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Old 04-29-2014, 02:01 AM   #1
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Default Tutorial: Reaper as live VST host with SWS Live Configs

Hi fellows,

As promised, I'd like to present you my findings in how I've setup Reaper as Live host with Live Configs. I've been working with other Live Host on Windows 8.1 the last year, did some 30 gigs, but got some crashes or some bugs. Needles to say this is problematic in live situations. So I decided to switch over to Reaper.
  • The benefit of Reaper: it has a surprisingly low latency and the stability is very promissing! The memory footprint is very low and startup very quick.
  • Downside: You have to puzzle it all together and the GUI loading is slow, plus some practical problems to solve.




Here's the YOUTUBE video also

Here's the complete Reaper 4.71 x86 download file with my project, if it can be of any educational help:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6I...it?usp=sharing
(any help on how to export the sws settings and other template stuff for download is welcome)

We will add great extra functionality with the extra plugin SWS, which you can download and install from here: http://sws.mj-s.com/ (find the manual here www.standingwaterstudios.com/reaper/REAPERPlusSWS171.pdf)
It contains the Live Config by Jeffos, which is a handy tool and preset selector for live uses. You can find an older manual here http://sws.mj-s.com/download/S&M_LiveConfigs_Ed2.pdf

Live configs permits users to easy arrange the playlist and select from your music keyboard with an assigned midi rotary.

I'll try to explain step by step, because I know when you start of, it's not that simple.


This simple setup tutorial is for live vst FX chains to be used as a synth module. Just select the preset and song as you would on a real synth. I have no special settings for songs or tracks to play along or extra actions. I also don't have an audio input tracks here, but it's the same practice to add.

Here we go:
  • This setup works on Reaper x86 version only, as the windows are bridged in x64 , snapshots don't remember the positions of the FX.
  • I assume you know how to install and where to find the SWS panels from the menu. Easiest way is to set all the panels floating, such as Mixer, master track, custom toolbar, etc,...
  • Start by adding all your tracks you will ever need and add the FX to it. Put up as many tracks as instruments (FX chains) you will be using. Add colors for easy recognition. This is because adding or deleting tracks will affect all snapshots and give problems.
  • Build up your FX chains in the tracks.
    In my case this is a track FX chain: Keyboard split FX (see below) + synth + extra reverb effect.
  • To create keyboard splits, zones and filters: I've used KX Midi Filter. (it has so many practical functions in 1 plugin)
    Just put it in front of your FX you'd like to split or filter the cc. There are other good JS scripts also for this.

    Download
    Kx-Midi-Filter
    VSTi to filter Midi data (only Midi In and Midi Out, no audio).

    Remark:
    I used MBfilter2 and Midi Note Filter EX instead of the above Kx Midi Filter, because there's a bug with the sustain (keeps on sustaining)
    https://stash.reaper.fm/5171/MB_Filter2_1.0.zip
    https://stash.reaper.fm/v/7305/midi_note_filter_ex
  • We will be using the SWS snapshots to remember the FX chains, FX presets, FX locations, mixer settings etc.

    These are my settings:


    You can always easily save a new version of a snapshot by click+Ctrl on it. To delete, click+Alt
  • Show/hide/bypass the tracks you need, you can use the Track Manager for this:
  • Use Screensets to switch between Live and Edit modus.
    Load and save your screensets from the menu or assigned keystrokes.
    I've created 9 buttons to show/hide the mixer, track manager, snapshots, Live configs and monitor panels. I've added also 2 screensets: Hide and Show the panels. (plus a save screenset 2 button for the live view, since my main window is hidden in the corner)


