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05-25-2015, 09:26 AM
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Human being with feelings
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Picture background main window
I don't know if this feature has yet requested : picture (texture or image) in the background of the main window.
Why ? Why not. ;-)
Below, two virtual main windows (first example : picture background from ZenWriter, I think). It's only drafts made with Gimp.
The original great theme is from MVH, the MVH shaker theme. Three years ago, I'd modified and changed icons and textures. And mixed with other themes.
Herer, b&w theme with color items and background
Last edited by Barrail; 05-28-2015 at 07:05 AM.
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05-25-2015, 06:28 PM
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Human being with feelings
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A distraction, taking away focus from what is important.
A "why not"...
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05-26-2015, 01:28 AM
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Human being with feelings
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No, no, no.
You've forgotten to write "imo". How do you know what is important or not for the other persons ?
I'm a composer. If I see a picture while I compose, it's a thread. An immersion.
So, it's not a distraction. This picture helps me to be in a special atmosphere.
When I write, I use FocusWriter, an excellent without distraction soft, but I can add a background picture.
If I understand you, you like what is austere to keep the focus.
Why not ? Nice.
But I don't think it's more or less serious if somebody use a feature what is not austere ; with pictures, I'm more on the focus... Imo.
Last edited by Barrail; 05-26-2015 at 01:41 AM.
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05-26-2015, 02:19 AM
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Banned
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no. never. no background pictures.
you can tape a background pic onto your screen.
of course ... you dont see the screen anymore and its not a background picture. but anyway, you get the picture ... effect is the same.
I am really struggling with how the hell someone wants a bg pic for the main window and then complain about not seeing whats going on on a track ...
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05-26-2015, 02:46 AM
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#5
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-blänk-
Join Date: Jun 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whiteaxxxe
I am really struggling with how the hell someone wants a bg pic for the main window and then complain about not seeing whats going on on a track ...
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Picture doesn't necessarily mean you pin a Van Gogh or Kandinsky into the arrange view. And where did Barrail complain that he doesn't see what's going on on a track?
Logic provided (and likely still does) several tile-based arrange backgrounds which added a subtle structure or grain. I personally find any of them easier on the eyes than a perfectly plain color or the alternating even/odd track coloring Reaper provides (which is looking weird as soon as you hide tracks from the arrange). Instead of being a distraction, I wager the claim that they can actually help stuff on the arrange to stand out.
I don't find it massively important, but sure would use it. If I then find myself not seeing what's going on, I promise not to complain, but choose another one .
EDIT: Yes, sure it's been requested before. I'll see if I can find a ticket for it in the tracker.
Last edited by gofer; 05-26-2015 at 03:04 AM.
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05-26-2015, 03:28 AM
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Human being with feelings
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It's a sect, it's a sect, they dont't want a background picture, but they use colours and themes !
I think your mother had an ugly background picture on the family computer, an Amstrad 6218, maybe. And you have problems with your mother ! Yes ? I'm right ?
I'm afraid with guys who say "Never". They have a closed mind, imo.
"Never" isn't an advanced and stimulative concept.
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05-26-2015, 03:59 AM
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#7
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Nov 2010
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I completely understand and agree with you Barrail. It's important to have an inspiring environment - let's remember that REAPER is a program that helps us facilitate music creation - creation requires a flow and that flow is to fast for the intellect. While intellectual thinking is important, intuition is what allows ideas to emerge from subconscious. I really like this quote by Aldous Huxely in regards to that topic:
There are things known and there are things unknown, and in between are the doors of perception
REAPER is a great program with tons of options, but while I'm working I want to have a minimal of things available both visually and functionally so I can keep my focus on. That's the strength of REAPER, it allows us to create almost perfect workflow and appearance in regards to our personal needs and ideas (you just have to be careful not to get stuck in this state of ever-evolving customization. Especially if you write scripts or extensions) Your request would be a great addition to REAPER.
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05-26-2015, 04:30 AM
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Banned
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barrail
It's a sect, it's a sect, they dont't want a background picture, but they use colours and themes !
I think your mother had an ugly background picture on the family computer, an Amstrad 6218, maybe. And you have problems with your mother ! Yes ? I'm right ?
I'm afraid with guys who say "Never". They have a closed mind, imo.
"Never" isn't an advanced and stimulative concept.
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my mother didnt know what a computer was for. so ... she is from a time when only Conrad Zuse knew what a computer was. (you can look up that name at a site called "google.com")
and you, my forunately not-friend, have an ugly character, what is worse than having an ugly family. and you can shove your pseudo-analytic blahblahing up your where-the-sun-never-shines and feel lucky with it there.
