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04-11-2020, 12:40 PM
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v6.08+dev0411 - April 11 2020
v6.08+dev0411 - April 11 2020
- + Audio Units: fix issues with plug-in manufacturer names that begin with an opening bracket
- + MIDI editor: add option to display notation text in piano roll [t=234286]
+ Prevent actions from explorer/finder triggering while copying files [t=231954]
- + ReaNINJAM: improve keyboard handling of chat window
- + Ruler: display grid properly with very long measures [t=234218]
- + macOS: improve keyboard navigation in various windows
This thread is for pre-release features discussion. Use the Feature Requests forum for other requests.
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04-11-2020, 12:41 PM
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04-11-2020, 01:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by _Stevie_
+ MIDI editor: add option to display notation text in piano roll [ t=234286]
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Needs a bit of adjusting for when the color changes.
I don't think this is a good behavior. Text that goes outside of note rectangle should either separately be recolored to match the background of piano roll, or be trimmed and not shown at all.
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04-11-2020, 03:50 PM
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If we can not get interval based lines from note center to note center in piano roll, can we get at least interval based note coloring?
see for more explanation of the line method, https://github.com/michaelsjackson/r...orums/issues/1
The note color method would use any default color for first note, then next notes color would depend on the interval difference to previous note. According to the image I have given in above link, same as in MusicGraph for example, per midi channel, of course.
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04-11-2020, 06:04 PM
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Thank you!
+ MIDI editor: add option to display notation text in piano roll [t=234286]
This is a fantastic addition!
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04-11-2020, 07:20 PM
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ReaNINJAM: improve keyboard handling of chat window
The chat window is still displayed the same way on my end, still no way to navigate through the messages with the arrow keys or select text. Would it be helpful if I had someone try to record a video of how the screen reader interprets the window? I know several other blind ninjam users and at least one of them has a way to capture what is visually on screen.
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04-11-2020, 08:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pcx901
ReaNINJAM: improve keyboard handling of chat window
The chat window is still displayed the same way on my end, still no way to navigate through the messages with the arrow keys or select text. Would it be helpful if I had someone try to record a video of how the screen reader interprets the window? I know several other blind ninjam users and at least one of them has a way to capture what is visually on screen.
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Hmm it is a text control (richedit on Windows), you should be able to use the arrow keys and hold shift to select text? but if there's something in particular we can do, I'd be happy to.. Just not sure what the proper way of exposing it to the screen reader is.
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04-11-2020, 09:08 PM
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Very interesting. I just did some more experimenting. NVDA literally will not read any of the text even though I can scroll, it just makes no sound at all. However I loaded up a very old version of JAWS (9.0, current version is 20 I think!) and that reads all the text and allows me to scroll. I can also now select with either of these screen readers, the trick is not to do control+A which will jump to the box where you type in text; using shift and the arrows or page up/down works perfectly. Bottom line is this will definitely work for us now. I'll have to play around with NVDA some more to see why it refuses to read anything, but if an old reader from a decade ago can read it, then certainly the newer tech should be able to.
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04-12-2020, 12:03 PM
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Wow! Thank you for that.
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+ MIDI editor: add option to display notation text in piano roll
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04-12-2020, 12:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilDragon
Needs a bit of adjusting for when the color changes.
I don't think this is a good behavior. Text that goes outside of note rectangle should either separately be recolored to match the background of piano roll, or be trimmed and not shown at all.
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I don't think trimming would be a good idea. What If the notes are staccato? Would want to see the text anyway. At any zoom level, the lyrics are a cue to where we're at in the song.
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04-12-2020, 12:54 PM
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Good point. So the text color should invert outside of the note in effort to retain full readability.
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04-12-2020, 03:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilDragon
Good point. So the text color should invert outside of the note in effort to retain full readability.
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Or get an inverted color shadow/border.
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04-12-2020, 05:44 PM
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Yeah but we can read the lyrics well on a light background theme.
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04-13-2020, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by krahosk
Yeah but we can read the lyrics well on a light background theme.
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Not everyone uses those, for various reasons Things should work and be readable across the board no matter what theme is being used.
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04-13-2020, 09:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by _Stevie_
+ Ruler: display grid properly with very long measures [ t=234218]
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While we are on the Ruler, may I ask for something?
Now the grid looks like this:
There is still a lot of place for more bars between. Can we please have more shown bars numbers like this? Perhaps some option or parameter to show more/less bars numbers.
Last edited by vitalker; 04-13-2020 at 01:56 PM.
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04-13-2020, 10:19 AM
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Agreed with the above.
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04-13-2020, 12:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vitalker
Why we are on the Ruler, may I ask for something?
