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Old 09-20-2020, 01:34 AM   #1361
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Yes I also found it weird no one had asked yet 😂
Yeah, as far as I know it's the same, so let's hope it doesn't require too much work. Do you ever get controllers sponsored by companies or do you have to buy em all yourself?
Meanwhile, I am supported quite good.
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Old 09-20-2020, 11:48 AM   #1362
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DrivenByMoss 4 Reaper 10.7.0 is online!

Get it from http://mossgrabers.de
  • Requires Reaper 6.12+
  • NI Kontrol Mk 1
    • New: Added settings for knob speed
  • NI Kontrol Mk 2
    • New: Knob speed settings are now from -100 to 100
  • Launchpad
    • Fixed: Pro Mk3: The last selected play / sequencer mode was not restored
    • Fixed: Volume, Pan and Sends view was canceled when track selection changed.
    • Fixed: LED lighting of up/down buttons in scene and mix mode was wrong
  • MCU
    • New: Added settings for knob speed
  • NI Maschine Mk3
    • New: Added settings for knob speed
  • OSC
    • Fixed: /vkb_midi/note/{0-127}/color did not send scale colors, only played notes
    • Fixed: Page size of user parameters was not changed (was always 8)
  • Push 2
    • Fixed: Shutdown of the display process did not always exit cleanly

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Old 09-20-2020, 12:23 PM   #1363
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Hi Moss,

REAPER (6.13 - Win 10 64 bit) not loading when i apply this new update:-

# A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
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# EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x0000000000000000, pid=16036, tid=8300
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# JRE version: (15.0+36) (build )
# Java VM: OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (15+36, mixed mode, tiered, compressed oops, g1 gc, windows-amd64)
# Problematic frame:
# C 0x0000000000000000
#

Each time i try and run REAPER it generates a new (hs_err_pidxxxxx.log) PID failure log file.
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Old 09-21-2020, 12:36 AM   #1364
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Hi Moss,

REAPER (6.13 - Win 10 64 bit) not loading when i apply this new update:-

# A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
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# EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x0000000000000000, pid=16036, tid=8300
#
# JRE version: (15.0+36) (build )
# Java VM: OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (15+36, mixed mode, tiered, compressed oops, g1 gc, windows-amd64)
# Problematic frame:
# C 0x0000000000000000
#

Each time i try and run REAPER it generates a new (hs_err_pidxxxxx.log) PID failure log file.
Could you please check that you deleted all old files before copying over the new ones?
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Old 09-21-2020, 05:43 AM   #1365
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Could you please check that you deleted all old files before copying over the new ones?
Yes, deleted everything. Also tried re-downloading the files - but same thing.

If i remove the new files, REAPER starts fine.

Be interesting to hear if any other Win 10 users are running it ok?
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Old 09-21-2020, 07:44 AM   #1366
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this question is only tangentially related to moss's awesome software -

does anyone here know how to prevent Ableton from brutishly assuming control of devices upon startup? i want to use a Launchpad pro with REAPER, not Ableton - yet any time i load Ableton, it seizes control of the LPP
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Old 09-21-2020, 12:50 PM   #1367
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Thanks for the update, MOSS!

By the way, not completely REAPER related, but have you ever considered adding support for the Presonus ATOM? It seems like there are already some efforts in this direction for REAPER (https://github.com/kmitch95120/Reaper-ATOM-Integration and https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=224472), while Bitwig integration could mirror how it already works with Ableton Live.
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Old 09-21-2020, 07:16 PM   #1368
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Thanks a lot Moss. This is a big upgrade to what I had before.

I only have one problem:
it seems that if the selected track is out of my "banked" tracks, I get the "Please select a track..." warning in the mixer. How can I get rid of the message? and how can I prevent it?
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Old 09-21-2020, 07:42 PM   #1369
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Hi Moss,

REAPER (6.13 - Win 10 64 bit) not loading when i apply this new update:-

# A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#
# EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x0000000000000000, pid=16036, tid=8300
#
# JRE version: (15.0+36) (build )
# Java VM: OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (15+36, mixed mode, tiered, compressed oops, g1 gc, windows-amd64)
# Problematic frame:
# C 0x0000000000000000
#

Each time i try and run REAPER it generates a new (hs_err_pidxxxxx.log) PID failure log file.
I get the same message.
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Old 09-22-2020, 02:58 AM   #1370
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Yes, deleted everything. Also tried re-downloading the files - but same thing.

If i remove the new files, REAPER starts fine.

