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05-06-2007, 09:36 PM
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Post-Fader FX on Master Track
plain and simple. I really need Post-Fader effects on the master track, this has been bugging me for months. heck lets put Post-fader effects on every track. What do you guys think?
How about we stick it in the fx chain windows as a post-fader item that can be drug up and down just like an effect to give the post fader effects position. I was thinking of something like this
Of course, this won't be limited to just the master track
Last edited by Magoostus; 07-06-2008 at 09:07 AM.
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05-07-2007, 05:37 AM
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Use "Volume (Pre FX)" in the automation envelopes and a pre FX fader appears.
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05-07-2007, 08:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art Evans
Use "Volume (Pre FX)" in the automation envelopes and a pre FX fader appears.
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Thats neat, and it works, but that fader is not reachable from the mixer portion, which is what i'm using.
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05-07-2007, 09:28 AM
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Enter the "chip channel strip" in v 2.0
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05-07-2007, 02:25 PM
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It's only visible when automation in in read, touch, latch or write. Try it in Latch first.
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05-07-2007, 03:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art Evans
It's only visible when automation in in read, touch, latch or write. Try it in Latch first.
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um... yeah i see it there and it works great, but i'm talking post-fader and post-pan effects for bit depth reduction and maximizers.
...maybe I'm missing something?
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05-11-2007, 10:19 PM
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Magoostus is right
Post fader, post everything effect slot is important to be able to keep the master bus headroom and use a compressor/limiter on the overall mix.
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05-11-2007, 10:52 PM
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Thank Zee. It's good to know that i'm not alone on this.
How about we stick it in the fx chain windows as a post-fader item that can be drug up and down just like an effect to give the post fader effects position. I was thinking of something like this
Of course, this won't be limited to just the master track
Last edited by Magoostus; 05-11-2007 at 11:08 PM.
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05-11-2007, 10:54 PM
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Use the JS volume effect and you can do exactly that - or Sonalksis FreeG VST fader if you want something more sexy.
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05-11-2007, 11:25 PM
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justification
oh, i love the JS volume utility, it fantastic. but its not quite the same. see, if i bump the track volume fader by accident. i'll ruin the bit-depth reduction. and yeah, i can use the volume utility, but i have to keep the window open all the time and that takes up space. or put all these automation lines on my track view that makes it all cluttered
ya see, with this method, it will be more simple and secure. its a more rock-solid method of using post-fader effects.
(maybe this should go in the nitpick category)
Last edited by Magoostus; 05-11-2007 at 11:27 PM.
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05-11-2007, 11:59 PM
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the JS stuff is fantastic. as are all the offerings from the talented folks contributing more than bigfinds and gripes.
But, I am beginning to feel like JS is a crutch. especially for midi. It makes it more difficult to get a sense of what's going on.
Post fader FX would be stellar, and enable us to thin out the track counts. What's the problem there? this is the land of Uber-Routing right? So let's have it. If js are that killer pre fader imagine what could be accomplished with the option to put them pre or post.
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05-12-2007, 12:19 AM
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And once again +1.
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05-14-2007, 02:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magoostus
Of course, this won't be limited to just the master track
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+1
+1
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05-14-2007, 02:39 PM
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Yes this is important for mastering!
+1
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05-14-2007, 03:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magoostus
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Again +1! Exactly as I always suggested, but the "-=Post-Fader=-" should be a proper seperator ... .
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05-14-2007, 06:19 PM
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yeah
I'm curious as too what the complexity level for this feature to be added on would be
Lets all whip out our "+1" guns
Last edited by Magoostus; 05-14-2007 at 06:24 PM.
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05-14-2007, 06:24 PM
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No way around it +1,5
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05-14-2007, 07:09 PM
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the picture by Magoostus is exactly how I would like it to be ! Great idea ! +100 !
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05-14-2007, 08:38 PM
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That would be great! Plus 1
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05-15-2007, 12:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magoostus
Thank Zee. It's good to know that i'm not alone on this.
How about we stick it in the fx chain windows as a post-fader item that can be drug up and down just like an effect to give the post fader effects position. I was thinking of something like this
Of course, this won't be limited to just the master track
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And ++1 for me too.....
hm
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05-15-2007, 04:25 AM
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Mortal
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You could always just rename FreeG to "Post Fader" and there you are. Or am I missing the point (quite possibly)?
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05-15-2007, 04:32 AM
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Yeh,in Cubendo the last two slots in the mixer channel inserts are post fader for this very reason.
+1
MC
Last edited by norbury brook; 05-15-2007 at 05:00 AM.
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06-05-2007, 12:47 PM
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Wow,
I love this idea, and I am glad you guys have been promoting it before I suggested a superset of it today. I just called it Magic Slots temporarily, I know it sounds funny..
What do you guys think about all the other things these Magic Slots could do in the FX stack? They can simplify and enhance the Track Sends, Output Recording, having different Monitors FX and Recording FX, and parallel FX chains.. All these Pre, Post implementation details through out REAPER can be reduced with this idea.
You can read about it here:
http://www.cockos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10035
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06-05-2007, 02:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art Evans
Use "Volume (Pre FX)" in the automation envelopes and a pre FX fader appears.
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nice workaround - and sending to another track (I am becoming predisposed to unnessisarily large track counts).
Except my recent encounters with automation lave left me gun-shy.
I'd prefer post fader FX. I am feeling the workaround is not congruent with workflow.
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06-10-2007, 04:12 AM
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Just a small bump, 'cause we all know we want it.
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06-28-2008, 10:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LOSER
Just a small bump, 'cause we all know we want it.
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Yeah I'm with you there, a bump is badly needed.
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06-28-2008, 11:03 AM
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If the Magoostus suggestion is feasible that would be awesome!!!!!!
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06-28-2008, 11:30 AM
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yes!! +1
thanx art e. I use free g and it works. but i would like to have the MIXER db-METERS in pre/post-plugin or pre-fader (optional) view, so if I pull down my fader I still can see the incoming signal as in the js volume utility.
possible? anyone knows..?
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06-28-2008, 12:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kainer
but i would like to have the MIXER db-METERS in pre/post-plugin or pre-fader (optional) view, so if I pull down my fader I still can see the incoming signal as in the js volume utility.
possible? anyone knows..?
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I use this one:
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/vb-audio...ptool_v1_i.htm
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06-28-2008, 12:19 PM
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+1
Should be concidered standard.
Shogger
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07-06-2008, 09:08 AM
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bump
bump +1 i hope justin considers this
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10-13-2008, 09:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magoostus
bump +1 i hope justin considers this
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Schwa already said it's coming eventually.
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11-04-2008, 06:25 AM
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++1 for a good idea.
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06-06-2019, 02:38 AM
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+1 Very important for mastering!
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06-06-2019, 01:34 PM
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I hope this being requested multiple times over 12 years or so might merit some consideration. Post-Fader FX are critical for many different types of workflows. That's why it keeps being requested over and over.
Similar current thread:
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=181450
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