sound, etc..
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puh. but seems it's this stuff that we need
looking at my template i see many things (meters not showing activity and channel-mute/solo-status not correctly) ...
sound is ok. visual feedback bad
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05-12-2007, 07:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dandruff
puh. but seems it's this stuff that we need
looking at my template i see many things (meters not showing activity and channel-mute/solo-status not correctly) ...
sound is ok. visual feedback bad
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umm, what do you show for a meter on a track that isn't routed anywhere, then?
hmm ok I can improve it some, anyway.. I guess I'll do that and post a build in a b it
Last edited by Justin; 05-12-2007 at 07:19 PM.
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05-12-2007, 07:26 PM
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ah
Build fr6 didn't do anything to fix the meters in my test project?
Edit: Soloing Tracks 1 and 2 displays NOT SOLOED on all the tracks feeding
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05-12-2007, 07:31 PM
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Here two examples to begin with:
Display-1.zip: missing levelmeter + wrong "not solo" status on track 2
Display-2.zip: missing "not solo" status on track 4 (because in the i/o-dialog, the receive is muted)
Last edited by Dstruct; 05-13-2007 at 02:00 PM.
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05-12-2007, 07:32 PM
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OT: I have had recurring problem running these sessions.
Often when I get done posting here, and return to reaper, the Media Items are remaining OFFLINE.
Not everytime, maybe 1/8 of the times.
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05-12-2007, 07:35 PM
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yeah, had this too. i've disabled this offline option for now. don't need it anyway (because i don't edit the media with external editors).
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05-12-2007, 07:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
umm, what do you show for a meter on a track that isn't routed anywhere, then?
hmm ok I can improve it some, anyway.. I guess I'll do that and post a build in a b it
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Ah this bring up an FR.
IO color/Icon coding for IO state
Not routed
Parent only
Parent and send
Send only
Same Idea as the different Icon/Colors that is used for the Automation Button
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05-12-2007, 09:25 PM
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On Audio Tracks inside a folder, Post Fader Sends are not being Muted when the Folder is muted.
This would mean that a reverb in an FX Track would continue playing when the primary Track sound is silent
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05-13-2007, 08:27 AM
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confirmed. nice spotted! bug.
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05-13-2007, 12:20 PM
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http://reaper.fm/files/reaper1855_fr7.zip
when things are routed through other things that are soloed, it should show better status, now...
I'll look at making folder mute mute the post-fader sends of all the children, too...
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05-13-2007, 12:48 PM
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FR 7 Looks good here.
OT: Earlier today I created a semi-weird template for Groove Agent 1 that crashes reaper when loading.
1: would the DR watson file and mini-dump be of any use to you
2: do you have Groove Agent 1, if not, I would think uploading the template wouldn't help.
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05-13-2007, 12:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xackley
FR 7 Looks good here.
OT: Earlier today I created a semi-weird template for Groove Agent 1 that crashes reaper when loading.
1: would the DR watson file and mini-dump be of any use to you
2: do you have Groove Agent 1, if not, I would think uploading the template wouldn't help.
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hmm well try sending me the template anyway, it might not be GA related...
does this template crash 1.855 release, or just these builds?
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05-13-2007, 12:59 PM
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fr8 was quick so it must have been easy.
So far, it appears everything is working and making sense.
You have taken a huge leap in building a firm foundation.
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05-13-2007, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Justin
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yep, works fine now!
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05-13-2007, 01:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dandruff
Here two examples to begin with:
Display-1.zip: missing levelmeter + wrong "not solo" status on track 2
Display-2.zip: missing "not solo" status on track 4 (because in the i/o-dialog, the receive is muted)
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"Display-1" working fine now! But "Display-2" not ...
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05-13-2007, 01:34 PM
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I re-saved the tracks to template while in the orignal 1.855 to a new template named TEST2.
FR8 doesnot crash with TEST2.
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05-13-2007, 01:53 PM
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ok http://reaper.fm/files/reaper1855_fr9.zip
fixed the crash, now the display takes into account muted status of sends, too.. this should fix the "display2" one I think
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05-13-2007, 02:04 PM
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Loaded the template.
Miller time.
gone with family for a few hours.
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05-13-2007, 02:08 PM
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ok guys well test a bit more and then if it seems good all around we'll release it
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05-13-2007, 02:18 PM
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yeah, i've tested in my procucing-template and it seems to be fine! many thanks again!
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05-22-2007, 07:15 PM
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Recording and input monitoring
In my test project
Record enable track 5 and/or 6
Enable Input monitoring.
result
Eratic meters (with or without Input Monitoring enabled)
No sound thru the chain.
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05-23-2007, 02:25 AM
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can't see anything wrong there!?
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