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Found myself another undesirable guitar. Checking internet discussions I found out second hand top of the lines of this brand go for like £50 in UK (mine was a bit more but I suck at haggling plus we're apparently rich here) - so I guess will be an excellent company for my Hohner that the store couldn't get rid of for a decade or so.

It's a Shine from the first half of 2000s. Thinline(?) looking vaguely like nothing, plays nice after set up, neck like a baseball bat tho.



Complete collection of 2 below. I feel a bit buried alive since most of the external activities evaporated in recent months, so I'll consider more stupid ideas like this. Pump organ maybe. Does it mix well with morse code samples?

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I always liked the natural wood finish on guitars. Requires a single piece of wood to get it right, which can get pricey, unless you're talking about a veneer, but I always thought they looked pretty cool.

Nice guitars.
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Specs say it's made of ash, seems legit. First guitar I have with a natural look, I guess would be nicer matte but the glossy finish surely helped make it more sturdy (didn't look well taken care of when arrived, but cleaned up pretty ok).
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Turn one of em fretless and embrace the failing
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Old 08-07-2020, 09:47 AM   #5
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I built a PartsCaster years ago with a two piece swamp ash body.

I stained it using black and red Rit dye and finished it with Tru Oil. The grain really pops. Or at least it used to.

For some reason the [img] tags aren't working, but you can see it here.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/w9vxjhaxyf...drose.JPG?dl=0

Texas Special pickups, it's my SRV wannabe guitar.
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Texas Special pickups, it's my SRV wannabe guitar.
Strung with 13s as well? How's the fingertips?
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That's a cool looking guitar! It sounds great on your demo too. Both the guitars in your pic are the kind of things that catch my eye, because I'd be wondering WTF is that???

Even though drums is my main axe, I love guitars and the ones that don't look like all the others always make me try to figure out what exactly they are. The guitar player on my song Jalapeno had some odd ones like you. My favorite was a Sears & Roebuck Silvertone that had a 10 watt tube amp built into the case. We used both the guitar and amp on a surf song and it sounded totally legit.
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Strung with 13s as well? How's the fingertips?
On my Taylor, but not on the PartsCaster, not that hardcore of a wannabe. I don't super glue the calluses back on my fingertips when I tear them off either.

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Sears & Roebuck Silvertone that had a 10 watt tube amp built into the case[/URL]. We used both the guitar and amp on a surf song and it sounded totally legit.
This may be my arthritis meds talking but I remember seeing an old video of Jimmy Page playing one of those Silvertone guitars.
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On my Taylor, but not on the PartsCaster, not that hardcore of a wannabe. I don't super glue the calluses back on my fingertips when I tear them off either.

This may be my arthritis meds talking but I remember seeing an old video of Jimmy Page playing one of those Silvertone guitars.
Jimmy Page would play one of those cheap hollow-body Danelectro guitars with the lipstick tube pickups tuned to DADGAD whenever he played Kashmir. I think that's what you're thinking of.

And, yeah, ZEEKAT, great tune.
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This may be my arthritis meds talking but I remember seeing an old video of Jimmy Page playing one of those Silvertone guitars.
My guitarist took his Silvertone to our local luthier and had it tweaked where it played incredibly easy. Danelecto is who made those for Sears.
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Lipsticks in my Hohner are shrill, extremely weak, noisy and microphonic as hell. Which is apparently the situation with the originals. They're even the same size, sure they wont fit in place of normal single coils.

I'm grateful they didn't make it of fiberboard, though. It's bonkers Danelectros made so cheaply got so famous
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That neck is super wide. I dont think even my five string bass has a neck like that

My Shine bass has that same semi hollow pointless thing on it tho

EDIT: This thing, but fretless, with an ebony fretboard (I think?), and I was mistaken, the neck is like a baseball bat, the bass itself is so stupidly heavy too

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5er with an f-hole, pretty novel idea yeah. Maybe they punch those in everything indiscriminately. F-holed accordions, triangles etc.

Neck on mine isn't that wide, it's normal, it's the profile that's thick - which should apparently help with playing chords but makes my hand sore instead, go figure. Anyway, Shine went to the repairers(?) for a new nut or whatever they could think to help the trem to be a bit more stable. Hope it won't be back with an extra f-hole.
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Nice axes, nice tune...


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Does Zeekat own any Zcat pedals?
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Nah, but I use zcat in Linux, sometimes even zgrep.
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Just had my guitar picked up by the local luthier. Gonna be defretted, tremelo replaced, pick ups replaced. Apparently there's a pick up that give an ebow like effect so I may go for that.

Fretless guitar on the way
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Fretless with a trem and a sustainiac? That's a whale song machine.
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Thats pretty much what the guy said that took the guitar away.

