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02-27-2018, 04:21 PM
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Reaper not seeing midi keyboard
I've just bought a Scarlett 214 2nd gen interface and am regretting it already due to latency I never experienced with my old Line6 KB37 but that's another story. I have an old Yamaha PSR313 keyboard that I've connected to the Scarlett with new midi cables but Reaper does not detect it in Prefs Midi Devices. Any idea why this may be happening? Cheers
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02-28-2018, 12:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by barrymk
I have an old Yamaha PSR313 keyboard that I've connected to the Scarlett with new midi cables but Reaper does not detect it in Prefs Midi Devices.
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Just in case: do the MIDI ports of the Scarlett show up (since those are the ones which need to be enabled in Reaper)?
Otherwise check if there's a setting on the Yamaha PSR313 necessary to enable the MIDI-I/O.
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02-28-2018, 05:48 AM
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Hi yes the midi led is on and there does not appear to be a switch or setting on the keyboard to actuate midi. Yamaha in its wisdom does not offer a legacy manual. That helps.
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02-28-2018, 06:04 AM
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With some fiddling around I can at last get the keyboard to record midi in Reaper so that's good. Now how can I get it to play and record my EZKeys piano? I can record the piano voice on the Keyboard and then get the recorded midi to playback the EZKeys voice but is there a way to have it record while hearing the EZKeys sound and not the Yamaha?
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02-28-2018, 06:12 AM
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Yes, turn off the local sound generation on the Yamaha
Then RecArm and set Input Monitor for the EZDrummer track, Select the keyboard as the input and off you go. You may need to set the keyboard to MIDi channel 10 (Or map the input to Channel 10, in Reaper's MIDIi input sub-menu (right-click the RecArm button).
To help out others, what "fiddling about" did you need to do?
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02-28-2018, 06:19 AM
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Darkstar thanks for that manual I couldn't find it in the Yamaha site! I've turned off the local keyboard as suggested in the manual but still get no sound from EZKeys when recording. It still isn't showing in the Devices list but perhaps as the midi signal comes via the Scarlett it doesn't need to? Appreciate any help as I have no real feeling for midi.
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02-28-2018, 06:22 AM
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devices.gif is a Google page !
The Yamaha will not show up under its own name - it would appear as a Focusrite MIDI device (you can give it an Alias later).
That big red blob on tracks.gif is probably the "MIDI received indicator. I would record some MIDI playing and have a look at it in the MIDI Editor /view mode:Event List and check the MIDI channel.
Check out the check-list in the Reaper User Guide, 3.40.
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02-28-2018, 06:31 AM
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The gif didn't save properly. I reset the midi input to the Focusrite so probably messed up there as I'd been trying any setting I could find.
I really dislike the Scarlett as to avoid the awful latency when recording audio you have to turn off record monitoring so it was off. For MIDI though it has to be on. What great mind thought of that?
Many thanks to both of you for helping me to sort this out but for anyone contemplating a Focusrite Scarlett 214 2nd Gen, avoid like the plague. I wish I'd stuck with Line6 and that's saying something.
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02-28-2018, 06:34 AM
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That looks a lot better.
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02-28-2018, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by solger
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Settings at 44100 and 128 (Line6 never needed less than 512). I ran the optimisation routine and installed the latest drivers when I installed the device. I mistakenly thought I was moving to a more up to date machine with zero latency like my ancient KB37. Duh!
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02-28-2018, 12:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by barrymk
Settings at 44100 and 128 (Line6 never needed less than 512). I ran the optimisation routine and installed the latest drivers when I installed the device. I mistakenly thought I was moving to a more up to date machine with zero latency like my ancient KB37. Duh!
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Just as a FWIW, I often use a Scarlett 8i6 2nd Gen (using OS X) and never experienced any latency issues different than any other interface. I can go up and down the buffer settings and they all work as expected. Overdubs no problem with latency.
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03-01-2018, 01:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by barrymk
Settings at 44100 and 128 (Line6 never needed less than 512). I ran the optimisation routine and installed the latest drivers when I installed the device. I mistakenly thought I was moving to a more up to date machine with zero latency like my ancient KB37. Duh!
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Very strange.
Did you also already try to run Resplendence LatencyMon in order to check its Drivers Tab for any driver entries with high execution time (which might be causing problems)?
EDIT: Although I don't think this will necessarily make any difference, maybe also check if the same sample rate (44100) is set for the 2i4 Playback/Recording Devices in the Windows Sound Control Panel (via Properties > Advanced Tab), just in case.
Last edited by solger; 03-01-2018 at 02:10 AM.
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03-01-2018, 04:06 AM
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Hello vdubreeze my old Line6 KB37 had zero latency and I could have record monitoring on. The so called direct monitoring system on the 214 simply doesn't do the job.
Solger I set up the card with 44100 24 bit on record and p[layback, this is my standard setting. Never heard of Resplendence LatencyMon but I'll look into it thanks.
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03-01-2018, 01:51 PM
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Believe the issue is with the Focusrite not the PC. Thanks for all the suggestions.
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