    Switch between Live and Edit screenset modus: (don't mind the song name)
  • Put the vst's floating in place where you would like to see them, for that particular song. Save your snapshot. (Save: Ctrl+click, Del: Alt+click on the snapshot)
  • Preferably you will be showing only some FX windows per song. (you probably want to hide the split FX or other)
    Since SWS snapshots does not remember the floating or docked state of an FX, you can hide unused FX in the right corner. (I also have hidden my main window in the right down corner in the Live Screenset.)
  • In Live Configs (LC), we will determine which song uses which snapshot. Very simple. No input track, no defined track or presets or other actions. (see the recommended LC settings on bottom Notes)
    Just add the snapshot number in the actions column in the LC panel. (click the cell to open the actions window, choose Recall Snapshot X as action, click again the cell, click again the action to add)
    You can copy/cut/paste rows in LC also for easy organizing of your playlist.


    You can show the monitor panel on top of your screen, click the button on the LC panel (double click the monitor window to show the preloaded next preset):
  • Direct selection of the presets: On my Midi keyboard I assigned a midi rotary knob fixed on channel 1 (so I can still switch channels, because the Learn function uses a fixed midi channel) to select the current song. (see Learn function on the Live Configs panel) This is an absolute rotary, the number you dial is the Live Configs you select. (0-127)

    I've set the switch delay to 1000ms. Switching goes smoothly. Reaper is a bit slow to build up the vst GUI's, but it's no problem since the sound comes first and has no glitches.

    Preload selection of the presets: Alternatively you can choose to preload a preset with the rotary and push an other controller button to confirm it to load. Select the Swap/load Life Config command from the keymaps panel (NOT via Learn, Apply Life Config X)

    From the actions panel:
    • assign a button: SWS Live config 01 - Apply preloaded config (swap preload/current) (choose absolute en soft takeover!)
    • assign a rotary: SWS Live config 01 - Preload next config

    Preload on the rotary and confirm load on the button:




I still need to find a way to change the tempo BPM settings for every song, since tempo is defined for the whole file, you cannot change it with the SWS snapshots. Maybe there are some actions that can do it?

If you have different LC setups, please add you screenshots here. It would be very interesting to see users their live setups and best practices. If somebody is interested, I'm willing to share my project file here also. It would be great of other share their files also. As a starting point of course.

Let me know if it works for you.


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The Live Configs Recommended settings:
6) Important recommendations
  • REAPER > Preferences > Audio > Close audio device *…+: all disabled
    → We want to use the audio engine whatever happens
  • REAPER > Preferences > Audio > Buffering > Allow live FX multi processing: enabled + set the proper number of CPUs
  • REAPER > Preferences > Audio > Playback > Run FX when stopped: enabled
  • REAPER > Preferences > Audio > Track mute fade: set the 100 ms there
    → The tool obeys this preference when it activates configs (smooth switching)
  • REAPER > Preferences > Audio > Do not process muted tracks: enabled
    → CPU savings when the Live Configs’ option “mute all but active track” is enabled
  • REAPER > General > Maximum undo memory use: 0 (i.e. undo disabled)
  • REAPER > Main menu > Extensions > SWS Options: disable everything there
  • Audio/MIDI plugins: if you face some issues, contact the author for a bug fix. no fix => quarantine (I personally do not advice bridging buggy plugins: some features of the Live Configs like preset switching will not be supported).
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UPDATES LOG:
  • KX midi filter has a bug with the sustain pedal keeping on when once pressed, looking for a better solution
  • Looking for a way to change the tempo without running reaper (or a macro to 1. select snapshot 2. play/stop region )
  • I've found a way to not directly or delayed switch the program, with LC you can choose to preselect it and when pushing an other controller button confirm it to load.

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Old 04-29-2014, 03:35 AM   #2
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It's incredible! But can you make a video with switching between the configs?
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It's incredible! But can you make a video with switching between the configs?
If I know what software to use for it, yes :]
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If I know what software to use for it, yes :]
For example, http://www.cockos.com/licecap/ or http://sourceforge.net/projects/cams...urce=directory
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Ok, let me try Camstudio tonight :-)
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Old 04-29-2014, 07:06 AM   #6
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the beauty of Reaper.
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Old 04-29-2014, 01:55 PM   #7
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Vitalker, I made the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5skC...ature=youtu.be
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I still need to find a way to change the tempo BPM settings for every song, since tempo is defined for the whole file, you cannot change it with the SWS snapshots. Maybe there are some actions that can do it?

