Old 04-06-2009, 11:28 PM   #1
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Default Reaper 3 Beta MAC Bugs only

Greetings to all.

I thought it would be handy to collect current Mac Beta bugs in one spot.
Some of these will no doubt exist on the pc side, but please only post those that are confirmed (or reproducible) on a mac build. Note this is not the place to complain about missing features. It is the place to report implemented features that are broken.

Also please include the following for kicks and giggles:

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Mac Hardware (macbook, imac, mac pro, Hackintosh)
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steps to reproduce the errant behaviour (if applicable)
Screenshots and video (if you care to)
and workaround to bide the time, you have have found any.

thanks for your help

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Old 04-06-2009, 11:59 PM   #2
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Reproduce:
cmd+Z after you apply quantization
won't undo quantize while quantize window is open, but will undo other things. Things like the midi track recording I just did 15 takes on. also, "can't redo" a midi take that has been "undo-ed." FML.
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Old 04-07-2009, 12:25 AM   #3
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Default customize main toolbar

Mac OSX Leopard 10.5.2
Hackintosh q6600 Vanilla Kernel 9.2.2
Confirmed on a Genuine iMac 10.5.6
Reaper 3.beta.2

It is impossible to Customize the Main Tool bar and map a custom icon to an action from the Action List.



No matter how you try to select one of the unmapped entries labelled hide, the editor jumps back to the first entry (which defaults to File Open).

easily reproduced:
1. right-click or control click in the space next to the the toolbar icons
2. scroll down and select a blank entry labelled hide.
3. from the drop-down menu select customize.
- 3a. note that the action window open, and the filter works, but you are not able to select any action from the list.

How I have worked around this:
I opened my pc Reaper.ini, selected and copied all of the toolbar entries, and pasted them into the the mac Reaper.ini. Upon reopening Reaper, all my custom toolbar Icons and action were available and working as expected.

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Old 04-07-2009, 12:45 AM   #4
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Default AU Settings

Reaper does not save AU settings.

I tested with Linuxsampler AU Plugin.

After reloading a project the plugin is still insered but no samples are loaded. Midi settings are also gone. Since Linuxsamper settings are saved within Logic and Ableton Live this seems to be a Reaper problem.


It seems that AU in general does not work as well as VST does.


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Leopard 10.5.5

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Old 04-07-2009, 12:48 AM   #5
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Default Window size

Some windows are cut off e.g. the midi filter window/dialog. Or in other words the displayed window is somtimes to small for the displayed elements and cuts them off.
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Same Hack system as above.



Note the Options-->Record Mode: Normal

If Record Mode = Autopunch Time Selection, then the loop end point is correct.
If Record Mode = Autopunch Selected Item (and no Item is selected) then the loop point is placed incorrectly.

Reproduce:

1. creat 3 midi tracks
2. make a loop selection and enable cycle/repeat on the transport
3. Set Options Record mode to normal or auto-punch Selected items
4. begin recording
5. stop recording and notice where the loop end point is.

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Old 04-07-2009, 02:07 AM   #7
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various issues with odd plugin behavior on render. unloaded samples from machfive, and somehow made vibeEQ mute any track it was applied to when I attempted to render. deleting vibeEQ and undoing the delete fixed it, but it's still impossible to render because it happens on render.
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Old 04-07-2009, 02:08 AM   #8
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tools tips that should display at the bottom of the screen...
don't they are off screen.

reproduce by:

1. make sure you are running with Reaper large or maximized, dock hidden.
2. make a time selection
3. hover over the last of the selection text-boxes...

the tooltip will pop-up, but off screen


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Old 04-07-2009, 04:29 AM   #9
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Good idea Tali!

Hackintosh, 10.5.5. Intel Q6600. Latest beta.

You cannot map special characters, in the action mapping area.
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:33 AM   #10
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iMac 24" 3.06GHz Late 2008
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1) POD Farm 1.03 AU shows blank white plugin area when starting up. You have to toggle the UI to get it to show.

