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Old 02-13-2018, 04:52 AM   #361
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Airwindows just released their entire back catalogue free and open source on Linux!!

http://www.airwindows.com/airwindows-linux/

There is a little video about most plugins telling you what they do:

https://www.youtube.com/user/airwindows/videos

With this and the u-he, I think the days of needing Windows for music production just ended! The quality and scope of the Airwindows back catalogue covers everything from console emulation to special mathematically perfect gain

Not long ago these were all commercial price plugins, so if you use them then support the guy on https://www.patreon.com/airwindows

PS I have no connection with him, i am just sharing the good news.
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Airwindows just released their entire back catalogue free and open source on Linux!!
But, but, just generic guis
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Airwindows just released their entire back catalogue free and open source on Linux!!...
Thanks, will check'em out.
also http://www.discodsp.com/ sales end february, now hopefully that Bliss sampler plug gets on sale soon..

btw, anyone tested u-he latest linux 7015 builds, I tested only MFM2 but I could not get it to detect after a flush db and rescan, however 4408 works..
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btw, anyone tested u-he latest linux 7015 builds, I tested only MFM2 but I could not get it to detect after a flush db and rescan, however 4408 works..
Yeah, I tested u-he latest Repro-5 linux 7015 build and reported back in the KVR thread. It's not quite there yet, but I have 95% of the GUI and the sound is perfect with the VST3 version. Still no MIDI learn.
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With this and the u-he, I think the days of needing Windows for music production just ended!
I don't think so. When all of a user's DAW configurations can be done without going to the command line (like Windows and Macs) then we can consider the possibility that Linux can start replacing Windows/Mac DAWs.
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Old 02-13-2018, 09:23 PM   #366
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The commandline is a huge asset, with a vast array of tools,
solutions, and shortcuts. As such, it is an ongoing source of education,
and a solid bridge over troubled waters. There are plenty
of linux eye-candie interfaces, and using reaper or bitwig linux versions with the current range of plugins and utilities certainly won't
force anyone into heavy or repeated use of a terminal. I look forward to learning about the Airwindows collection.
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:38 AM   #367
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I don't think so. When all of a user's DAW configurations can be done without going to the command line (like Windows and Macs) then we can consider the possibility that Linux can start replacing Windows/Mac DAWs.
That is an interesting point. Some people just want to click a .exe and have it do everything for you.

I am about 1.5 years into using Linux, and I remember how confusing and seemingly pointless it was to type:

./program-to-run

when in a directory, rather than:

program-to-run

and also having to sometimes make an executable executable, it actually made me angry that someone was MAKING me do all this stupid work and wasting my time. I can appreciate this angle.

I think the solutions are very simple, it just means that Linux developers have to now provide for 'windows users'. They have to imagine how a Windows user would get confused by something as simple as the command line and make it easy for them. It will be technically very easy, but a 'paradigm shift'.
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That is an interesting point. Some people just want to click a .exe and have it do everything for you.

I am about 1.5 years into using Linux, and I remember how confusing and seemingly pointless it was to type:

./program-to-run

when in a directory, rather than:

program-to-run

and also having to sometimes make an executable executable, it actually made me angry that someone was MAKING me do all this stupid work and wasting my time. I can appreciate this angle.

I think the solutions are very simple, it just means that Linux developers have to now provide for 'windows users'. They have to imagine how a Windows user would get confused by something as simple as the command line and make it easy for them. It will be technically very easy, but a 'paradigm shift'.
Dunno, I think sometimes it's much easier to just give a terminal command to do something, instead of trying to explain how to do it in some gui program, also kde vs gnome, etc...

Personally I think a windows user starting to use linux, should be prepared for a learning period and that it might take a few weeks/months to get up to speed...

On the other hand there is a lot distros could do, one of the first hurdles is the rt/memlock config issue that most new users are confronted with.. Is this really nescessary? Personally I'd like to see especially audio oriented distros ship with a realtime group, like that the user would only have to be told that he needs to add his user to the realtime group, or who knows, maybe audio distros should just default to giving realtime privs to newly created users.

In any case I think it's a lost cause trying to turn linux into windows.. There are so many different DEs, WM, apps, etc, that it's hard to put your finger on exactly what linux is, and IMO impossible to get them all to turn linux into something a windows user will understand without having to learn new things..
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I'd be wasting RAM if i ran my giant linuxsampler template through a GUI. I can save the RAM for great streaming performance instead. That's why Reaper's simple generic UI for plugins is a terrific idea. Takes all the pain out of trying to understand some of the more esoteric interfaces developers seem to think are required. Give me a decent algorithm over a magnolia background any day.