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Not quite sure if it works but perhaps you could use tempomarkers and "jump around" via some marker actions?

http://wiki.cockos.com/wiki/index.ph...ation_with_SWS

and

http://wiki.cockos.com/wiki/index.ph...pping_with_SWS


Btw nice and detailed write up. Thx for this. Very inspiring.

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Wow wow wow, godly! Really interesting, but could you play on the disco with reaper?
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I think you can only change bpm during playback (no direct actions). I also need playback to send bank change messages so I just have reaper running during live use and navigate between items and/or regions to change songs, which loads my notes (s&m), changes the bpm, and even loads the appropriate keyboard patch onto my microkorg. pretty snazzy. Just gotta remember to mute my backing tracks.
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Just wanna add that I really appreciate your work. Obviously you have spend lots of time in configuring stuff and setting up the needed actions. I am in a "similar" position right now.

After years of regular use of DAWs as my production playground (mostly default layout mixed up with customized stuff but nothing gamechanging) I am swlowly changing my complete GUI and Reaper behaviour. I have unbound all mousemodifiers and shortcuts and starting from scratch right now. Eg I think I finally found some nice window behaviour I can live with in Reaper. It is still in very early development but feels somehow pretty tight even at this early stage.

I am very impressed with your detailed setup. This one helps me a lot in trying out some new stuff I have not even thought off. I like how you mixed up various Actions, how you arranged your stuff and how everything behaves.

Kudos for sharing it with us. If I find the time I will do something similar but I am pretty short on time due various other projects and life.

Will definitely subscribe to this thread.

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Old 05-06-2014, 01:32 AM   #12
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Thx so much my friends for all the loving words !
I've put some work in it indeed, I hope it works out and I can use it for some years. Reprogramming all the stuff takes so much time and when it's useless a bit frustrating...

I'm still trying to find out these things:
- how to run different actions in 1 action in SWS LC (Live Configs)
- the tempo thingy,... so there's no other way than running
- can I start running reaper between some markers to automaticly start stop a song with actions?

This all would be handy, so when I switch to a setup via LC and press play, it changes the tempo, runs some intro or mp3 playback...

All input is welcome Please share the knowledge, I'd love to get reaper running on stage.
I switched back last concert to Intone, which is ok, but hangs after a while (think some plugin issues). And I kinda miss the fast way that the vst gui's are loaded. Is there a way to get this fixed in Reaper? That would solve allot. Or do I need to ask for a feature request?
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Btw, I've found a way to not directly or delayed switch the program, with LC you can choose to preselect it and when pushing an other controller button confirm it to load.

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I think you can only change bpm during playback (no direct actions). I also need playback to send bank change messages so I just have reaper running during live use and navigate between items and/or regions to change songs, which loads my notes (s&m), changes the bpm, and even loads the appropriate keyboard patch onto my microkorg. pretty snazzy. Just gotta remember to mute my backing tracks.
I'm not sure PooFox (is that correct,haha)...
Are you using different files for every song, or 1 file with all the programs (songs),...? And do you work with regions or so to jump to?
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Godly,
thank you for your detailed post and video!
I'm just now experimenting with Reaper in live gigs and your suggestions are very welcome!

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Godly,
thank you for your detailed post and video!
I'm just now experimenting with Reaper in live gigs and your suggestions are very welcome!