Im starting to think the trem may be over kill and a solid unit might be a better idea.

I got a bigsby trem added to my les paul copy so im not convinced a fretless guitar needs even more wobble on it via a tremelo Just cos its there doesnt mean I have to use it tho.

I shall do some thinking
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Ordered a Wilkinson in hope for making it float more stably. Wonder if it will fit at all lol.
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Ordered a Wilkinson in hope for making it float more stably. Wonder if it will fit at all lol.
Fingers crossed! I dont know enough about these things so got a professional to look into it for me

The local guitar shop now do pick ups so no need to go outside or deal with dirty humans and their vile diseases
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Bridge arrived, I managed to install and set it up without breaking anything, go me(it's a WVS50K model for kinda neglected 63mm trem post spacing). Now I can do cheezy trem whirrs on 100% of my tremoloed guitars. Altough trem cavity is kinda tight and it makes dive-bombs a bit shallow coz the trem block bumps into the cavity wall once tilted. My modest career of guitar-modder is a list of installing things that fit-but-not-quite.

(seems fairly fixable with a file though)

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Bridge arrived, I managed to install and set it up without breaking anything, go me(it's a WVS50K model for kinda neglected 63mm trem post spacing). Now I can do cheezy trem whirrs on 100% of my tremoloed guitars. Altough trem cavity is kinda tight and it makes dive-bombs a bit shallow coz the trem block bumps into the cavity wall once tilted. My modest career of guitar-modder is a list of installing things that fit-but-not-quite.

(seems fairly fixable with a file though)

Looks good, man! Congrats. I look forward to hearing it in action.

I decided against keeping the trem on my experimental work in progress. Sustainiac yes, fretless yes, tremelo no
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I'm grateful they didn't make it of fiberboard, though. It's bonkers Danelectros made so cheaply got so famous
That`s where a lot of the sound comes from. I have one of the first reissue 59 baritones with the wooden bridge piece & it sounds great. I also had a telecaster with a baritone neck fitted & a regular tele bridge. Sounded completely anonymous... no character at all.

But it WAS easier to play.
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It's wild how conditioned were are to care about the intonation and stuff, while some other people play guitars with bridges made with a straight planks of wood like it's no problem
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Dunno why but significant part of my in progress folder sounds like weather channel type backing tracks. Did a test run of the bridge with one of the old projects and had to sleep on it to discover next day I totally did another bit of interstitial TV music. Anyway, bridge works beautifully, don't have to dick around with tuners at all.

(meanwhile I'll listen to more 70s style psych and learn to steal from cooler music)

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left a comment on the video itself, but i wanna post here too about how much I like your trem use in this video/track. Having both the sound of what you do and being able to see how youre doing it is very handy
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i just tried out that 'brrr' trem thing on my bigsby, holy shit

because its actually spring loaded, its like doing it with springy doorstop, or a shatterproof ruler on a desk

brilliant! thanks!

Maybe I should get that sustainiac thingy in this guitar instead/also?
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Wait, can you do flutters on Bigsby? Never used one but that spring looks like its taken out of a motorcycle or something, kinda scary.
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Gonna try and record some for the latest track, to see how it sounds.
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Biggest problem on my Gretsch with Bigsby is that I cant do that "Brrrrr" pushing down, I have to pull up, which puts it out of tune in the wrong direction! At least I can still do it on my Tokai Strat though...
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Bigsby is kinda upside down strat trem isn't it. You squeeze the spring instead of stretching? So maybe thats why.

Shine returned from its final touch up, with great fast setup, but with trem de-brrr-ed. Evening spent by setting it up back the way I like, boo.
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Bigsby is kinda upside down strat trem isn't it. You squeeze the spring instead of stretching? So maybe thats why.

Shine returned from its final touch up, with great fast setup, but with trem de-brrr-ed. Evening spent by setting it up back the way I like, boo.
Sounds brrroken
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Biggest problem on my Gretsch with Bigsby is that I cant do that "Brrrrr" pushing down, I have to pull up, which puts it out of tune in the wrong direction! At least I can still do it on my Tokai Strat though...
Pull up too hard on a Bigsby and the spring will fall out. Quite disconcerting.

I am such a huge fan of unusual guitars. My son and I have a dozen or so of them. Each one has a unique tone palate, and some of them get fairly frequent use use in the studio when clients are trying to get unique sounds. Most of the ones we have are great instruments.

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Pull up too hard on a Bigsby and the spring will fall out. Quite disconcerting.

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I had this happen on the first day of getting my guitar back from the shop, much to my disappointment considering my excitement about pulling up

Was convinced I'd broken it for a while
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