2) POD Farm 1.03 AU corrupts the screen display outside of Reaper's client area, looks like from screen offset 0,0 to (PF.width,PF,height). Blank white again.

3) POD Farm 1.03 VST shows blank white plugin area when starting, eventually repaints when events trigger it (mouse move, etc).

4) POD Farm 1.03 VST buttons and menus do not function. Switching to presets, selecting an effect from dropdown, enabling dual FX chains are all impossible. Knobs work, dragging amps and effects also work.

POD Farm works as intended in Live and GarageBand. Even Audacity.

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Old 04-07-2009, 07:51 AM   #11
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Tiny quibbles:

a tiny sliver of desktop is visible on the left edge of the screen in full-screen mode.

ReaControlMidi opens in a window that is too narrow..
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:00 AM   #12
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This bug:
In OSX version, when windows with controls are docked (eg FX browser), and the docker is resized, the window is not redrawn and visual trails of all of the controls are visible. Works fine in 2.58.
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:06 AM   #13
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these have been discussed but here they are in a simple form...

select track - show docker - press command-? - system alert sound

select track - show docker - hide docker - invoke any command from the keyboard - system alert sound
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:33 AM   #14
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osx 10.5.6

fade-in mouse cursor is an ibeam, not the reaper fade in graphic.







*Confirmed: http://screencast.com/t/ygaCpPC1Uw
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:22 AM   #15
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hi everyone

macbook pro, 2.5GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4gb RAM, os x 10.5.6

- after inserting AUi Spectrasonics Trilogy (wrapper for intel) everything works fine until saving-quitting-restarting Reaper. Then it will crash at loading the song. same problem in v2.58

- when editing midi item i can't change velocity of the first note in the bottom lane of the editor

- when i move the fade-out handle of an audio item all the way to the left, then this handle disappears. to change the fade-out back i have to move the fade-in handle - which by the way looks like a vertical text edit cursor - to far right and then move it back to far left, this way both fade-outs get removed from the item. i hope it's not meant to be this way cause it's quite illogical

- when loading any ohmboyz plugin it shows as a white space, after i click in that area it shows normally

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Old 04-07-2009, 03:10 PM   #16
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osx 10.5.6

fade-in mouse cursor is an ibeam, not the reaper fade in graphic.
In a similar vein, I find that often the cursor doesn't, or at least doesn't immediately, change to the right graphic in several areas. I usually just click and hope. The velocity handle on the notes in the midi editors, the edges of an item in the track window, and the track resizing area between tracks in the track window are three that spring to mind.

It's been mentioned many times in the main bug threads, but I may as well confirm for the mac version that you can't grab the left edge of a midi note close to the edge of an item in the in-line midi editor. The whole note needs to be dragged away from the item edge first.

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screenie:
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cmd+scroll to resize the tracks when the master track is present bounces all the tracks around really fast and makes it difficult to tell how much resizing you are accomplishing. it almost looks like you are showing and hiding the master track really really fast when you scroll. I have a sneaking suspicion that the mighty mouse has different physics on it's scroll wheel than a normal mouse. Let me know if someone has a "normal" two button mouse on osx and if you're able to reproduce this...

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Old 04-07-2009, 04:18 PM   #18
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http://screencast.com/t/PDPua2UE

this is the worst one I've come across. Rendering somehow has an impact on effects. the EQ in the video cuts the entire signal on the master fader, and Machfive completely ignores that it has loaded samples it should be playing. so I have to delete and undo the delete for vibe-EQ and I have to reload the samples in machfive.