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Let us know what works or doesn't for you.
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I'm not sure PooFox (is that correct,haha)...
Are you using different files for every song, or 1 file with all the programs (songs),...? And do you work with regions or so to jump to?
yes different files per song, but one long one with regions could work too. the items are actually the recordings, all on one track which i practice to and then mute for live use. I have another track with only program/bank items, but i plan to consolidate using free item positioning on a single track.

i was using sws region manager to choose and loop regions, but had to set up macros to get certain other behaviors. i prefer selecting items directly so i can have my item notes update on on item selection change.

so now i just switch between items with bpm markers at the starts. the macros turn on repeat and set the loop to the item to prevent next songs loading too soon if we played slowly.

note that if you want to switch items on a track that's not selected you need the sws "across tracks" item select actions.

i also use a midi controller and cycle actions (to select tracks directly by name via console commands) to arm/unarm tracks whenever i need to switch fx chains (each chain on it's own track, all tracks using the same input).

switching presets live scares me. plugins can crash then, but selecting and arming tracks is very safe. plus there's usually a bit of delay during the switch and effect trails get cut off. so i arm and unarm tracks with different chains instead of muting them or switching fx presets in order to preserve delay and reverb tails when switching.

btw i think we might need an FR for switching banks and bpm outside of playback. might exist already tho...
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Hm, one long with regions,... doesn't that mean you have to 'run' the song?
I'm not sure that's possible with SNS-LC ?
Also, Can you have a group of actions, macros, to start stop songs or play regions?
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Bookmarked and thank you.
Currently have an excellent real time set up using Bidule, but automations are definitely needed as we are quite raw.
Hopefully these vids will help out as I read about Live configs, but it seemed too complicated and live, that becomes a nightmare sometimes.

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Bookmarked and thank you.
Currently have an excellent real time set up using Bidule, but automations are definitely needed as we are quite raw.
Hopefully these vids will help out as I read about Live configs, but it seemed too complicated and live, that becomes a nightmare sometimes.

Thanks Again
Bidule looks intresting, but to complicated in a big setup?
http://anonemusic.com/sites/default/...ule/bidule.jpg

I will try the LC tonight on the rehearsal.
Only complaint I have is that the interfaces load so slow, sound goes quicker...
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I meant Live Configs being too complicated, that's why I appreciate your videos, as I might start using Reaper as a host again.

Bidule is a walk in the park.
You can import MIDI files and do what most DAWs do as it is basically a live performance DAW that uses very little resources to host VSTi's.

Right now I use Silentway Suite, Kontakt and PTeq 5.
Everything else is racked up analog synths, and the XITE-1 DSP rack for effects. modular synthesis and mixing.

Reaper can host the VST version of SWS, Bidule and Kontakt with great reliability, and I have used it live before.

Just recently though I went to more of a live raw improv group, where realtime parameter modulations is more important than automated static arrangements.

But all good things come to an end, and I know eventually I will need to use Reaper again.
Cubase is a dog live, as is Logic, especially if you are using all MIDI and not pre recorded music.

If I had to use pre recorded audio I would much rather get some life sized cut outs of the band, set them behind the instruments and sit at the bar drinking and flirting with the waittail cocktresses.

Thnaks again for the vids, and let us know how LC works out for you.
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First rehearsel worked ok yesterday, if not for the KX Midi Filter plugin, it has a bug I guess. When I kick my sustain pedal, it keeps sustaining.
First I thought it was the pedal that was broken, but after switching with an other one, I found out that the KX plugin was the cause. I checked the midi IO on the filter, and that works ok. Disabling it solved the prob.

Pitty, because I really like that KX Midi filter, since it's very complete.
You can set the midi split note range, velocity range, sustain (on or of) and the program change on/off. (Very handy if you switch channels my controller sends the PC also allong, so I had to filter that out). And has a midi IO window.
I contacted the programmer of it, hope to have some response soon.

I guess will have to add 2 midi filters plugins, probably JS. That midi note filter extended (if it had PC on board, I would be helped with it alone) and an other one for the PC.

Any suggestions on good split and filtering plugins?