Bash scripting and coding should be taught in primary schools, imho.

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p.s. But VI or Emacs? Hmmm, not an easy choice to make...

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Dunno, I think sometimes it's much easier to just give a terminal command to do something, instead of trying to explain how to do it in some gui program, also kde vs gnome, etc...

Personally I think a windows user starting to use linux, should be prepared for a learning period and that it might take a few weeks/months to get up to speed...

On the other hand there is a lot distros could do, one of the first hurdles is the rt/memlock config issue that most new users are confronted with.. Is this really nescessary? Personally I'd like to see especially audio oriented distros ship with a realtime group, like that the user would only have to be told that he needs to add his user to the realtime group, or who knows, maybe audio distros should just default to giving realtime privs to newly created users.

In any case I think it's a lost cause trying to turn linux into windows.. There are so many different DEs, WM, apps, etc, that it's hard to put your finger on exactly what linux is, and IMO impossible to get them all to turn linux into something a windows user will understand without having to learn new things..
I certainly don't want to turn Linux into Windows! I was mainly thinking of an easier way for users to install plugins and setup audio for the DAW with Jack/ALSA or Pulse.

Flatpak is a great distribution solution, but I understand the argument against it. Having up-to-date repos would be the perfect solution, but someone else than the developer needs to be working on that full time.

I agree that the distros really could help pro audio users a lot, you have made me think it would be a great idea for me to get more involved with Fedora and talk to them about audio.

So many Linux audio woes are just pointless. If a team of 'ambassadors' for professional audio was formed and spent a while contributing to discussions and fixes for audio across the most used distros I think Linux audio could be simplified by a factor of 10x!

Redhat are working on https://pipewire.org/ .

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PipeWire is a project that aims to greatly improve handling of audio and video under Linux. It aims to support the usecases currently handled by both PulseAudio and Jack and at the same time provide same level of powerful handling of Video input and output. It also introduces a security model that makes interacting with audio and video devices from containerized applications easy, with supporting Flatpak applications being the primary goal. Alongside Wayland and Flatpak we expect PipeWire to provide a core building block for the future of Linux application development.
It is already in Fedora 27 in a limited form, and is under heavy development, it is happening!

https://github.com/PipeWire/pipewire...code-frequency

This could fix everything in the future, so maybe its just a case of we have passed the tipping point and things are just going to get better and better from now on
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I certainly don't want to turn Linux into Windows! I was mainly thinking of an easier way for users to install plugins and setup audio for the DAW with Jack/ALSA or Pulse.
I suppose in principle it's quite easy, but each distro has it's own package manager. On archlinux we've traditionally had few audio apps and plugins in the repos and people have had to build/install things from the so called aur. Mostly an automated process but still somewhat of a hassle. But we have a new packager that is aiming to bring most any audio software available into the repos. In principle it could be as easy as typing "pacman -S reaper distrho-vst", and you'd have reaper with some extra plugins installed. Then click on the reaper icon added to menuing system and bob is your uncle.

But package managing software tends to vary from distro to distro, in fact one of the things that distinguishes distros. Some are command line, some have a GUI, etc.

I think if we could get the main distros to provide a mechanism to easily configure rt/memlock privs and a way to automatically set the sound card interrupt priority, and then get repositories for most linux audio software we would be in a pretty good spot. In fact possibly better than windows, as there mostly is no need to trawl the internet to find a download for some binary we need, we just install it as any other software we normally use.

Of course once we step away from that, things get thornier... For instance to install u-he plugins, you have to download and extract multiple archives, then run the install.sh scripts, and finally realize that they aren't installed in /usr/lib/vst, but rather in ~/.vst instead... Though in the case of archlinux someone actually created build/install scripts for the aur, so you get them installed into (iirc) /opt and then symlinks created in /usr/lib/vst, so that would be quite similar to just installing packages from the manager and things just work.

Many other examples around where it's similar but the exact steps are different. On windows it's mostly surf until you find the download link, and run the graphical installer. Still many of us fiddle with the install in greater detail than this on windows too

For setting the soundcard interrupt automatically I have written a couple of scripts and udev rules, so that this happens automatically, but it got more complicated than I thought due to systemd/udev and I haven't finished it and pushed it. I am also working with the new archlinux packager, to get more audio related software into the main repos, to get the realtime kernel in there and to try to convince the distro of creating a realtime group. But of course seeing that this is a distro it sometimes ends in unforeseen problems and discussion with other people that don't agree, we'll see what the future brings on that point.

