01-22-2022, 10:38 AM | #1 |
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I'm giving linux a go......HELP!!!!
I must be a masochist or something but yesterday I installed Manjaro on mu old HP i7 quad core elite book.
Some now I managed to get Reaper install along with jack and a real time kernel. And to my surprise my steinberg UR22c was recognised and seems to work. I fired up a 24 track reaper project and was taken a back ow instantly it opened ...it was instant..BAM.... It aslo played back beautifully at 32 sample buffer..which reaper was showing as less than 1ms latency.....impressed this was all good then.,.... I wanted to try the linux version of Pianoteq. So I tried the Package manager and saw it was there but it failed to install. I opened up the code and it said it had to be downloaded from the website. i did this. I then extracted the zip and it would seem I needed to place the folders/files in various places . The Lv2 in the usr/lib/lv2 folder and the vst in the vst one. I could not do this though as every time I copied the files I couldn't paste them in the places i wanted. I didn'tt have permission...how do I do this? is this even the correct way to install this. I tried some of the harrison plugins from the Pacage manager but none of them installed.... so I've spent all day today just trying to install a piano plugin....to no avail. HELP M
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01-22-2022, 12:18 PM | #2 |
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why don't you make a directory for plugins in the home directory and set a path in the reaper? you don|t need root privilegies here
For pianoteq, just copy the Pianoteq 7.lv2 directory to the directory where the reaper is looking for plugins and that's no problem. I have all my plugins in the home directory in the .vst, .lv2 or .vst3 directories. |
01-22-2022, 12:58 PM | #3 |
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The locations you should use for most LV2, VST, and VST3 plugins is your home folder followed by,
/.lv2 /.vst /.vst3 and the dot makes those folders hidden unless you un-hide them on the view menu of the Thunar file browser. Once you have those folders created, you can start dumping plugins into them and REAPER will pick them up on the next startup. Just make sure that you only put native Linux plugin in those folders. If you try to use Windows plugins, those need to be installed in the pseudo C: drive that WINE creates, and then bridged using Yabridge. I have the LV2 demo of Pinaoteq installed, and just copied it into my .lv2 plugin folder. |
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After some googling I managed via terminal to move it using sudo cp -r I suppose that's a good linux lesson to learn though M
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On you recommendation I tried to install the free Ardour B3 but it threw an error trying to install through the Package manager. do I just copy and paste like I managed with pianoteq if I direct download? Also, is it me or is this linux/reaper thing a better performer than windows? on first try everything is amazingly snappy and running at 32 samples is amazing M
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01-22-2022, 01:27 PM | #6 |
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also: Is there a performance/latency hit using windows VST via wine etc?
I'm thinking of perhaps using this laptop/linux laptop live if it proves reliable and need to find either Native versions of Omnisphere or something similar or bridge via wine. M
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I didn't mess with the VSTi version, since LV2 is opensource and VST is Steinberg controlled. I used to dual boot Win7/Linux and saw identical performance, but that was Win7 that had been gone through with unneeded services disabled, and other tweaks. It would not surprise me if when comparing a fresh Win10/Win11 install to a fresh Linux install there is a significant difference in performance running REAPER. |
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make sure you instal cmatrix
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I even did this song using nothing but Windows VSTi plugins, just to see if I could stress my system out, but I ran out of ideas for more parts/tracks before the machine started showing any signs of stress. That song has Superior Drummer 2 (played from my V-Drums pad kit), five instances of Kontakt, three instances of Guitar Rig (on virtual Kontakt guitars and basses), Native Instruments B4 Organ, Arturia MiniMoog V, ToonTrack EZ-Keys Wurlitzer, and Emu Proteus VX clavinette plus Bag-o-Tricks drums. |
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WINE is not an emulator. It is a clean rewrite of Windows APIs and allows Windows apps to run natively on Linux. There shouldn’t be any difference in performance.
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At least I am having fun doing primarily audio recordings with it...
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01-23-2022, 10:33 AM | #12 |
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well I've managed to install wine and Yabridge however I don't seem to have the correct folder structure Yabridge seems to expect i.e I don't have a folder @ .vst/yabridge-steinberg/VstPlugins/ I just have a .vst/yabridge-steinberg weird file not a folder. I did drop a .dll vst file in thee .vst folder and did a 'yabridgectl sync' and it created a .so file but it threw an error up in Reaper somehow .
not really sure what's going on there.... However... my wine install did mean I could install a windows .exe vst plugin I'd downloaded and that works perfectly... so what's the deal with Yaybridge? is it working 'partly' do I need it? M
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~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/VSTPlugins/ The .vst folder in your home folder is for native Linux plugins and not for Windows plugins. Quote:
You need to tell Yabridge where your Windows plugins are installed with a command like this. yabridgectl add /home/glennbo/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/VSTPlugins/ Then run yabridgectl sync which will build all the .so files for each of the .dll plugin files you've installed. Lastly, in the VST section of REAPER you need to add the path to where your Windows plugins are, which again should be something like this. ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/VSTPlugins/ REAPER will then pickup all the .so files that point to the .dll files, and the Windows plugins will work. |
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thanks Glenn. The fact that when I installed from a windows .exe and it worked means it mus be OK. I haven't added the wine directory to reaper though. I'll plough on do you know if ilok manager works under wine? M
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