I said never. and that stays. and who are you clown to tell me if someone is close minded? are not familiar with the concept that little kids should not always have what they want to have?
so stop talking to me and let someone professional take care of your damages.
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05-26-2015, 04:57 AM
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-blänk-
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 11,359
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Stood up with the wrong leg first or something? Calm it down some notches, Barail very obviously tried to be funny. No need to be all uptight.
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05-26-2015, 04:59 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Nov 2010
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whiteaxxxe - I don't get it why you get so upset about a random guy creating FR and expressing his thoughts.
If the feature gets implemented, you still don't have to use it so I don't get why you even care so much that you feel the need to insult random people on the internet?
Regarding you mother...I don't think he was trying to insult you but simply state the obvious through a humorous observation. Old people sometimes put silly things on the wallpaper (think pixelated old picture from some familiy reunion scanned 10 years ago) - and you don't bother them about it, lol.
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05-26-2015, 06:35 AM
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I am not upset because his FR but because of his wannabe insulting stupid dumb rantings.
ontopic: if I say never is the meaning of that of course imo. I dont think one has to write always "imo". never means obviously never for me. its not my concern if he plasters a Picasso or Monet or Kandisnky or whatever in his background. I find that very clear that I stated my personal opinion on this matter.
to state it somewhat clearer: I am not intersted. and I speak only for myself. of course.
that is an appropriate background for a DAW (see, I am helpful ... ):
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05-26-2015, 07:15 AM
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-blänk-
Join Date: Jun 2008
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No insults to be found other than in your reply, really. Only if you try hard you can understand his post as an offence.
Actually the first thing you posted in here was an attempt to ridicule the OP's request. So, as you decided to dish out jokey-pokes you might consider to be a bit tougher taking a joke that's on you.
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05-26-2015, 09:14 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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As to get away from Munch, Kandinsky et all, I mocked up what I have in mind talking about an arrange view background image. I took the same background I also have on my desktop, actually a tiled image, so it's actually tiny in size and memory requirement should be pretty much negligible using a pic like this.
Here is Reaper as of now:
Here the same arrange with the tiled background (I tried to match color as best as I could to the previous image). The difference is very subtle, but it's much easier to look at for longer terms than the aseptic plain color (subjective, of course):
The background image would not scroll or zoom with arrange content, just be static.
As it took just a minute from there I felt so free as to sneak in another subtle change in the next pic which would make the arrange view (again, for my eyes) look much better, background image or not: two pixel lines between tracks giving it an ever so slight 3d touch (I know, 3d ain't popular, should come up with a better description here ).
Attaching them with the forum software apparently did some harm to my mockups, they are not nearly as "artifactious" here .
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05-26-2015, 09:52 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Silver City, NM
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-100
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05-26-2015, 10:22 AM
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#15
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-blänk-
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 11,359
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We count all but 99 of them .
Any actual argument at hand to go with your figure? As Breeder already mentioned, it's nothing that would harm you - just don't use it.
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05-28-2015, 03:46 AM
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Hello,
First of all, whiteaxxxe, I love you, you're the best of... you're the best.
gofer and breeder :
**************
Ok, now, seriously, as gofer (interesting pictures), I've created 4 virtual main windows (the first picture background is from ZenWriter, I think). It's only drafts made with Gimp.
The original great theme is from MVH, the MVH shaker theme. Three years ago, I'd modified and changed icons and textures. And mixed with other themes.
Last edited by Barrail; 05-28-2015 at 07:07 AM.
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05-28-2015, 06:53 AM
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#17
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Below, it's a strange idea from whiteaxxxe, but, I don't know...
Oh, ok, why not ?
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05-28-2015, 10:37 AM
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#18
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 504
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I would not use a picture for the arranger background. But then, I wouldn't use pictures for sliders, item backgrounds, meters, etc. Others do. So either let everything be themable or dismiss the concept altogether.
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05-28-2015, 11:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barrail
Below, it's a strange idea from whiteaxxxe, but, I don't know...
Oh, ok, why not ?
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) ok, that was a good one ...
to answer your question "why not?": because it looks bullshit!!
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05-28-2015, 12:00 PM
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#20
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Bullshit, bullshit ?
My english langage is poor : "bullshit" is "joke" ?