Getting active and doing something for your distro is of course the pragmatic solution, does more than just talking about what is wrong IIRC there used to be something called CCRMA for fedora, but don't know if that is very active anymore?

Also nowadays pulseaudio and jack do coexist and work quite well together, it's just a question of the distro setting it up properly. It's actually quite cool as for instance it's easy to pipe youtube audio into reaper via jack while playing guitar monitored through a software amp at low latency, something that isn't all that easy in the windows world. So in a certain sense we are already ahead of windows users...

But still in the end analysis I think anyone with no experience that decides to run linux will have to realize that there is a learning curve, and it might even mean having to learn how to use a terminal to input commands...
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Actually considering for instance wave plugins and the possibility of having to reinstall windows to get everything working again (or to get really dirty in removing things and editing the registry), I'd say that just running the package manager to remove the newly installed plugins and to come back to starting point is vastly preferable to what you might be facing on windows... But in oh so many ways, apples and pears
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Wise words Jack!

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For setting the soundcard interrupt automatically I have written a couple of scripts
could you post a link or copy of them here? would be cool to take a look and try them on fedora.

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It's actually quite cool as for instance it's easy to pipe youtube audio into reaper via jack
exactly what i want to do! no idea how using the Fedora Chrome or Firefox, I assume a specially compiled version is needed?
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The commandline is a huge asset...
I think you guys might have misunderstood the point of what I was writing. I wasn't bashing (pun intended) Linux or the command line - I'm a long time Linux user myself. I set up and used Ardour on Debian over 10 years ago and I installed the first Linux version of Reaper (it didn't do anything at the time but I got it installed ). What I'm saying is that Linux, both as an OS and as a DAW, can't be completely set up and configured without using the command line, and that is a major stumbling block for the overwhelming majority of Windows/Mac users as well as the majority of musicians. Most computer users, and most musicians (present company excepted), are not propeller heads and have a hard enough time using an intuitive GUI - just look at the posts here from folks having a hard time setting up MIDI or audio interface set up. There's nothing wrong or inferior with being "computer illiterate" but those types want their computers to just work and most have no interest in opening a terminal... in fact, the terminal is a turn off to those kind of computer users/musicians. And because of that, until the terminal is an option and not a requirement, Linux will never become widely used, as an OS or as a DAW. And this has nothing to do with the ways that the terminal saves time or is easier (i.e. I always do all of my updates in the terminal - usually faster than opening the software manager). But using the command line is intimidating to non-technical people so they will avoid it - and Linux. That's my point.
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could you post a link or copy of them here? would be cool to take a look and try them on fedora.
I'll try to get it done this week.

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exactly what i want to do! no idea how using the Fedora Chrome or Firefox, I assume a specially compiled version is needed?
Don't know. On archlinux chromium uses pulseaudio by default. If you run jack2 then pulse will yield to jack and automatically get a jack sink (you might need to run pavucontrol or similar to redirect the audio stream).

With jack1 you have to run "pacmd load-module module-jack-sink channels=2" after jack is up and running.
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I don't think you tried to bash at all and I understand what you are saying... The OS wars seems to have died down on the forums after cockos made a linux version, before when it was discussed we used to have long threads on the drawbacks of linux, the same about os/x before a port was published.

Though I think that anyone that wants to embark on a linux journey for audio (or anything else on linux for that matter) ought to be aware that things might be different, and some learning is required. Otherwise just don't try it at all..!

IMO linux is a kick ass OS, and marvellous for the tinkerer. You can customize it in so many ways that they appear to be completely different OSs. In a certain manner this is probably why there are so many distros that try to make things easier for the user. But you can install a basic system and then handpick the components you want to use, no need to be spoonfed either

Though I do think that there is no intrinsic need in using the command line It ought to be perfectly possible to install an ubuntu, add the kxstudio repos and install a load of software for working with audio without touching the command line at all. Probably possible to extract reaper from a gui too, but yes reaper could have a gui installer, or be installed from the package manager. Though I know that cockos doesn't want it to be packaged by distros yet, and prefers it to be downloaded from lol (so probably someday).

But one ought also to be aware that there might be disadvantages, like lacking hardware support, or having to run your usb soundcard in class compatible mode with no dsp or mixer control, availability of plugins (or tinkering to get them working), or god forbid, even having to open up a terminal and paste something from you google result.

