v6.12+dev0701 - July 1 2020

[Jae.Thomas]

v6.12+dev0701 - July 1 2020

• + Media explorer: pitch adjustment transposes MIDI directly
  + Notation editor: fix incorrect notation when using MIDI key signature event in A minor [t=239045]
  + Theme: add new tcp_fxparm_fx_norm/byp/off background images
  + Track panels: optionally show each FX in the FX parameter list
  + WALTER: extend tcp.fxparm.margin to support 7th field of FX-insert alignment, 8th field inter-column gap
  # Area selection: better handling of actions to move area selections backwards/forwards when multiple area selections exist
  # Area selection: fix copy/pasting between tracks with different timebase settings [p=2312892]
  # Media explorer: avoid incomplete drag/drop blocking keyboard messages
  # Media explorer: fix display glitch when hiding path dropdown
  # Media explorer: fix importing media with playrate 4.0
  # Media explorer: fix search box clearing on enter key on windows
  # Media explorer: refresh display after changing option to display all files

This thread is for pre-release features discussion. Use the Feature Requests forum for other requests.

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[Jae.Thomas]

(won't open for me, crashes on startup)

[Coachz]

Originally Posted by Jason Brian Merrill

(won't open for me, crashes on startup)

Do you have a startup crash log?

[Jae.Thomas]

Originally Posted by Coachz

Do you have a startup crash log?

doesn't appear so.. unless im not looking in the right place

[Jae.Thomas]

I'll do a restart eventually and check back. There's a lot going on rn - transferring a million files

[Coachz]

Might help. Check Windows event viewer to find the crash log.

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=212157

[Jae.Thomas]

Faulting application name: reaper.exe, version: 70.232.255.203, time stamp: 0x5efd0ab0
Faulting module name: reaper.exe, version: 70.232.255.203, time stamp: 0x5efd0ab0
Exception code: 0xc000041d
Fault offset: 0x000000000007b4a0
Faulting process id: 0x63a0
Faulting application start time: 0x01d6500e2e2a07c7
Faulting application path: C:\Portable Programs\Reaper (x64)\reaper.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Portable Programs\Reaper (x64)\reaper.exe
Report Id: bb181c07-33ed-4259-815d-32fd5470fcf6
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:

and then

Fault bucket 2269610049934281157, type 4
Event Name: APPCRASH
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0

Problem signature:
P1: reaper.exe
P2: 70.232.255.203
P3: 5efd0ab0
P4: reaper.exe
P5: 70.232.255.203
P6: 5efd0ab0
P7: c0000005
P8: 000000000007b4a0
P9:
P10:

Attached files:
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERA FB3.tmp.mdmp
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERB 002.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERB 013.tmp.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERB 021.tmp.csv
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERB 031.tmp.txt

These files may be available here:
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArc hive\AppCrash_reaper.exe_33677cf2546067e86dbed8fb1 8b469976793b0_e0f608b5_075f6021-4264-4c0c-a4c1-111f51ee8604

Analysis symbol:
Rechecking for solution: 0
Report Id: 0ec064ab-8d86-48cc-8e7d-3f865309393b
Report Status: 268435456
Hashed bucket: 963d4aa83238e5d49f7f4650c4fd49c5
Cab Guid: 0

[ovnis]

With this project : https://stash.reaper.fm/39845/bug%20a.rpp

show overlapping media items in lines: ON

CRTL+C/CRTL+V and then drag&drop copy/past = no issue


Directly drag&drop copy/past = bug

[Justin]

Originally Posted by Jason Brian Merrill

Attached files:
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERA FB3.tmp.mdmp

Can you zip and send us this file (email a link if possible)? Thanks!

[schwa]

Originally Posted by ovnis

With this project : https://stash.reaper.fm/39845/bug%20a.rpp

show overlapping media items in lines: ON

This is some kind of rounding issue, but I'm still unable to reproduce it!

[edit] finally! got it.

[Jae.Thomas]

Originally Posted by Justin

Can you zip and send us this file (email a link if possible)? Thanks!

this file does not seem to exist. view hidden files is checked.. .
sent dropbox transfer with all of the dump files from the crashdumps folder

[Jae.Thomas]

keep in mind my pc is super busy moving TONS of files across hard drives and burning blurays. Backup time.

[Jae.Thomas]

doesnt do it on the upstairs computer

[Jae.Thomas]

Originally Posted by Jason Brian Merrill

v6.12+dev0701 - July 1 2020

+ Track panels: optionally show each FX in the FX parameter list

I think I found it ---

do the slots have to be so big?

