Item envelopes VS track height

[inspired]

in this example i have all item envelopes active (except for mute i think)

the problem is, when the track is zoomed all the way down (minimum height) selecting/copy/moving an item with envelopes active is kinda... nightamerish

(see image to understand)

so could you make the item envelopes (including item fades/volume-handle NON-editable if track height is less than *px ?

EDIT: the option to prevent edit of item fades exists already, so just the rest have to be done

[Mercado_Negro]

Oh God +1

Just like we can 'disable' fades it would be a Godsend if we could also disable per-take envelopes at specific heights (in pixels). Sometimes my blood pressure goes over the top because of this "let's copy that item... hmmm where do I click on?.... *pixel hunting*.... here... doh!, just moved a point"

[Aeolian]

There is an action in the list that goes something like "toggle hide envelopes on selected tracks" and "toggle hide envelopes on all tracks"

whack those on a key command and it will be very quick to hide the offending envelopes, move stuff around/hack stuff up/whatever, and then unhide them again.

1.Hit a key
2.Do stuff
3.Hit the same key again

[Mercado_Negro]

Originally Posted by Aeolian

There is an action in the list that goes something like "toggle hide envelopes on selected tracks" and "toggle hide envelopes on all tracks"

whack those on a key command and it will be very quick to hide the offending envelopes, move stuff around/hack stuff up/whatever, and then unhide them again.

1.Hit a key
2.Do stuff
3.Hit the same key again

We're talking about per-take envelopes, not track envelopes Right now we just have actions that toggle those envelopes on/off which means we have to select the item, find the key for the envelope you want to 'deactivate' (or keys, if there are several envelopes active), copy/cut/move the item and find those keys again to bring them back. If you sum the fact that you'd possibly need to move a bunch of items where some of them have envelopes while others don't it could easily mess up your current work.

[Aeolian]

Ah i see ......

Its the method i use for track envelopes, but like you mentioned, it can get messy when your flying at 100km/h through a mix

[Mercado_Negro]

Originally Posted by Aeolian

Ah i see ......

Its the method i use for track envelopes, but like you mentioned, it can get messy when your flying at 100km/h through a mix

Why am I thinking you don't know about per-take envelopes and you're confusing them with track envelopes which are 2 completely different things? I'm probably just nuts but I'd like to make sure we're on the same page here

[inspired]

Originally Posted by Mercado_Negro

Why am I thinking you don't know about per-take envelopes and you're confusing them with track envelopes which are 2 completely different things? I'm probably just nuts but I'd like to make sure we're on the same page here

good illustration! just to be sure huh?


bump!

[hopi]

very good point about these points... OMG+2

[Phazma]

Hello from a decade later Big +1! The absence of this option caused me much trouble. I hope you devs can implement this soonish..

Edit: this thread seems to be in pre-releases? Should probably be moved to the FR forum..

[Skorobagatko]

+1 as well!