Be interesting to hear if any other Win 10 users are running it ok?
I guess this is a bug in the new JDK 15. I can only suggest to stick with the previous version 10.6.4 for the time being. I added the link again to the download page.

But could you post the hs_err_pidxxxxx.log file?
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Old 09-22-2020, 03:00 AM   #1371
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Thanks for the update, MOSS!

By the way, not completely REAPER related, but have you ever considered adding support for the Presonus ATOM? It seems like there are already some efforts in this direction for REAPER (https://github.com/kmitch95120/Reaper-ATOM-Integration and https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=224472), while Bitwig integration could mirror how it already works with Ableton Live.
I have no plans to support this controller.
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Old 09-22-2020, 03:06 AM   #1372
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this question is only tangentially related to moss's awesome software -

does anyone here know how to prevent Ableton from brutishly assuming control of devices upon startup? i want to use a Launchpad pro with REAPER, not Ableton - yet any time i load Ableton, it seizes control of the LPP
That's how Ableton works.
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Old 09-22-2020, 03:14 AM   #1373
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Thanks a lot Moss. This is a big upgrade to what I had before.

I only have one problem:
it seems that if the selected track is out of my "banked" tracks, I get the "Please select a track..." warning in the mixer. How can I get rid of the message? and how can I prevent it?
Hmm, the selection in Reaper should always reflect to the controller.
Could you please explain in more detail what you are doing?
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Old 09-22-2020, 04:04 AM   #1374
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I guess this is a bug in the new JDK 15. I can only suggest to stick with the previous version 10.6.4 for the time being. I added the link again to the download page.
But could you post the hs_err_pidxxxxx.log file?
Many thanks for returning the previous version for download, i've sent you the .log file via pm.
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Old 09-25-2020, 01:43 AM   #1375
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Hello Folks,

i tried to use my touch monitor as MCU (+1 extender in the future) with
open stage controls new mcu template.


https://github.com/jean-emmanuel/open-stage-control-mcu

https://openstagecontrol.discourse.g...-questions/682

Now i have the problem with some kind of midi feedback loop in reaper.
(at worst with the implemented control surface mode of mcu).


For example when hitting play on the touch monitor(note=94), a stop command is sent immediatly back(note=93).
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(DEBUG, MIDI) out: NOTE_ON: channel=1, note=94, velocity=127 To: midi: osc_mcu
(DEBUG, MIDI) in: NOTE_ON: channel=1, note=94, velocity=127 From: midi: osc_mcu
(DEBUG, OSC) In: { address: '/play', args: 1 } From: midi: osc_mcu
(DEBUG, MIDI) in: NOTE_ON: channel=1, note=93, velocity=0 From: midi: osc_mcu
(DEBUG, OSC) In: { address: '/stop', args: 0 } From: midi: osc_mcu
(DEBUG, MIDI) in: NOTE_ON: channel=1, note=94, velocity=127 From: midi: osc_mcu
(DEBUG, OSC) In: { address: '/play', args: 1 } From: midi: osc_mcu
(DEBUG, MIDI) in: NOTE_ON: channel=1, note=93, velocity=127 From: midi: osc_mcu
(DEBUG, OSC) In: { address: '/stop', args: 1 } From: midi: osc_mcu
(DEBUG, MIDI) in: NOTE_ON: channel=1, note=94, velocity=0 From: midi: osc_mcu
(DEBUG, OSC) In: { address: '/play', args: 0 } From: midi: osc_mcu
(DEBUG, MIDI) out: NOTE_OFF: channel=1, note=94 To: midi: osc_mcu
(DEBUG, MIDI) in: NOTE_OFF: channel=1, note=94 From: midi: osc_mcu
(DEBUG, OSC) In: { address: '/play', args: 0 } From: midi: osc_mcu
------------------------

This template seems to work with sequia and ardour, so i guess it must be something reaper specific.
(Could it be the case that reaper is reacting on the OSC Messages???)


what i did:
plain reaper install(6.14)
tried out implemented mcu, klinke mcu, moss mcu (more or less problems with all)
midi connection used loopmidi
all midi ports in reaper are disabled

Please help!
thanks

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Old 09-25-2020, 05:14 AM   #1376
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Hello Folks,

i tried to use my touch monitor as MCU (+1 extender in the future) with
open stage controls new mcu template.


https://github.com/jean-emmanuel/open-stage-control-mcu

https://openstagecontrol.discourse.g...-questions/682

Now i have the problem with some kind of midi feedback loop in reaper.
(at worst with the implemented control surface mode of mcu).