[Justin]

Originally Posted by Jason Brian Merrill

I think I found it ---

do the slots have to be so big?

Oops fixing that

[Justin]

Originally Posted by Jason Brian Merrill

this file does not seem to exist. view hidden files is checked.. .
sent dropbox transfer with all of the dump files from the crashdumps folder

Thanks! Very strange. Can you try 0630 and see if that does it? And if so, 0629, etc.

[PitchSlap]

Originally Posted by Jason Brian Merrill

v6.12+dev0701 - July 1 2020

• + Media explorer: pitch adjustment transposes MIDI directly
  
  # Media explorer: avoid incomplete drag/drop blocking keyboard messages

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MIDI pitch adjustment is working well. Another big request off the list.

Treating notes as embedded transients (no need to show the lines) would allow using the new snapping to transients feature with MIDI, improving tempo matching and key matching with selections. Just a thought.

Also since MIDI isn't limited like audio (optionally) showing transpose features could allow MIDI files to be usable in different keys/modes etc.


As for importing, being able to create new files from selections without stopping both the project and ME would really improve the workflow. I know Reaper isn't Ableton Live, but the less required starting/stopping the better.

[Jae.Thomas]

Originally Posted by Justin

Thanks! Very strange. Can you try 0630 and see if that does it? And if so, 0629, etc.

i restarted and it works now. Must have just been too much going on, I apologize

[Jae.Thomas]

Originally Posted by Justin

Oops fixing that

its very cool, but I think I would like to be able to drag the order around.... but I have a feeling this might not be going in that direction...

also mouse modifiers for bypass/etc....

basically everything dopp_fxlist does but this would be right on the track which is different, but on some screens much better

[Embass]

Media explorer: preview audio/MIDI through selected track does not obey option: "Do not process muted tracks"
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WbZ...ew?usp=sharing

[Win Conway]

Originally Posted by Jason Brian Merrill

v6.12+dev0701 - July 1 2020

+ Track panels: optionally show each FX in the FX parameter list

How does this work, I have no interest at all in fx parameters on my TCP, but the fx themselves ala MCP would be amazing, but I dont want to add fxparm to my theme if it only shows the fx when you show parameters ?

[Jae.Thomas]

Originally Posted by gpunk_w

How does this work, I have no interest at all in fx parameters on my TCP, but the fx themselves ala MCP would be amazing, but I dont want to add fxparm to my theme if it only shows the fx when you show parameters ?

its on the options menu up top

[Win Conway]

Originally Posted by Jason Brian Merrill

v6.12+dev0701 - July 1 2020

+ WALTER: extend tcp.fxparm.margin to support 7th field of FX-insert alignment, 8th field inter-column gap

OK, so now I need to know what they mean hahaha, so far it looks perfect, if I can WALTER it in to my theme (tried a couple of others themes and they are a bit too responsive for me, I prefer static, so not going from horizontal layout to vertical the more TCP you expose)

[Dimson]

Reaper now does not allow you to copy the item from track to track if the visibility of the envelope is turned off, and the hidden envelopes are no longer copied.

[Win Conway]

This seems like a poor use of space to me, and i think it is because the fx slots themselves are part of the fxparm WALTER settings, if they where separate, it would seem to me that you could then have a vertical column showing fx slots, and horizontal rows aligned with those fx slots to show visible parameters, that would be super slick.

Current, not so nice use of space.


Optimal, nice use of space.


(Forgive the poor quick mock ups)

If it was like that, I would probably even use show fx parameters hahaha.

But FYI this is a great feature for me right now, i am trying to minimize usage of the MCP for sound design, and this is perfect.

[EvilDragon]

Check the default theme to see how WALTER changed for TCP params.

[vitalker]

Originally Posted by Jason Brian Merrill

+ Media explorer: pitch adjustment transposes MIDI directly

Great! A little quirk: when you insert transposed MIDI and want to play anything in ME again, it won't transpose it. Steps to reproduce:
1. Play MIDI in ME
2. Change pitch
3. Paste MIDI into a project
4. Listen to any MIDI in ME
(Expected)5. It will transpose it
(Unexpected)5. It will play it with default pitch.

[musicbynumbers]

Not been able to check yet but if those tcp effects can be dragged to change order then that would be amazing as I often have to do that when adding a new effect.