If I had to work professionally with audio, I'd probably be using windows or os/x, and maybe even not reaper depending on the boss or client. As a hobbyist, bob is my uncle and reaper for linux is the dogs bollocks
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Redhat are working on https://pipewire.org/ .

It is already in Fedora 27 in a limited form, and is under heavy development, it is happening!

https://github.com/PipeWire/pipewire...code-frequency

This could fix everything in the future, so maybe its just a case of we have passed the tipping point and things are just going to get better and better from now on
Hopefully someone will be integrating BlackMagic's Centos based video editor,
getting a solid integrated audio/video sytem would be a big help
for people wanting a linux based A/V studio.
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extremely early days for davinci resolve on linux. major things not up yet. also seems to only work reliably on redhat or centos. i tried to install it on ubuntu studio per instructions from users on the bmd forums but no luck at all. wanted to try ubuntu studio as that's what i have tried reaper on with very good results. resolve, not so much. next will try to get reaper running on centos, go the other way and see if that works.

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extremely early days for davinci resolve on linux. major things not up yet. also seems to only work reliably on redhat or centos. i tried to install it on ubuntu studio per instructions from users on the bmd forums but no luck at all. wanted to try ubuntu studio as that's what i have tried reaper on with very good results. resolve, not so much. next will try to get reaper running on centos, go the other way and see if that works.

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I had Reaper running on the latest Centos with no problems. Here are the parts of my immediate post-install script that would probably be relevant, hope it saves you some time! I spent weeks of research, and went back to Fedora simply because I could not get the fonts to look as good for lack of a certain package:

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# CentOS 7.4 Install Script 20-12-17 FINAL

# update everything
sudo yum update -y

# install the repositories
sudo yum install epel-release -y
sudo yum install --nogpgcheck https://download1.rpmfusion.org/free...e-7.noarch.rpm https://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonf...e-7.noarch.rpm -y

# install packages from the enabled repositories
sudo yum install chromium chromium-libs-media-freeworld ntfs-3g ffmpeg fuse-exfat unrar jack-audio-connection-kit -y

# change pulse audio settings for max quality on scarlett 6i6
sudo sed -i "s/; default-sample-format = s16le/default-sample-format = s32le/g" /etc/pulse/daemon.conf
sudo sed -i "s/; resample-method = speex-float-1/resample-method = speex-float-10/g" /etc/pulse/daemon.conf

# add our current user to the jackuser group
sudo usermod -a -G jackuser "$USERNAME"

# config jack
printf "# Default limits for users of jack-audio-connection-kit\n\n@jackuser - rtprio 98\n@jackuser - memlock unlimited\n\n@pulse-rt - rtprio 20\n@pulse-rt - nice -20" | sudo tee /etc/security/limits.d/95-jack.conf
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thanks much for this, david. will try to give it a go this weekend. looks to be quite helpful.

my centos install was done via the bmd davinci resolve iso. i've been disappointed that they don't make something ubuntu-friendly as the ubuntu studio distro seems to make a lot of setup much easier. bmd is pretty deeply committed to their hardware oriented structures, though, so i guess it's not surprising that they set something up that's, at its most basic, a dedicated station.

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extremely early days for davinci resolve on linux. major things not up yet. also seems to only work reliably on redhat or centos. i tried to install it on ubuntu studio per instructions from users on the bmd forums but no luck at all. wanted to try ubuntu studio as that's what i have tried reaper on with very good results. resolve, not so much. next will try to get reaper running on centos, go the other way and see if that works.

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Would be great if Fernando, king of CCRMA, could get resolv running
in Fedora. I had Fedora installed for awhile,
when Bitwig was still young, and it wasn't hard to keep
the audio system stable and productive. Centos may even
be better. Bitwig is still Ubuntu only at a support level,
although it works elsewhere. Sort of reverse
the resolv situation. Commercial dev hours are still in short supply,
and/or major distro packaging needs more base-system uniformity.

Getting distro maintainers agreeing on even a C library selection
is like herding (hungry) cats in an aviary.

