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Old 02-21-2020, 06:46 AM   #1
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Default MIDI device related MIDI shortcuts (action list)

I'd love to have midi device related shortcuts in the action list. At the moment it doesn't matter which midi device triggers the shortcut but in many situations it can be of advantage to trigger actions not just by a defined midi channel and note but also just by a defined device. I use an elgato stream deck to trigger different actions via midi notes. Playing on my midi keyboard also triggers these actions...
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Old 02-21-2020, 11:58 AM   #2
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Im not in front of Reaper at the moment, but I believe actions triggers can be set to specific midi channels as well as CCs. If you set your devices to each transmit on a specific channel, wouldn’t that give you the specificity you’re looking for?

It might also have advantages in other Reaper tasks, too, such as having a specific device control a particular vst instrument or track.
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Old 02-21-2020, 06:16 PM   #3
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Im not in front of Reaper at the moment, but I believe actions triggers can be set to specific midi channels as well as CCs.
yes but it could be way more specific if there would be a distinction between different devices.
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ReaLearn would do that.
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I don't think so. Realearn works track based as far as I know. I want to do midi shortcuts in the action list. global for all projects.
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I'd love to have midi device related shortcuts in the action list. At the moment it doesn't matter which midi device triggers the shortcut but in many situations it can be of advantage to trigger actions not just by a defined midi channel and note but also just by a defined device. I use an elgato stream deck to trigger different actions via midi notes. Playing on my midi keyboard also triggers these actions...
Find the action you are interested in, assign it, very simple. If you can not find anything you like, you can not assign.
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Find the action you are interested in, assign it, very simple. If you can not find anything you like, you can not assign.
You obviously did not read or understand what I want to do. I know how to assign shortcuts to actions.
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I don't think so. Realearn works track based as far as I know. I want to do midi shortcuts in the action list. global for all projects.
Not track based at all. While of course you pop the plugin itself on a track (how else), the triggers and actions are working projectwide. Just save your settings as a preset and re-open them as you like.
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You obviously did not read or understand what I want to do. I know how to assign shortcuts to actions.
I understood, but there is no such thing like seperate channels for mapping per device. All are coming through one single channel, afaik.
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Not track based at all. While of course you pop the plugin itself on a track (how else), the triggers and actions are working projectwide. Just save your settings as a preset and re-open them as you like.
ReaLearn is great, if it would not crash.
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I don't think so. Realearn works track based as far as I know. I want to do midi shortcuts in the action list. global for all projects.
Can you give 10 examples for midi mappings how you want to use it?
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Old 02-23-2020, 09:18 AM   #12
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afaik bitwig has a per device separation. On a track base you also select your device input, so why not on actions?.

I want to map all my plugins to midi commands to recall them via different midi controllers for example. Besides several custom actions and so on.
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ReaLearn is great, if it would not crash.
Does it? Never happened here so far.
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Old 02-24-2020, 11:05 AM   #14
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Does it? Never happened here so far.
Then probably you did not push it to its limits. First I thought wonderful, even with json export, import, has potential for more, then after those crashes I stopped using it. At least for my plans it was not compatible. But now thanks to mespotines us api there will be in future something which can plug the project to your hardware and not the opposite. Much more fun, turning any reaper project, with one button into a groovebox, kind of. Removing the boring automation work entirely. Welcome to the multi groovebox world of Reaper or to tomorrow.


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But now thanks to mespotines us api there will be in future something which can plug the project to your hardware and not the opposite. Much more fun, turning any reaper project, with one button into a groovebox, kind of.
From what I understand, the possibilities are insane - but has anyone developed anything groundbreaking with it?
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Old 02-25-2020, 06:38 AM   #16
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From what I understand, the possibilities are insane - but has anyone developed anything groundbreaking with it?
Depends on the users, only a question of time. Groundbreaking, is not a must, but it has to work, that is a must. No matter how tiny the improvement, it has to work, always.
You could ask also Anton9, maybe he did already anything?

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Old 03-28-2020, 01:27 PM   #18
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afaik bitwig has a per device separation. On a track base you also select your device input, so why not on actions?.
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Old 01-01-2021, 02:42 PM   #19
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Old 01-03-2021, 08:39 PM   #20
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I agree that having to use a special midi channel to isolate midi commands to the action list feels like a workaround. Adding an option to make the actions device-specific would add a very useful level of precision.
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Old 05-23-2022, 01:18 AM   #21
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*BUMP*

It's really a limitation that you cannot specify which device, only what channel action-shortcuts should react to.

I have a Korg NANOCONTROL2 - it has eight sliders - it sends each slider on a separate channel, so it needs 8 channels to function. If action-shortcuts could be filtered pr. device, I could easily use it with REAPER

EDIT: Just use ReaLearn, that'll fix it.

(repository-link for realearn/reapack: https://github.com/helgoboss/reaper-...ster/index.xml )

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Old 05-23-2022, 02:12 AM   #22
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I hit this limit while setting up a live show in Reaper. In the meantime, I'm using ReaLearn, but I think that would be a good addition to native Reaper.
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Old 05-23-2022, 02:34 AM   #23
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Yeah - I just set up ReaLearn and it works just fine for setting up my nanokontrol2, amazing stuff!
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Old 05-27-2022, 12:58 AM   #24
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I don't think so. Realearn works track based as far as I know. I want to do midi shortcuts in the action list. global for all projects.
No, realearn can work globally - put it in your monitor FX chain, and will not be project-specific, but simply always be there. ReaLearn IS the answer to your original question: How to filter midi pr. device, not just pr. channel, and then use it to control stuff
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