[bFooz]

+ Notation editor: fix incorrect notation when using MIDI key signature event in A minor [t=239045]

All seems good, I've checked also in the larger project where this occured.

[svijayrathinam]

+ Track panels: optionally show each FX in the FX parameter list


How do I turn this on ? under which menu do I look for this option ? Pls help.

[musicbynumbers]

Options menu at top "show FX inserts in TCP if space.."

Originally Posted by svijayrathinam

+ Track panels: optionally show each FX in the FX parameter list


How do I turn this on ? under which menu do I look for this option ? Pls help.

[bFooz]

New right-click menus are definitely a good step, all is just more usable right now.

Here are some suggestions:

1) the trio "Create database...", "Make database from current folder" and "Add current folder to shortcut list" should be only in the menu for Shortcuts, not in empty explorer area. It is redundant and kind of illogical, since databases and shortcuts have a special column for them.


2) there are two concepts which could be reduced to one - current folder vs selected folder. Current folder is just where we are, does not necessarily present what we work with, that's what selection is for. So these could be remade:

Make database from current folder -> New database from selected folders (this would create one new database, put all selected folders as paths to it)

Add current folder to shortcut list -> New shortcut from selected folder

These would be the same as actions in the right-click on a folder. They should be in the same order on both places.


3) some lines could be shortened, plus some ideas:

(insert/use)
-----
Play preview (we initiate playback with this, that's the most important)
-----
Refresh (this would refresh file browser as well as metadata (or is there any performance penalty with metadata?))
-----
Cut
Copy
Paste
-----
Delete
Rename (renaming could be done inline as well, no need for an extra window)
-----
Show in Explorer (just Explorer for win, just Finder for macs, capital E/F)
Properties (this should be grayed out when not applicable, as should be all actions)

4)
Always show waveform peaks for selected media -> Auto-load preview


There are still few more things left to make it more accessible.

[vitalker]

Originally Posted by svijayrathinam

How do I turn this on ? under which menu do I look for this option ? Pls help.

Through main Options or in Actions.

[horneusz]

Media explorer docked on the right side of the screen. By changing the width, graphic glitches can be seen in the upper part. The Rate knob disappears when set to the minimum width:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Zlo...ew?usp=sharing

[Vagelis]

Originally Posted by Jason Brian Merrill

v6.12+dev0701 - July 1 2020

+ Track panels: optionally show each FX in the FX parameter list

This is amazing! But i wish if we could right click on the effect and if at the top there was a dropdown menu with the fx parameters that would allows us to show it's envelope parameters fast.

Also it would be nice if we could add a fx straight from the TCP panel empty slots.

EDIT: an option to show one fx at a time would help save some space too. E.g if we have 2 fxs loaded, to show 1st or 2nd only with its parameters that would add an envelope when we click on them.

[musicbynumbers]

Originally Posted by Vagelis

This is amazing! But i wish if we could right click on the effect and if at the top there was a dropdown menu with the fx parameters that would allows us to show it's envelope parameters fast.

Also it would be nice if we could add a fx straight from the TCP panel empty slots.

There is a drop down at the bottom of the last effect that allows you to add a parameter (in the empty area when you left click) and if you right click the effect you can add effects.

Justin. If dragging effects around is very difficult what about adding a "move up" and "move down" option when right clicking on the effect?

[Vagelis]

Originally Posted by musicbynumbers

There is a drop down at the bottom of the last effect that allows you to add a parameter (in the empty area when you left click) and if you right click the effect you can add effects.

Justin. If dragging effects around is very difficult what about adding a "move up" and "move down" option when right clicking on the effect?

Thank you i'm aware of this, what i meant was to add parameter also when you right click on the effect not in the empty slot for saving some space.

Also adding a new fx can be done only if i right click on a preexisting fx, what i meant was to add fx from an empty slot as well

The procedure i have in mind goes like: Add an fx from an empty slot, right click on the fx shows the fx parameters where when we click on them it adds an envelope.
If we have more than one fxs on tcp slots, an option for right click to show one at a time (toggle). (This one not sure if it's possible though)

[mehmethan]

+ Track panels: optionally show each FX in the FX parameter list


Aligning Fxs and parameters vertically would be great in default theme like in the attached picture.

[Justin]

Originally Posted by Jason Brian Merrill

also mouse modifiers for bypass/etc....

That should already be supported (though drag/drop reordering is not yet).

[vitalker]

Originally Posted by Justin

That should already be supported (though drag/drop reordering is not yet).

It would be useful to have one extra empty slot to add plugins with less clicks.