Old 03-05-2019, 08:59 AM   #1
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I often download commercial videos for references from youtube and the video quality and audio quality are great...I know that the audio is an mp3 but it is fine for what I need...

BUT they are like ONLY 18 mbs!! Now the video Quality in REAPER is GREAT too BUT How can I then convert it to be 18 mbs and not 200 mbs, What are people using? I cannot find it anywhere in my google search...

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Old 03-05-2019, 09:33 AM   #2
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VLC Media Player has a Convert/Save function that will convert video and audio. I don't remember all the options it provides for conversion, but you might check that.
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VLC Media Player has a Convert/Save function that will convert video and audio. I don't remember all the options it provides for conversion, but you might check that.

Thx toleolu,

I have tried this and not drastically reducing mb size for me....
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Sorry, misunderstood what you were trying to do. I confused your MB file size with bit rate.

To reduce the actual file size of a video, your options are a bit limited. You can try reducing the resolution of the video, i.e. make the video size smaller, something like 640 X 480, possibly convert the MP4 to MPEG, or shorten the length of the video.

I seem to recall that VLC Media Player had some type of default setting for Web video. Something like that is probably going to give you the smallest file size possible for the video you're working on.

Video contains lots of data and it doesn't compress much beyond what the codecs can do.
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Use the entire ffmpeg package for command line and youtube-dl to get results.
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What are you using the completed video for that requires the smaller file size?
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Use the entire ffmpeg package for command line and youtube-dl to get results.
Hey Lowellben,

Is this in REAPER or VLC?
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What are you using the completed video for that requires the smaller file size?
I'm constantly uploading videos for streaming and the higher mb size is a problem for some people to stream with low internet issues it seems...
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Video contains lots of data and it doesn't compress much beyond what the codecs can do.
Ok, That's great info...So how do those guys get such quality and smaller sizes with their Vids to begin with...
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Use the entire ffmpeg package for command line and youtube-dl to get results.
Second the ffmpeg recommendation.

Stuff like denoising really helps reduce video size, most of the time I just use the defaults of the atadenoise filter. And ffmpeg gives you complete control of the bitrates. It's really indispensable for video.

Also a second for youtube-dl, though it means having Python which is good but maybe not the easiest thing. (youtube-dl can also DL other sites, like C-SPAN, quite a victorinox of a utility.)
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are you comparing your video before uploading to youtube to a video already processed by youtube?

Pretty sure they manage all this for you.
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If you're talking streaming videos, then that's a different beast altogether. Lots of variables involved, not the least of which is the end users internet speed.

Are the source videos that you are streaming located on your computer, or are they on a service somewhere?
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If you're talking streaming videos, then that's a different beast altogether. Lots of variables involved, not the least of which is the end users internet speed.

Are the source videos that you are streaming located on your computer, or are they on a service somewhere?
They uploaded on Google drive which does a great job of streaming I have found...
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are you comparing your video before uploading to youtube to a video already processed by youtube?

Pretty sure they manage all this for you.
I'm just downloading the vid from YouTube, it looks good and sounds good.. Not sure who does what as far as processing.... But I would like to cut down my videos sizes for streaming and saving space on Google drive if possible...
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OK. So the files are sitting on Google somewhere and your users are just playing the files.

One thing you might want to check is what, if any, processing Google does to the videos you upload. To Epic Sounds point about You Tube, regardless of what format your uploaded video is in, You Tube is going to process it to their specs. I'm not sure what Google does, but that might be a place to start. If they are doing any kind of processing or formatting on the videos you upload, that's going to limit your options. I'm sure Google Drive has documentation/specs on that somewhere.

With respect to your users with limited internet speed, and saving space on your Google Drive, the only real option you have is reducing the resolution of the video and using a high compression codec. MPEG use to be one of the higher compression codecs, but there are probably other options out there now.

You will probably need to play around with different formats as a test to see what which format gives you the best overall results.
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Something I forgot to mention.

When you download a video from You Tube, if you right click that file and select properties, it should tell you what the resolution, codecs, fps, bit rate, etc. are for that file. You can also insert the source video into Reaper and find those details in item properties, or something like that.

Set your Reaper project settings to match those settings as close as possible.

Something that might be happening is the downloaded file is at a particular resolution, fps, bit rate, etc. and your project settings are set at higher rates which will make the rendered video file size larger than the original.
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Something I forgot to mention.

When you download a video from You Tube, if you right click that file and select properties, it should tell you what the resolution, codecs, fps, bit rate, etc. are for that file. You can also insert the source video into Reaper and find those details in item properties, or something like that.

Set your Reaper project settings to match those settings as close as possible.

Something that might be happening is the downloaded file is at a particular resolution, fps, bit rate, etc. and your project settings are set at higher rates which will make the rendered video file size larger than the original.
Wow, Great stuff Toleolu!! Thank you I will check that out (-:
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MediaInfo is the best for this right click details.
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You can also see the used codecs (and some other info) when you rightclick on a video in YouTube directly -> 'Stats for nerds'.

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Old 03-05-2019, 05:56 PM   #20
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My question is, how the heck are you downloading videos from YouTube????
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youtube-dl, jdownloader, firefox extensions, chrome extensions, um, that's just a few
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My question is, how the heck are you downloading videos from YouTube????
I just use my video capture software to record the video and Reaper to record the audio. That's what I did for this video of Jim Bob Gairrett playing his steel guitar.

Then I created my own steel guitar track, using my Midi Steel Guitar to go along with Jim's video.

https://youtu.be/v0SuOuMRcyM

There might be an easier way to capture the video, I haven't really explored that.
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I just use my video capture software to record the video and Reaper to record the audio. That's what I did for this video of Jim Bob Gairrett playing his steel guitar.

Then I created my own steel guitar track, using my Midi Steel Guitar to go along with Jim's video.

https://youtu.be/v0SuOuMRcyM

There might be an easier way to capture the video, I haven't really explored that.
NICE ONE Todd! Incredible midi performance my friend! :-P
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NICE ONE Todd! Incredible midi performance my friend! :-P
Thank you onewayout, that one was a real challenge but I managed to get it close, although Jims steel track sounds much better.

I'm actually talking to Jim Gairrett, to get his okay to use this video. He's a great guy and was rather impressed with my midi steel too. He might some more stuff I can use. He's one of the best steel guitar players I've ever heard, there are not a lot of them around.
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youtube-dl, jdownloader, firefox extensions, chrome extensions, um, that's just a few
Cool! I'll have to check those out. Thanks!
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I am using YouTube Video Downloader or Video Downloader professional Chrome Extension (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...iffojpinpmmpil), the same is for Mozilla - Youtube Downloader Lite (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...rc=recommended)

It is easy to download any videos from browser. Always use them.
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I tried an add-on with Firefox and the quality of the download is not anywhere near the quality I see on YouTube... is there anything that comes closer?
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Firefox add on Download Helper works great. The only thing I don't like about it is this converter it wants to install for webm and some other formats. I started to install that, but it included this file management utility that I didn't want, so I didn't install the converter.

Works great on mp4's and it works with any website video, not just You Tube.
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