Good luck in your conquest!
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Resolve works fine for me on Kubuntu... just had to symlink a couple of libraries... bigger issue was the lack of audio support in linux (maybe v14 works better?) and no h.264 decode/encode. Also had to kill (unneeded) DavinciPanelDaemon after startup to prevent CPU runaway, but in v14 beta that wasn't needed. So: still have to use it on windows for now (and it can't encode 4K H.264 on Windows 8.1 due to a bug in windows that will never be fixed. :-( )

Here are my personal notes for installing it, in case useful:

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sudo apt-get install libssl-dev
sudo ln -s /usr/lib /usr/lib64
# these two I moved existing links to .old versions:
sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgstreamer-1.0.so.0 /usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0
sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgstbase-1.0.so.0 /usr/lib/libgstbase-0.10.so.0
# these two as they were:
sudo ln -s /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.0 /usr/lib/libssl.so.10
sudo ln -s /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypto.so.1.0.0 /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.10

Download from https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve
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run as regular user from /opt/resolve/bin/resolve
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Old 02-18-2018, 04:34 PM   #383
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For people getting errors compiling for GDK2:

Changing "gdk_x11_window_get_xid" in swell-generic-gdk.cpp to "GDK_WINDOW_XID" solves the error here.
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Old 02-19-2018, 08:52 AM   #384
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For people getting errors compiling for GDK2:

Changing "gdk_x11_window_get_xid" in swell-generic-gdk.cpp to "GDK_WINDOW_XID" solves the error here.
Oops yeah thanks fixing...

but really, still GDK2?!
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Old 02-19-2018, 09:30 AM   #385
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I'm not using it just remembered this fix.
Until lately (until I upgraded from Ubuntu 14.04) I preferably used Gdk2 to not trigger this (see also here). Not a big deal though as it only showed up with 14.04 on a rare corner case after your fix.

Not sure about reasons why others are using it.
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Because some dev put it in there? B)
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Old 02-19-2018, 01:43 PM   #387
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Oops still GDK2?!
I might be a oddball, but I still don't have any gtk3 applications,
and fltk is king where I sit
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Oops
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Question, how do I link usb MIDI keyboard to REAPER in linux (manjaro)?
I can see my keyboard with aconnect, and confirm it's receiving signals, however I'm not seeing it as available MIDI input in REAPER. Do I need to link these two somehow, and how do I do that?
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Question, how do I link usb MIDI keyboard to REAPER in linux (manjaro)?
I can see my keyboard with aconnect, and confirm it's receiving signals, however I'm not seeing it as available MIDI input in REAPER. Do I need to link these two somehow, and how do I do that?
There are 2 type of midi on Linux, ALSA and JACK midi. Reaper only supports the latter while actual midi devices support the former. This means that you need to bridge them for it to work.

You need to run reaper with the jack backend. If you use JACK2 you have to run the additional a2jmidid, and iirc with JACK1 you have to use the ALSA sequencer, so use the -Xseq parameter. Finally you have to connect the alsa and jack midiports, something which can be done in the qjackctl GUI or with other tools.

Hopefully reaper will add support for ALSA midi someday too!

Note that I'm not a midi user, so the above might be inaccurate in some aspects.
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Question, how do I link usb MIDI keyboard to REAPER in linux (manjaro)?
I can see my keyboard with aconnect, and confirm it's receiving signals, however I'm not seeing it as available MIDI input in REAPER. Do I need to link these two somehow, and how do I do that?
For me it only took these steps to get MIDI running on my Scarlett 6i6 USB interface on Fedora 27:

# install jack
sudo dnf install jack-audio-connection-kit

# add current user to jack user group
sudo usermod -a -G jackuser "$USERNAME"

# Config Jack assuming jack has created the 95-jack.conf file we are going to overwrite
printf "# Default limits for users of jack-audio-connection-kit\n\n@jackuser - rtprio 98\n@jackuser - memlock unlimited\n\n@pulse-rt - rtprio 20\n@pulse-rt - nice -20" | sudo tee /etc/security/limits.d/95-jack.conf

In Reaper audio device settings select audio system 'jack', I tick the 'auto-start jackd' (and the other two boxes) and type the following into the box:

/usr/bin/jackd -dalsa -dhw:USB -r96000 -p128 -n3 -Xseq

(-r96000 the sample rate, -p128 the buffer size... put what you want)

go to audio > midi devices > select the device and enable the input.. sorted!
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tried to search but didn't find it. is sws available in linux?

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Have a look at: https://wiki.cockos.com/wiki/index.php/REAPER_for_Linux

There is both SWS and ReaPack.
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wow. this is great news. thanks, jack. mostly martian to me from the first glance i gave it but it did look like i might make some sense of it if i spent some time. i don't compile much.

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wow. this is great news. thanks, jack. mostly martian to me from the first glance i gave it but it did look like i might make some sense of it if i spent some time. i don't compile much.
There is a prebuilt sws on lol/dev. Try that one if you don't want to build it yourself. Just download the archive, extract the .so and copy it to ~/.config/REAPER/UserPlugins/ or wherever you keep the user data.
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