For example when hitting play on the touch monitor(note=94), a stop command is sent immediatly back(note=93).
-----------------------------
(DEBUG, MIDI) out: NOTE_ON: channel=1, note=94, velocity=127 To: midi: osc_mcu
(DEBUG, MIDI) in: NOTE_ON: channel=1, note=94, velocity=127 From: midi: osc_mcu
(DEBUG, OSC) In: { address: '/play', args: 1 } From: midi: osc_mcu
(DEBUG, MIDI) in: NOTE_ON: channel=1, note=93, velocity=0 From: midi: osc_mcu
(DEBUG, OSC) In: { address: '/stop', args: 0 } From: midi: osc_mcu
(DEBUG, MIDI) in: NOTE_ON: channel=1, note=94, velocity=127 From: midi: osc_mcu
(DEBUG, OSC) In: { address: '/play', args: 1 } From: midi: osc_mcu
(DEBUG, MIDI) in: NOTE_ON: channel=1, note=93, velocity=127 From: midi: osc_mcu
(DEBUG, OSC) In: { address: '/stop', args: 1 } From: midi: osc_mcu
(DEBUG, MIDI) in: NOTE_ON: channel=1, note=94, velocity=0 From: midi: osc_mcu
(DEBUG, OSC) In: { address: '/play', args: 0 } From: midi: osc_mcu
(DEBUG, MIDI) out: NOTE_OFF: channel=1, note=94 To: midi: osc_mcu
(DEBUG, MIDI) in: NOTE_OFF: channel=1, note=94 From: midi: osc_mcu
(DEBUG, OSC) In: { address: '/play', args: 0 } From: midi: osc_mcu
------------------------

This template seems to work with sequia and ardour, so i guess it must be something reaper specific.
(Could it be the case that reaper is reacting on the OSC Messages???)


what i did:
plain reaper install(6.14)
tried out implemented mcu, klinke mcu, moss mcu (more or less problems with all)
midi connection used loopmidi
all midi ports in reaper are disabled

Please help!
thanks
It looks like you have enabled OSC as well in Reaper (or in DrivenByMoss?).
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Old 09-25-2020, 06:19 AM   #1377
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no, there is no OSC activated in Reaper.

Messages like these

(DEBUG, OSC) In: { address: '/play', args: 1 } From: midi: osc_mcu

update buttons,etc.(aka. widgets in OSC : update the control surface by incoming midi messages).

Is there a way to change the channel in the plugin? Because these Messages should be avoided:


notes on channel 1
control changes on channel 1
channel pressure on channel 1
pitchbend on channels 1-9"


thanks..(i am on version 10.6.4)
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Old 09-25-2020, 12:29 PM   #1378
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no, there is no OSC activated in Reaper.

Messages like these

(DEBUG, OSC) In: { address: '/play', args: 1 } From: midi: osc_mcu

update buttons,etc.(aka. widgets in OSC : update the control surface by incoming midi messages).

Is there a way to change the channel in the plugin? Because these Messages should be avoided:


notes on channel 1
control changes on channel 1
channel pressure on channel 1
pitchbend on channels 1-9"


thanks..(i am on version 10.6.4)
I never used Open Stage Control with MIDI. Therefore, I cannot really give you any hints.

What you could check out instead is to use the OSC implementation of DrivenByMoss, which is more powerful than MCU (e.g. track colors). The DrivenByMoss download also includes a template for Open Stage Control, which gives you a mixer, device editor and more.
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Old 09-26-2020, 04:46 AM   #1379
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Thanks, your template is really nice!
Well Done!
I now have the problem that i can't use 16 tracks at once (in the mixer view in the osc4bitwig template).

Under "strip_scroll_panel" i clone the tracks (changing ID and PROPS accordingly) to have 16 tracks at once, then i changed the configuration in "open sound control OSC" in Reaper

But when switching banks with /track/bank/page/+ or - just the first 8 tracks are changed/updated.

Any hint on that?

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Old 09-27-2020, 01:39 AM   #1380
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Thanks, your template is really nice!
Well Done!
I now have the problem that i can't use 16 tracks at once (in the mixer view in the osc4bitwig template).

Under "strip_scroll_panel" i clone the tracks (changing ID and PROPS accordingly) to have 16 tracks at once, then i changed the configuration in "open sound control OSC" in Reaper

But when switching banks with /track/bank/page/+ or - just the first 8 tracks are changed/updated.

