Old 05-05-2019, 04:22 PM   #1
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Hello, I was a FL Studio user for years and now few days ago I switched to Reaper. But now I noticed that with the same instrumental VST's (guitar, piano, nexus, sylenth1) under the same conditions (empty master, empty mixer(no EQ,no Reverb, etc.) Reaper sounds so bad. FL Studio sounds much fuller especially in the low frequenies and Reaper sounds very thin and very poor in bass, and even the high end sound a bit overboosted (minimal distortion). I wonder If it's the software itself or can I fix that in the settings? I expected DAW's to sound all the same..
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Old 05-05-2019, 04:33 PM   #2
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sounds like a simple thing to test by rendering two files and comparing.
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I don't know what's wrong. The VSTi's should sound the same. The DAW doesn't affect "sound quality" until you start adding effects, or unless something is terribly wrong.


And if something is "terribly wrong" you'll get "glitches". It's pretty hard to "accidently" reduce the bass in software.
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sounds like a simple thing to test by rendering two files and comparing.
Hello, thx for ur reply. I rendered both in Reaper and in FL studio (same render settings). It doesnt change anything. The Reaper version unfortunately sounds still sh*t..
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Old 05-05-2019, 05:16 PM   #5
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I just uploaded both Samples on soundcloud,so u can hear the difference:

Reaper: https://soundcloud.com/mfb-music/reaper-sample-1

FL Studio: https://soundcloud.com/mfb-music/fl-studio-sample

I think you will understand what I mean. As I said same coniditions (Mix, Master, Render etc.)

Interesting was that the Reaper version (wav) is almost half the size ( Reaper 10mb file; FL Studio 17mb wav file)

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Old 05-05-2019, 05:24 PM   #6
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Pretty sure those MIDI notes are not in the same octave.

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MIDI octave name display offset:[ -1 ] octaves

(I use -1)
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Pretty sure those MIDI notes are not in the same octave.

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(I use -1)
Oops, ur right.. my mistake, the first melody was an octave higher. But it doesnt rly change anthing, it still sounds so bad. It's a bit louder on Reaper (not crucial) BUT the sound itself is so different. As I said the Reaper version distorts and has almost no low's.
Here is the, to the FL studio equivalent, new version: https://soundcloud.com/mfb-music/reaper-sample-1
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Old 05-05-2019, 05:39 PM   #8
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Here is the, to the FL studio equivalent, new version: https://soundcloud.com/mfb-music/reaper-sample-1
That link is the same as the first one you posted.
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Old 05-05-2019, 05:40 PM   #9
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That link is the same as the first one you posted.
No, I just changed it on both posts.
I took down the old link completly. Only the new version links are here now.
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Old 05-05-2019, 05:51 PM   #10
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The REAPER link is still one octave higher (not just the melody). As for the distortion, it's clipping because the volume is too high. If all volume controls are set the same way and plugin settings are identical, maybe the velocity of the MIDI notes is higher? What VSTi is this?

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The REAPER link is still one octave higher. As for the distortion, it's clipping because the volume is too high. If all volume controls are set the same way and plugin settings are identical, maybe the velocity of the MIDI notes is higher? What VSTi is this?
I can guarantee you, now it's not an octave higher. VST is DSK Asian DreamZ.
With lower volume it doesnt change so much, unfortunately still very bad quality, I tested it. It's not about loudness its more about the sound that sounds way thinner and distorting.
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Old 05-05-2019, 06:03 PM   #12
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We can see that it's clipping and can hear that the notes are different.
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We can see that it's clipping and can hear that the notes are different.
I double checked it, the notes are same. And with low volume it doesnt sound better, I tested it. It's about the sound itself. The FL version sounds much fuller, more bass/low's and clean.
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Try lowering them an octave anyway.
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Try lowering them an octave anyway.
Hello, I tried that, and yes..
If you play a D#4 in FL Studio its equal with a D#3 in Reaper.
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You can change that in Preferences > Media > MIDI so that they both agree on the same D#4 if you want. See EpicSounds' previous message above.
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You can change that in Preferences > Media > MIDI so that they both agree on the same D#4 if you want. See EpicSounds' previous message above.
Thanks Guys! All solved!
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so are they both now exactly the same?
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so are they both now exactly the same?
Yes, same.
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Yes, same.
Perhaps you could now rename the title of the thread?
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