Old 10-14-2010, 06:14 AM   #1
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Hi guys,

I have recently been dabbling in the realm of electronic music production, and I came past something that sounds really awesome but I realized I had no idea how to reproduce it.
An example of this is this song, at about 1.40.

That really awesome drop, everytime when the kick comes in it seems like the rest is a lot more silent. Any tips on achieving such an effect?

Also, it's probably due to practice but how do these guys get their tracks to sound so massive!?

Cheers!
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Old 10-14-2010, 06:28 AM   #2
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Hi guys,

I have recently been dabbling in the realm of electronic music production, and I came past something that sounds really awesome but I realized I had no idea how to reproduce it.
An example of this is this song, at about 1.40.

That really awesome drop, everytime when the kick comes in it seems like the rest is a lot more silent. Any tips on achieving such an effect?

Also, it's probably due to practice but how do these guys get their tracks to sound so massive!?

Cheers!
In this (ugly) case it just seems to be over-crompression of the stereo sum.

In general you would do this with a compressor and sidechain input (ducking) and using kick or bass.
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Old 10-14-2010, 06:35 AM   #3
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Route the kick track (track A from now on) to the track (track B)
you wish to reduce in volume (eg. bass, synth etc.) to channel 3,
or 3&4 (one is enough). Do this by dragging the send button from
A to B, or click I/O of track A and create a send to track B, or open
I/O of track B and create a receive from track A, than make sure
the channel 1/2 goes to 3/4 or just 3.

[img]http://img197.**************/img197/4228/pic1oj.jpg[/img]

Now put a ReaComp to the track B, and set it's input to Aux L
(which corresponds to channel 3), or Aux L+R if you use both
channels 3+4 (this is the default routing for ReaComp plug-in,
but if you set your track to more channels, inputs can be set
to any channel in Plug-in Pin Connector window).

The plug-in will now reduce the volume of track B, when track
A exceeds the set treshold on the compressor. These are the
basic settings I start with for the plug-in:

[img]http://img687.**************/img687/11/pic2jf.jpg[/img]

Threshold needs to be below the peak of the green signal indicator
that will jump when kick is received. Attack an Release times mean
how fast the compressor will reduce and reset the gain after the
signal exceeds/drops above/below threshold. Ratio means how
much reduction will occur, depending also on amplitude of the signal
exceeding the threshold. I usually set the highpass filter to around
90 Hz, so that the lower frequencies do not trigger the compressor,
but rather the kick's transient, which means the detection signal
will be shorter, giving me more control over attack/release times,
but it will be lower in amplitude, so you need to set threshold lower
accordingly.

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How to achieve this massive sound? Compress the shit out of the
master track, use wide stereo image synths and take care about
properly defining spectrum and position (depth) of each sound so
they don't overlap too much and make the sound muddy.

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Old 10-14-2010, 07:56 AM   #4
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Thanks for the detailed answer Eric! Helped a great deal, thank you very much
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