Any hint on that?
To understand that correctly: at first all 16 tracks are correct but when you switch to the next page only the 1st 8 tracks are working and control 17-24?
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Old 09-27-2020, 02:58 AM   #1381
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To understand that correctly: at first all 16 tracks are correct but when you switch to the next page only the 1st 8 tracks are working and control 17-24?
When i start the pc i need to click on configuration (in your plugin)then the surface shows track 17 onward.
When i click on the surface button to switch to the bank before(/track/bank/page/-), just channels 9 - 16 are shown (17 onward are empty ).
The same thing is happening if i switch to the next bank.
The controls are working correctly on the corresponding tracks(if you edit channel 17 on the surface, in reaper channel 17 changes like expected).
(After clicking once on configuration at the pc start, it is not needed for further reaper or surface starts)...
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Old 09-27-2020, 11:17 AM   #1382
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What about adding Reason mode, e.g. built into the hardware Bitstream 3X as well? Not a must, only if you want. Just another idea.
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What about adding Reason mode, e.g. built into the hardware Bitstream 3X as well? Not a must, only if you want. Just another idea.
Sorry, don't know wjar you mean (reaper noob)..
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Old 09-27-2020, 12:48 PM   #1384
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DrivenByMoss 4 Reaper 10.7.1 is out!

Get it from http://mossgrabers.de
  • Requires Reaper 6.12+
  • APC40 / APC40 mk2
    • New: APC40 mk2: Select user mode pages now with User+Select 1-8. Cursor keys change tracks like in pan and send mode.
    • Fixed: Pressing notes in drum sequencer for editing did always select notes in the first sequencer row.
  • Launchpad Pro Mk3
    • Fixed: (Regression in 10.7) Mode selection did not always work
  • Push 2
    • New: The 4th/8th send name is now always displayed if the current tracks are not inside of a group. Furthermore, it is displayed if the 8th knob is touched.

Enjoy!
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Old 09-27-2020, 12:55 PM   #1385
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hi moss, just saw that you fixed the problem with the bank size in version 10.7.
I was forced to use 10.6.4, because of the known errors posted by others.
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Old 09-28-2020, 09:17 AM   #1386
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Hi Moss, is there a simple way around this issue (to use 16 channels / bank for OSC Template)?
The crash seems to be something like this...
(https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse...hmentOrder=asc)

thanks...
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Old 09-28-2020, 10:50 AM   #1387
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Both 10.7.0 and 10.7.1 crash my REAPER too on Win10
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Old 09-28-2020, 01:20 PM   #1388
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Both 10.7.0 and 10.7.1 crash my REAPER too on Win10
As I wrote above (and on the download page), please stick with 10.6.4 for the time being if that happens on your computer.
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Old 09-29-2020, 12:38 AM   #1389
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As I wrote above (and on the download page), please stick with 10.6.4 for the time being if that happens on your computer.
I just asked if this problem exists in W10. Im using 10.6.4 and happy with it. Thank You!
But going to check all new releases, for sure it will be working one day!
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Old 09-29-2020, 04:45 AM   #1390
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I just asked if this problem exists in W10. Im using 10.6.4 and happy with it. Thank You!
But going to check all new releases, for sure it will be working one day!
It is not a general issue on Windows 10 since on my machine it runs fine. I hope the next JDK 15 release will fix this...
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I just stumbled upon this plugin and wanted to try it out immediately with the Push 2. At first try Reaper crashed with 10.7.2, so I used 10.6.4 instead. I was able to get the Plugin to load and autodetect Push 2. I run into a couple of issues though. When I turn on Push before loading up Reaper the display lights up, but none of the other buttons do. Transport etc does not work.

Looking into the GUI of the plugin I get the errors "Midi not available. javax.sound.midi.MidiUnavailableException: Das Gerät wird bereits verwendet. Warten Sie, bis es freigegeben ist, und versuchen Sie es erneut." and the plugin tries to send some color palette stuff: "Ableton Push 2: Running. Resending color palette entry #0 request. Failed reading color palette entry #0. Gave up after 10 retries. Check selected MIDI in-/outputs.".
I only found infos regarding these issues with a user using Push 1, nothing for Push 2. The Midi ports seem to be correctly configured.

When I open up Reaper and THEN turn on Push the story is a little different though. Push is turned on but only the Push logo shows up on the display. When I open up the plugin configuration, disable and reenable Push in the device list, it seems to work. Most of the buttons are not illuminated but I can switch between note, session and all other modes and transport works. When in note mode, the pads light up accordingly and I can play without issues. Closing down reaper and opening it up again with Push turned on results in those color palette errors once again and nothing seems to be working.

Any guidance on what I'm missing here?