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First rehearsel worked ok yesterday, if not for the KX Midi Filter plugin, it has a bug I guess. When I kick my sustain pedal, it keeps sustaining.
First I thought it was the pedal that was broken, but after switching with an other one, I found out that the KX plugin was the cause. I checked the midi IO on the filter, and that works ok. Disabling it solved the prob.

Pitty, because I really like that KX Midi filter, since it's very complete.
You can set the midi split note range, velocity range, sustain (on or of) and the program change on/off. (Very handy if you switch channels my controller sends the PC also allong, so I had to filter that out). And has a midi IO window.
I contacted the programmer of it, hope to have some response soon.

I guess will have to add 2 midi filters plugins, probably JS. That midi note filter extended (if it had PC on board, I would be helped with it alone) and an other one for the PC.

Any suggestions on good split and filtering plugins?
Insert Piz Here has one of the most complete MIDI bundles out there (plus some more stuff that´s maybe not contained). But can´t recommend anything specific because it´s a lot and I am trying to find stuff that works for me too.

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Yep looked at Piz, but nothing ReaFx can't do, right?
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Anybody knows what Js this is?
I can't find it?
https://stash.reaper.fm/v/3654/Filter...c%20Filter.png
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Hm, one long with regions,... doesn't that mean you have to 'run' the song?
I'm not sure that's possible with SNS-LC ?
Also, Can you have a group of actions, macros, to start stop songs or play regions?
I wouldn't do it that way but you could. yes. you can select and play regions directly and you can have reaper stop at the end of a loop. I haven't needed LC thus far... we do still need a way to send midi data without running the song tho... also don't forget about smart action markers.

I use the ix midi filter that comes with reaper. its talked about in the manual. not sure the exact name now.
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I wouldn't do it that way but you could. yes. you can select and play regions directly and you can have reaper stop at the end of a loop. I haven't needed LC thus far... we do still need a way to send midi data without running the song tho... also don't forget about smart action markers.

I use the ix midi filter that comes with reaper. its talked about in the manual. not sure the exact name now.
Thx, indeed yes that would be handy.
So how do you run several SWS commands in a macro?
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I've found out you can create actions in actions, so that should be possible.
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First rehearsel yesterday. Works fine. Only thing is the loading time for the VSTs is to long. As said, the sound is first, so no problem. But still you can get confused because of the slow loading of the GUIs.

Is there a way in Reaper to have the GUIs in memory loaded?
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Is there a way in Reaper to have the GUIs in memory loaded?
don't think so, but you can load everything up ahead of time, even tab multiple projects.

but i had a show with reaper last week and the problem i ran into was the all the MIDI gear lost connection after being on stage a few hours and i had to go through a long full reboot and make everyone wait.

not sure why that happened as i don't allow usb to power off or anything like that. reaper had a bunch of question marks in place of the normal MIDI devices.

was weird cos reaper decided to rescan all the vst's, so very long reboot. i was freaking out a bit...
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Thx, indeed yes that would be handy.
So how do you run several SWS commands in a macro?
well i've been moving completely over to SWS cycle actions instead of reaper's custom actions. way more control, but still not quite enough. so honestly, i'll probably move on from there to scripts pretty soon...

you know how to do custom actions right? they're made in the action dialog and execute in order (top to bottom). sws cycle actions allow for creating more complex macros like toggles where there are none, multi-step actions or conditional actions (if, then, else, etc). also supports using console commands. very good stuff.

stopping at the end of the loop is a preference under the "playback" tab.
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Yes, I've seen that option to add multiple actions in a row.
Are the SWS actions in the same way ?

Strange behaviour from the midi. So you clearly had a crash.
I know those horror moments on stage
Last year I used Intone Keys, I like that program, simple and effective, but it crashes after a half a concert. Pitty is that the settings and the project file which is in XML, is saved when closing the program. So every time it crashed that file was damaged. No fun on stage
Oh, there was also a problem, when disconnecting a USB port the laptop rebooted. Fun Fun
Those problems are strangely solved (W8.1 update?)