So there is no way to render this song as of now, besides using "save live output to disk."
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cmd+scroll to resize the tracks when the master track is present bounces all the tracks around really fast and makes it difficult to tell how much resizing you are accomplishing. it almost looks like you are showing and hiding the master track really really fast when you scroll. I have a sneaking suspicion that the mighty mouse has different physics on it's scroll wheel than a normal mouse. Let me know if someone has a "normal" two button mouse on osx and if you're able to reproduce this...
confirmed ppc 10.5.6
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screenie:
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cmd+scroll to resize the tracks when the master track is present bounces all the tracks around really fast and makes it difficult to tell how much resizing you are accomplishing. it almost looks like you are showing and hiding the master track really really fast when you scroll. I have a sneaking suspicion that the mighty mouse has different physics on it's scroll wheel than a normal mouse. Let me know if someone has a "normal" two button mouse on osx and if you're able to reproduce this...
Mostly confirmed.
see here: http://screencast.com/t/rFRwPLH24Z

cmd+mousewheel while the master is visible in the TCP causes the freak-out track-jumpy dance.

open the docker, however, and the jitters subside... until you close the docker, that is.

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macbook pro, osx 10.5.6

i have a 48000Hz project with a 44100Hz audio item in it. i inserted ReaDelay on that item's fx chain, everything played like it should be
but in the rendered 44100 .wav file the delay on this audio item is completely out of sync.
obviously it's caused by somehow incorrectly converted samplerate of the item's fx
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some more - maybe not bugs but can become annoying

in the piano roll editor it would be nice to have the piano keys reflecting keys pressed on the midi keyboard

and one more thing - with midi editor open and "auto-arm tracks" selected, when i select another track in the track view (accidentally or on purpose), then in the midi editor still staying open and in focus i can't play midi keyboard anymore. it would be better to never stop monitoring midi signal for the track which has an editor currently open and in focus, independently of the track selected in the track view
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You can't remove custom folders from the plugin window.
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Default Mac Reaper Version 3 Beta 2

Mac Reaper Version 3 Beta2 now on LOL for your fun and flavour!

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Old 04-09-2009, 06:20 AM   #25
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These http://forum.cockos.com/showpost.php...9&postcount=10 same bugs persist in beta 2.
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It seems that AU in general does not work as well as VST does.
Same general consideration here.
Got grafx displaying problems as well (especially with iZotope Ozone).
Workaround : click here and there on the plug-in window and it usually forces it to display pretty much correctly.
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osx 10.5.6

fade-in mouse cursor is an ibeam, not the reaper fade in graphic.

*Confirmed: http://screencast.com/t/ygaCpPC1Uw
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Ive mentioned this before but Plogue Bidule acts very strange - no GUI then closes the fx window when you click the GUI button twice...

I guess I'll have to learn JS for my utilities...
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Tracks do not solo properly, regardless of whether solo in place is checked in prefs or not.

Odd behavior: when unchecked but solo in front dimming turned to -40db, then no other tracks are heard ie. normal soloing occurs. Yet checkbox indicates nothing should be happening to affect this outcome.

So device prefs has a glitch that allows tracks to bleed in, even when setting says it won't be allowed.

Nice work though. Them Reaps is a coming along jus' fine.
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Default render level through iZotope Ozone 4 not consistent

When inserting Ozone 4 as a master limiter, automation is read by Reaper, but not rendered accordingly.

My case :
I automated the input level to have my intro tap in the "near 0 db" range as well as the rest of the song.
My master output meter peaks at -0.1 db = fine.
My rendered file peaks at -3.5 db = not fine.

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It's been some kind of "bug" since v. 2.x but why can't we just hit that spacebar and get Reaper play normally when working in a non-JS or non-Cockos plug-in ?
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Pretty serious crash when rendering audio offline, that has been stretched with elastique2 Pro:

