Old 03-06-2024, 11:33 AM   #1
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Hello Everyone, could you please help me with a question on Reaper?

I'm new here and I don't speak English, so I'm using the translator to help me with this task

I currently have a Yamaha PSR S670 arranger keyboard.
It is already correctly connected with Repaer, and I can even send MIDI CC commands from Reaper to the keyboard, to change timbres, during the execution of a VS, for example.

To do this, I made a midi track where I will send the CC commands, exchange during the execution of VS

However, my question is simple, at least for me as I am new to this subject:
What I want is to send a command to activate and/or stop the keyboard rhythm.

Is there such a possibility?
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Old 03-06-2024, 12:21 PM   #2
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Very likely this is possible.

You need to read the keyboard's Documentation and find "Midi implementation" to see what it can send and receive.

Regarding Reaper:
What do you want to perform to have Reaper send such a message ?

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Old 03-06-2024, 01:12 PM   #3
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Very likely this is possible.

You need to read the keyboard's Documentation and fined "Midi implementation" to see what it can send and receive.

Regarding Reaper:
What do you want to perform to have Reaper send such a message ?
First I would like to thank you for your interaction!
I use a track in reaper to send this command.

As I said above, I can already send the tone change commands, and the s670 recognizes these commands, but I can't make it activate the rhythm with the CC 49
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Old 03-06-2024, 01:40 PM   #4
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Try page 54 of this manual

https://usa.yamaha.com/files/downloa...pB1kOjzluCe-UI

If I understand what you're looking for, they aren't SysEx messages-- they're System messages, but they're Realtime messages, not SysEx messages. See page 71 of the Data List-- FAH = Start, and FCH = Stop.

https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/in...?topic=47961.0
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Old 03-07-2024, 12:37 AM   #5
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I use a track in reaper to send this command.
Does that mean it is recorded in a midi item ? (BTW.: Reaper does not feature "Midi tracks", as any track can hold Midi items and any track can be used to route Midi).
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Old 03-07-2024, 05:35 AM   #6
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Try page 54 of this manual

https://usa.yamaha.com/files/downloa...pB1kOjzluCe-UI

If I understand what you're looking for, they aren't SysEx messages-- they're System messages, but they're Realtime messages, not SysEx messages. See page 71 of the Data List-- FAH = Start, and FCH = Stop.

https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/in...?topic=47961.0

First I would like to thank you for your interaction!
I'll try to find something manual.
But I've seen some people saying it would be impossible.
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Old 03-07-2024, 06:00 AM   #7
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Does that mean it is recorded in a midi item ? (BTW.: Reaper does not feature "Midi tracks", as any track can hold Midi items and any track can be used to route Midi).
Sorry if I can't speak correctly.

I'll try to explain:

1 - I made the connection settings for my arranger keyboard with Repaer;

2 - I added a track (MIDI) to my Playback project, where I wrote commands for changing timbres.
These commands are in positions in the song where I need a specific timbre.
Ex: CC Bank Select 14-bits (0/32) and PC 0-113-2
When I press "play" (space bar) on playback (Reaper) and go through this point on the MIDI track, it changes the timbre on my keyboard.

This is correct!
I can do it now!

What I want now is:
In addition to timibre changes,
activate the keyboard's Start/Stop, causing it to start and stop the rhythm at certain points on the track
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Old 03-07-2024, 08:34 AM   #8
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Seemingly the keyboard does not feature starting and stopping as a reaction to CC Midi message, but you need to send timing messages.

This might be a bit complicated. Of course this is very uncommon, as the timing of the keyboard might be out of sync with the timing of the reaper project.

I see two ways:

- In the midi editor "Event List" such messages can be inserted.

- A JSFX plugin can be found or created that converts CC messages in the appropriate timing messages.

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Old 03-07-2024, 10:35 AM   #9
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Seemingly the keyboard does not feature starting and stopping as a reaction to CC Midi message, but you need to send timing messages.

This might be a bit complicated. Of course this is very uncommon, as the timing of the keyboard might be out of sync with the timing of the reaper project.

I see two ways:

In the midi editor "Event List" such messages can be inserted.

A JSFX pklugin can be fouind opr creatd tghart converts CC messages in zthe appropriate timing messages.

With your help, I found something about the "SysEx" command. What I'm still trying is how to get this sent from Repaer to the keyboard.

Alguns links:

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=216112

https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/in...?topic=48686.0


The commands are hexadecimal... I don't know how to send this to Repaer
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Old 03-07-2024, 11:07 AM   #10
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Thos is how you can enter / edit SysEx messages:

-- Open the MIDI item in the MIDI Editor
-- select the SysEx lane in the lower left corner (1)
-- double-click at the desired position (2) and type in the SysEx Data (excluding the leading F0 and trailing F7).

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Thos is how you can enter / edit SysEx messages:

-- Open the MIDI item in the MIDI Editor
-- select the SysEx lane in the lower left corner (1)
-- double-click at the desired position (2) and type in the SysEx Data (excluding the leading F0 and trailing F7).


Very very thanks!

I'll test it and as soon as I get the results, I'll post it here!
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Old 03-08-2024, 03:38 AM   #12
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Very very thanks!

I'll test it and as soon as I get the results, I'll post it here!

Hey guys!
I inform you that, with everyone's help, you managed to carry out the procedure.

I would really like to thank everyone who contributed.

I inform you that the other topics that I ended up opening, in other forums, have been deleted.

Sorry, I didn't know I couldn't!

Thanks again to all!
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