Thanks
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I just stumbled upon this plugin and wanted to try it out immediately with the Push 2. At first try Reaper crashed with 10.7.2, so I used 10.6.4 instead. I was able to get the Plugin to load and autodetect Push 2. I run into a couple of issues though. When I turn on Push before loading up Reaper the display lights up, but none of the other buttons do. Transport etc does not work.

Looking into the GUI of the plugin I get the errors "Midi not available. javax.sound.midi.MidiUnavailableException: Das Gerät wird bereits verwendet. Warten Sie, bis es freigegeben ist, und versuchen Sie es erneut." and the plugin tries to send some color palette stuff: "Ableton Push 2: Running. Resending color palette entry #0 request. Failed reading color palette entry #0. Gave up after 10 retries. Check selected MIDI in-/outputs.".
I only found infos regarding these issues with a user using Push 1, nothing for Push 2. The Midi ports seem to be correctly configured.

When I open up Reaper and THEN turn on Push the story is a little different though. Push is turned on but only the Push logo shows up on the display. When I open up the plugin configuration, disable and reenable Push in the device list, it seems to work. Most of the buttons are not illuminated but I can switch between note, session and all other modes and transport works. When in note mode, the pads light up accordingly and I can play without issues. Closing down reaper and opening it up again with Push turned on results in those color palette errors once again and nothing seems to be working.

Any guidance on what I'm missing here?

Thanks
I guess you did not disable the MIDI in-/outputs of Push in Reaper. See the detailed installation instructions in the manual which is included in the ZIP file.
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Old 10-03-2020, 02:57 PM   #1393
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I guess you did not disable the MIDI in-/outputs of Push in Reaper. See the detailed installation instructions in the manual which is included in the ZIP file.
Thanks this solved it! I was going through the Reaper and Push parts of the manual before but simply missed this info. Everything working smoothly now.
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Old 10-03-2020, 03:41 PM   #1394
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Can I get Peavey StudioMix to work with DrivenByMoss?


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Old 10-04-2020, 12:06 AM   #1395
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Can I get Peavey StudioMix to work with DrivenByMoss?


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Should be possible with the Generic Flexi.
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Old 10-04-2020, 05:22 AM   #1396
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I don't seem to have aftertouch working on my Push 2 in Reaper using DrivenByMoss. Works in Ableton. Any ideas? Thanks again!
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Old 10-04-2020, 08:17 AM   #1397
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I don't seem to have aftertouch working on my Push 2 in Reaper using DrivenByMoss. Works in Ableton. Any ideas? Thanks again!
Check the setting "Convert aftertouch to" in the Settings dialog for Push 2.
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Old 10-04-2020, 09:00 AM   #1398
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Check the setting "Convert aftertouch to" in the Settings dialog for Push 2.
Thank you Moss. I changed it to channel Aftertouch and got the response I wanted in my synth.
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Old 10-04-2020, 09:13 AM   #1399
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DrivenByMoss 4 Reaper 10.7.3 is online!

Get it from http://mossgrabers.de
  • Requires Reaper 6.12+
  • All devices
    • New: Windows 10: Updated to latest JDK15 nightly build, which should fix the startup crash on older Windows 10 installations.
    • New: Parameter mapped knobs/faders display their value in the simulator.
    • Fixed: Notification message display time was too short (since message was canceled straight away).
  • APC40
    • New: Display Send index and name as well as user pages when changing to these modes.
    • Fixed: Crash when switching to effect tracks.
    • Fixed: Mk2: Do not switch to next Send when Send button was used in combination with track selection (to select Send N).
    • Fixed: Mk2: Last send mode was not remembered when changed with track selection combination.
  • Launchpad
    • New: The behaviour of duplicating a clip has changed. After selecting the source clip, press any free clip on the grid. The source clip will be duplicated at the end of the clips' track.
  • Push
    • New: The behaviour of duplicating a clip has changed. After selecting the source clip, press any free clip on the grid. The source clip will be duplicated at the end of the clips' track.
    • Fixed: Select button is now blocked in Browse mode since it does not have any function in that mode and left the extension with a blank screen when accidently pressed.

Enjoy!
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Old 10-04-2020, 06:38 PM   #1400
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I have it installed now, but have a few questions?

1) How do I go about Setting up a template for my studio mix to look like the other templates you have, meaning the Configuration window reflects my StudioMix?
2) I do I create a screen of my StudioMix like the Debug device simulator?

I think by getting these setup, would help me in getting everything working quicker.

3) Any tips on starting with getting 1 Fader working first?


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