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05-28-2015, 12:12 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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I heard Cockos have decided to restrict backgrounds to one fixed pic per user, because that's the Reaper way. Whiteaxxxe, maybe you should have chosen another variety of "The Scream" if you're not happy with that one? I prefer the 1893 tempera and oil on cardboard. Maybe it's not too late, if you ask nicely, to convince Justin to re-think the whiteaxxxe version of Reaper.
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05-28-2015, 04:45 PM
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05-29-2015, 03:51 AM
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#23
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Tribute to Sir Terry Pratchett
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06-02-2015, 04:06 PM
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#24
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I like the idea. Though I would not use it as I probably feel it too much a distraction. If others Would be able to utilize having a picture in the background to help their creativity, why not allow it as an allowable feature in their settings. Make the feature off by default for those that don't want it.
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06-02-2015, 09:53 PM
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I've been wanting to add some textures to Reaper since day one. Nothing as gaudy as some of these examples, but just something subtle, like paper or scratches. It's minor, but for visually sensitive people, it's helpful.
I think it's already been requested a few times, even before WALTER, but doesn't look like there's any inclination to implement.
You can, otoh, use an window manager program that supports transparency to make all of Reaper slightly transparent and your desktop image could then act as a background texture or sorts...
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07-08-2016, 12:30 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Digging this up. I miss this from FL Studio
(Gridlines should be visible, unlike mockups)
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07-08-2016, 01:00 AM
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I'd forgotten about whiteaxxxe, bless 'im
Although I wouldn't use this feature for most of the art examples I've seen used as examples here, I'm oddly drawn to the plank/fence background, 2nd example in post 16 -I can imagine nailing my bits of audio to it on pieces of sheet tin cut from old oil cans
Yeah, ok, I'm odd...!
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07-10-2016, 05:13 AM
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Last edited by A Little Man and a House; 07-10-2016 at 05:24 AM.
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07-10-2016, 07:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A Little Man and a House
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That does look better!
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07-10-2016, 06:40 PM
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Human being with feelings
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I wholeheartedly support this crazy idea! Really helps set the mood for your tracks.
Implementation would render the picture underneath the current track even and odd colours, with a slider for transparency of said colours and an option to disable them (and just have the picture). This would all be found in the Project Settings window.
Come on guys, it's just fun! Stop being such downers. Also those making YouTube videos for their music by recording the video of the track being played in Reaper would be able to put fun images or their own logos behind the music. Quite eye catching and I can't think of a DAW that does that. Might attract positivity towards Reaper.
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07-10-2016, 10:07 PM
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#31
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@Fergler
Well said!
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07-10-2016, 11:34 PM
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Human being with feelings
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I love anything that can inspire so big +1000 for this.
I am taking this sin even further.
Whatever picture or vid (online or not, sound or not) you want. Myself would put some beach party or nature pics, pretty ladies... who knows what can inspire me that day. I am even adding features now!
Computers can be boring as Shi*. So yes it would add some clutter and/or confusion to the screen. But in my case, that is easily overcome by seeing something inspiring.
Now flame this!
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07-11-2016, 01:48 AM
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Human being with feelings
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Provided it's just an option I can't see a problem. I'm not going to use it but then I guess there's already at least 80% of Reaper I don't use.
OTOH there are plenty of other more music-related things that I'd rather see the developers spending time on than this.
Steve
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08-29-2016, 03:00 AM
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Just another +1 for this, I would absolutely love this feature.
It would be super nice when working with clients or collaborators on multimedia/game projects to be able have some of the visual references inside the project.
It would certainly be a creative and unique feature.
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08-29-2016, 04:04 AM
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#35
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I think I'd probably use this feature and would be happy to provide original photo backgrounds in the stash.
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08-29-2016, 04:22 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 13,334
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Me too. Nice FR. +1
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08-29-2016, 05:48 AM
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#37
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Human being with feelings
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08-29-2016, 06:14 AM
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#38
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Human being with feelings
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+1
One more way to add some subtle 3D depth to the Arrange and to other windows, especially when used for textures. Logic and Sibelius (to name just a few) had it back in the 90s.
And if the background could use some real time video processing... Just imagine water waves rhythmically moving around currently playing items, and other GPU/CPU heavy miracles ...;D.
Artistic paintings or photos may be sometimes too distracting, so it would be good to add some easily accessible opacity slider (0-100%).
Last edited by sebas777; 08-29-2016 at 03:39 PM.
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08-29-2016, 08:35 AM
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Very nice idea. I would use some abstract pictures as background.
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08-29-2016, 08:45 AM
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I like the idea.
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