Thread 13 Crashed:
0 elastique2.dylib 0x1c5148a3 InstFreqProc(stPVData*) + 4451
1 elastique2.dylib 0x1c51758a PVProcessVecLib(void*, float**, float**, int) + 1324
2 elastique2.dylib 0x1c512434 CElastiqueMC::ProcessData(float**, int, float**) + 1068
3 elastique2.dylib 0x1c5180a4 CelastiquePro::ProcessData(float**, int, float**) + 668
4 com.cockos.reaper 0x00182991 ElastiqueShifter_2::GetSamples(int, double*) + 1631
5 com.cockos.reaper 0x0005c4ad MediaItem::GetSamples_PitchAdjust(MediaItem_Take*, PCM_source_transfer_t*, double, double, int, int, bool, double) + 1467
6 com.cockos.reaper 0x0005d1c2 MediaItem::GetSourceSamples(MediaItem_Take*, PCM_source_transfer_t*, int, double) + 3142
7 com.cockos.reaper 0x0006b0a8 MediaItem::GetSourceSamplesWFX(MediaItem_Take*, PCM_source_transfer_t*, int) + 498
8 com.cockos.reaper 0x0006b918 MediaItem::ExtGetSamples(PCM_source_transfer_t*, int) + 1262
9 com.cockos.reaper 0x00051e9f MediaTrack::GetSamples_real(PCM_source_transfer_t* , bool, long long) + 2583
10 com.cockos.reaper 0x000599a5 MediaTrack::RunWorkThread(int, double, MediaTrack**, int) + 967
11 com.cockos.reaper 0x000738e0 WorkerThreadInst::threadProc(void*) + 1226
12 com.cockos.reaper 0x001fe0b3 __threadproc(void*) + 31
13 libSystem.B.dylib 0x007d26f5 _pthread_start + 321
14 libSystem.B.dylib 0x007d25b2 thread_start + 34
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don't know if this is mac only but...

in inline midi editor select a note: execute the 'delete notes' action from the action window - nothing happens.

I have 'delete' set to delete notes in the inline editor: when I select a note and press delete the whole clip is deleted.
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Default Mac Reaper Version 3 Beta 2b

been downloadable for a day or two...
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been downloadable for a day or two...
all the bugs I listed happen on beta 2 as well. it's almost like I already had the beta 2. I mean - I don't notice a difference that is.
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Another crash. This time with Stillwell plugs:

Thread 0 Crashed:
0 ...illwellaudio.audiounit.1973 0x23c6f345 IGraphics::IsDirty(IRECT*) + 49
1 ...illwellaudio.audiounit.1973 0x23c70920 -[IGraphicsCocoa_v1000 onTimer:] + 70
2 com.apple.Foundation 0x01a97267 __NSFireTimer + 279
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00b5ab45 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 4469
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00b5acf8 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
5 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x02095480 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 283
6 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x02095299 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 374
7 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x0209510d BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode + 106
8 com.apple.AppKit 0x00d523ed _DPSNextEvent + 657
9 com.apple.AppKit 0x00d51ca0 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 128
10 com.apple.AppKit 0x00d4acdb -[NSApplication run] + 795
11 com.apple.AppKit 0x00d17f14 NSApplicationMain + 574
12 com.cockos.reaper 0x000023fa _start + 216
13 com.cockos.reaper 0x00002321 start + 41
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Thread 0 Crashed:
0 ...lwellaudio.vst.eventhorizon 0x1ff2873d IGraphics::IsDirty(IRECT*) + 49
1 ...lwellaudio.vst.eventhorizon 0x1ff29c32 -[IGraphicsCocoa_v1000 onTimer:] + 70
2 com.apple.Foundation 0x01a97267 __NSFireTimer + 279
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00b5ab45 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 4469
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00b5acf8 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
5 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x02095480 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 283
6 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x02095299 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 374
7 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x0209510d BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode + 106
8 com.apple.AppKit 0x00d523ed _DPSNextEvent + 657
9 com.apple.AppKit 0x00d51ca0 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 128
10 com.apple.AppKit 0x00d4acdb -[NSApplication run] + 795
11 com.apple.AppKit 0x00d17f14 NSApplicationMain + 574
12 com.cockos.reaper 0x000023fa _start + 216
13 com.cockos.reaper 0x00002321 start + 41

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And another.... this new beta crashes a lot more than the old one.
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Old 04-14-2009, 02:42 PM   #39
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plugin: MOTU machfive2

doesn't recognize any parameter automation is empty under it. Also, reaper drops the signal coming from it when I attempt to render, so I have to reload the sample banks.

So the only way to render is "save live output to disk" right now...
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Tiger 10.4.11 PPC

gluing tracks seems to have a delayed reaction time. Click, wait, then activity starts after a few seconds.
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