That's where I learned to keep multiple versions of your files
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yea, the multiple files lesson is a painful one everyone usually needs to truly understand the importance...usually only takes the one time though.

sws actions are just like regular ones. do not fear the force...

anyways, I blame the laptop. gonna try a win8 tablet soon.

honestly I kinda hate relying on computers live. never gone smoothly. and its kinda distracting. last show I stared at the screen in a trance half the time.
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yea, the multiple files lesson is a painful one everyone usually needs to truly understand the importance...usually only takes the one time though.

sws actions are just like regular ones. do not fear the force...

anyways, I blame the laptop. gonna try a win8 tablet soon.

honestly I kinda hate relying on computers live. never gone smoothly. and its kinda distracting. last show I stared at the screen in a trance half the time.
Maybe we should try Mac, I don't hear many complaints from the Mac guys. Only thing that makes me doubt is that windows has more vsts available. The AU format is less supported.
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Thank you for your tutorial godly. This has helped me enormously in my quest to easily switch VST sound patches via my MIDI controller in live performances.

New forum member, new to Reaper, new to playing live w/ MIDI controller (M-Audio Oxygen 61) thru laptop/VSTs. Learning curve pretty steep for me. New terminologies, new concepts, etc. Overall I have made great progress just getting to the point of playing my keys reliably thru the house mains! But am still stumped at certain aspects.

Currently have a few confounding issues I am anxious to clear up in this process:

1. I was hoping to use the row of buttons below the sliders (labeled c18-c25) to switch sound patches, much like on more traditional electronic keyboards. i.e., be able to press a button for my piano VST, and press another in the middle of a song to switch to my synth lead VST, etc. Some VSTs evidently have these buttons already pre-programmed to control settings in the VST. In the "Actions" window I was able to map the buttons to recall my various snapshots, but in certain VSTs the buttons revert to controlling settings within the VST instead of my desired reult of recalling another snapshot. Is there a way to override these? Temporarily I am using the six transport buttons to switch my sounds but was hoping to be able to program more than six presets.

2. The VST image displays onscreen when switching to that VST (recalling that snapshot) but does not remove itself when switching to another snapshot. They end up piling up on the screen, one on top of the other, requiring me to manually shuffle thrue these with the mouse to display the current one. Is there a way to have the VST display remove itself from the screen when switching to another?

3. Sometimes, when switching sounds (recalling another snapshot) an unrequested note will play. I have to hit the panic button to turn it off. Still trying to find out if there is a pattern to this that might point to a possible cause.

I am using Reaper v4.62 with my M-Audio Oxygen 61 controller to control 10-12 VSTs in live performance situations. Not using it for recording, composing, sequencing, etc. (Yet!)
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Hm, I updated to 4.71 and everything is mixed, all GUI windows open and the SWS select bij CC isn't working anymore...
GRRRRR
And I can't revert to 4.62 (tried replacing the ini and config files)
I have a concert on monday...
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The (pre)select Live config assign isn't working as it was before !!!
Apply Life config loads the number of the assigned button so that is 0 - 127 :-/ and it doesn't load the preloaded Life config.

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did you try reinstalling sws? that sux man.

i kinda remember having to reassign some shortcuts after that update. i think it changed some of the action id's or something.
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did you try reinstalling sws? that sux man.

i kinda remember having to reassign some shortcuts after that update. i think it changed some of the action id's or something.
Yes I just reinstalled.
I assigned a rotary 0-127 to preload.
And a button for Apply (which outputs 0-127)

That's very handy, because life, you can preselect the next song with the rotary and then hit the button to apply.

But now the apply sends the CC value also, so it selects number 0 or 127.
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I checked all the action keymaps for life config,
I think this setting has changed with 4.71 (or the key actions relative or absolute have changed?)

Where can I add a bug report?
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