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07-19-2007, 05:05 PM
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1877: Crazy Horse's last battle with the US Cavalry
REAPER 1.877
- fixed mouse bug with vertical faders in plug-ins
- better support for large number of tracks on small screens in routing dialog
- added workaround for hangs during minimize with video items
better normalization peak detection
- small pngs (w less than 3) for button images will no longer be drawn
- fx chain: you can now set each effect to "offline" to unload it from RAM *
- fx chain: fixed keyboard shortcut displays on context menu
* works fine, but ctrl + alt + B doesn't make it happen.
Last edited by alex zonder; 07-19-2007 at 05:22 PM.
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07-19-2007, 07:04 PM
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Damn that's smart thinking!
Really pleased we now have a plug-in offline setting - cos I always like to "Apply FX" to turn MIDI parts into audio in final mixes, but want to keep the VSTis around in the chain just in case I need them again.
I do like the idea of the little "zzz" icon but since I do a lot of A-Bing of compression & EQ by toggling the checkbox I've found myself accidentally putting plugs offline a number of times already tonight.
Previously I was forever accidentally floating the plugin windows but unfortunately now I have to click & wait for it to come back online which is more of a hassle.
I'm not really sure the "click for one thing, double-click for another" feels very friendly/REAPER-style.
Maybe clicking the checkbox with a modifier could do the offline routine.. or alternatively a modifier could do a simple bypass toggle for those wanting to go quickly on & off?
Hope this sounds like lateral & practical thinking - I'd be interested to hear other opinions.
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07-19-2007, 07:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alex zonder
ctrl + alt + B doesn't make it happen.
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CTRL+ALT+B is working fine here
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Originally Posted by drew
Previously I was forever accidentally floating the plugin windows
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at least this one is solved now for me
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07-19-2007, 07:43 PM
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OT: is reaper install downloading slower now, or has roadrunner reduced my bandwidth. For the last couple of weeks, It has been taking about 20 times longer to down load.
thanks
don
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07-19-2007, 07:47 PM
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hmmm
Please detail who your ISP is and if you use any download programs.
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07-19-2007, 08:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marketing
Please detail who your ISP is and if you use any download programs.
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roadrunner, and no downlad programs, just Firefox with no download extensions.
On topic, I just zzz jamstix, and reaper crashed. When i brought reaper back up, and tried again, it didn't crash on zzz, but did when I accidentally floated it, and then clicked on the X to Un-Float.
Also when messing with jamstix the Unload and disable in the FX\Edit menu did not work, but double click the check mark did work.
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07-19-2007, 08:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by drew
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Maybe clicking the checkbox with a modifier could do the offline routine.. or alternatively a modifier could do a simple bypass toggle for those wanting to go quickly on & off?
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Good point.. I think I'll make ctrl+click checkbox do offline toggle, and have doubleclicking a checkbox count as two single clicks...
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07-19-2007, 09:00 PM
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That'd be fantastic Justin - nice to be able to flick a plug on/off without worrying about doing it too fast!
Cheers for all the recent developments.. I finally sold my ProTools HD2 and didn't shed a tear. I also haven't touched Cubase for months - all thanks to REAPER's unstoppable rise!
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07-19-2007, 11:36 PM
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I'm thinking of naming my first born Reaper... Perhaps... Justin Reaper...
He he, no seriously, you're still doing a stellar job Justin, thanks for all the hard work man!
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07-20-2007, 04:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alex zonder
REAPER 1.877
- fx chain: [B]you can now set each effect to "offline" to unload it from RAM
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Thank you thank you thank you Justin
This is really great and MUCH appreciated
Cheers
Jed
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07-20-2007, 10:39 AM
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jepp, that offline feature is great !!! thx a lot.
and small buttons arent draw also
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07-20-2007, 02:29 PM
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Can I just ask one question (bear with me I am new to this!) what is the difference between offlining a plugin and clicking the fx off button on each individual track?
Cheers
RIch
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07-20-2007, 02:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cb8rwh
Can I just ask one question (bear with me I am new to this!) what is the difference between offlining a plugin and clicking the fx off button on each individual track?
Cheers
RIch
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clicking the fx off button bypasses the whole fx chain, but doesn't unload all the RAM that the fx have loaded (which can be huge for a sample library player, etc). Offlining the plugin frees up all the resources the plugin was using, and then when you online it again it has to re-initialize and reload its state.
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07-20-2007, 03:33 PM
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Thanks for the routing dialog on large numbers of tracks fix. I'll be enjoying very soon I'm sure.
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07-20-2007, 03:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
Good point.. I think I'll make ctrl+click checkbox do offline toggle, and have doubleclicking a checkbox count as two single clicks...
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Justin, do you think that you could add a ctrl click to the FX on/off icon on the TCP and MCP gui that would offline all the plugins in that chain?
AND! possibly a right click on that icon that would pop-out a context menu that would offer us the choice of offlining or onlining any FX from a list with all as one of the options? That would be uberkiller!
Also, I noticed better marker/tempo marker behaviour with this update... am i imagining that or did you fix some things?
Last edited by Tallisman; 07-20-2007 at 03:40 PM.
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07-20-2007, 04:30 PM
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That new offline feature is great for EZ Drummer, once I've rendered the audio I can keep EZ in the project but with the ram disabled...just in case I need to change something later.
Excellent move!
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07-21-2007, 12:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
clicking the fx off button bypasses the whole fx chain, but doesn't unload all the RAM that the fx have loaded (which can be huge for a sample library player, etc). Offlining the plugin frees up all the resources the plugin was using, and then when you online it again it has to re-initialize and reload its state.
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Thanks for the explanation. I thought thats what the FX off button did, DOH!
This will be very useful indeed.
Cheers
Rich
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