Now the grid looks like this:
There is still a lot of place for more bars between. Can we please have more shown bars numbers like this? Perhaps some option or parameter to show more/less bars numbers.
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Agree with this one too! That one's tripped me up a few times.
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04-13-2020, 12:59 PM
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Oh yes, count me in, as well.
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04-13-2020, 02:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vitalker
While we are on the Ruler, may I ask for something?
Now the grid looks like this:
There is still a lot of place for more bars between. Can we please have more shown bars numbers like this? Perhaps some option or parameter to show more/less bars numbers.
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Second one looks cluttered. I much prefer first one.
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04-13-2020, 02:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sonicowl
Second one looks cluttered. I much prefer first one.
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That's why I asked for an OPTION.
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04-13-2020, 03:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vitalker
While we are on the Ruler, may I ask for something?
Now the grid looks like this:
There is still a lot of place for more bars between. Can we please have more shown bars numbers like this? Perhaps some option or parameter to show more/less bars numbers.
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Makes all the sense in the world. I miss 2, 4, 6, 8 etc.
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04-13-2020, 06:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vitalker
While we are on the Ruler, may I ask for something?
Now the grid looks like this:
There is still a lot of place for more bars between. Can we please have more shown bars numbers like this? Perhaps some option or parameter to show more/less bars numbers.
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+1 from me!
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04-13-2020, 10:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sonicowl
Second one looks cluttered. I much prefer first one.
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No it looks perfectly fine and is more in line of what people coming from most other DAWs would expect.
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04-13-2020, 11:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vitalker
While we are on the Ruler, may I ask for something?
Now the grid looks like this:
There is still a lot of place for more bars between. Can we please have more shown bars numbers like this? Perhaps some option or parameter to show more/less bars numbers.
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+1 from me!
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04-14-2020, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Loulou92
Makes all the sense in the world. I miss 2, 4, 6, 8 etc.
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Numbers please. It's like reading half measures without.
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04-14-2020, 02:08 AM
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If there should be space, then there could be time using smaller fonts as well. Having then both, measures + time. 23.4 s, one position after the point precision would be enough. Or a la youtube 1m 23.4s. Or just using for minutes a bit bigger font, and a different color, then m and s can be omitted, saving again horizontal space. Simplifying.
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04-14-2020, 09:56 AM
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Displaying notation text is very useful to indicate custom articulations. Thank you!
Now if we could insert a specific note pitch at a position relative to a selected note (creating a keyswitch) we would have integrated articulation mapping in Reaper.
Last edited by krahosk; 04-14-2020 at 10:04 AM.
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04-14-2020, 10:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vitalker
While we are on the Ruler, may I ask for something?
Now the grid looks like this:
There is still a lot of place for more bars between. Can we please have more shown bars numbers like this? Perhaps some option or parameter to show more/less bars numbers.
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+1 from me too.
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04-14-2020, 03:37 PM
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Bug in prerelease 0414 - Incorrect timestamp on Render with Embed Metadata
Hello,
I've been playing around with the new Metadata feature in the Render window. I create a lot of sounds in reaper and then send them to another DAW for delivery. I've noticed if I check the Embed Metadata feature, it no longer embeds the correct timestamp (preferred position) of the sound I rendered, whereas if I leave it unchecked, it behaves correctly.
I work in hours:minutes:seconds:frames (for film). My session starts at 00:58:00:00. So if I create a sound at 01:24:00:00 and render it normally, the timestamp matches the timecode on my timeline when I import that file into my other DAW. With the "embed metadata" checked, the same sound with the same render has a timestamp of 00:27:00:00. This implies to me that it is stamping it with the distance from the start of the session, not matching the actual time I have it cut at.
As this is a prerelease, I thought I'd mention this bug as this feature breaks an important function. I'm new to forum posting so If I've posted in the wrong spot, my apologies, please move to where it needs to go.
I found this bug in prerelease 0409, and tested it again and found it in 0414.
Thanks!
Last edited by sonictim; 04-14-2020 at 03:39 PM.
Reason: providing more information about where I found the bug
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04-14-2020, 04:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sonictim
I've noticed if I check the Embed Metadata feature, it no longer embeds the correct timestamp (preferred position) of the sound I rendered
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Fixing, thanks for the report!
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04-14-2020, 04:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sonictim
Hello,
As this is a prerelease, I thought I'd mention this bug as this feature breaks an important function. I'm new to forum posting so If I've posted in the wrong spot, my apologies, please move to where it needs to go.
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This is exactly the right spot for posting pre-release-related bug-reports. So no need to apologize
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09-07-2020, 01:50 PM
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+ MIDI editor: add option to display notation text in piano roll [t=234286]
for some reason I can't see the notation text in the piano roll midi notes after turning this on.
any idea?
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