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Old 09-27-2015, 05:52 AM   #41
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haha yes, Shakespeare is my thing at times

I would like to hear your Shakespeare version of Reaper´s Manual haha

or even better a Shakespearean Reaper tutorial on YouTube hehe

and Take your time ! :-)
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Old 09-27-2015, 08:10 AM   #42
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Do you mean more plugins in one project or more plugin in plugins folder ? I do not think the amount of plugins in the folder would have any influence on performance ?! Most plugins I use are Reaper plugins anway (ReaComp, ReaEQ and Readelay and Rearecerbate and Reaverb and two more and some JS plugins and some third Party, too, but not too many, I still use quite a lot of Hardware instruments )
It is not really a problem yet, but I do not hope next updates will slow everything down again

old was kinda ironical (iron.= aged, an aged man must do things more slowly !), "mature" would be apt !
Erm.... more instances of plugins in newer projects. The only difference having a sh1tload of plugs makes to performance is when it comes to scanning them all in!

What I was trying to point you at was examining how an older project performs with R5 compared to your newest ones, which apparently are "sluggish".

EDIT: Just read the last few posts and it would seem that my somewhat terse explanation & question has been amplified by others. So now you know, hopefully.
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Old 09-27-2015, 08:33 AM   #43
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I've noticed perhaps a slight slowdown in start-up but that's it, nothing to complain about at all, otherwise it's snappy as ever. I don't find the default 5 theme "old" looking, and anyway it's there to be customized, which is Reaper's other great strength (besides stability and OS versatility).
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Old 09-27-2015, 09:24 AM   #44
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Seems the same to me, but they all speed up if they aren't scanning 1000 plugins on launch so I usually turn that off.

I've found Reaper's fast launching / relaunching really, really handy for testing plugins I write (need to quit and relaunch to test changes multiple times) but otherwise, I've never had any occasion to be annoyed from waiting 10-15 seconds for any app to launch that I'll be using for hours.
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Old 09-27-2015, 10:05 AM   #45
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Sorry, for being a little meticulous, but you write you "think" an "not much". Not much means "maybe a little" and thinking is not knowing, so?
Well without access to REAPER's code, it's quite difficult to know exactly what it is doing, right?
I know from observation that it scans the vst directory at startup, so yes I guess the more files you have there the more "time" it will take (in the < 1 ms scale, not much).

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Yes and I know that new plugins appear in "new" folder the first time you load a project after having installed a new plugin.
My point was that when reaper scans the vst folder, it doesn't load all the plugins every time (it is very noticable when REAPER does in a fresh installation).

This is why I think (because I haven't tried installing lots of plugins to check) the quantity of plugins you have doesn't noticably affect the usual startup time.

From my own experience, I blame Kontakt having to load lots of samples and a slow hard drive as being the culprits for the initial project load times you are complaining about.
Have you used "update sample pool" on your slow projects? And as I said before, defragmenting your disk or switching to SSDs would help a lot too.

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Old 09-28-2015, 02:07 AM   #46
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haha yes, Shakespeare is my thing at times

I would like to hear your Shakespeare version of Reaper´s Manual haha

or even better a Shakespearean Reaper tutorial on YouTube hehe

and Take your time ! :-)
Right. I'll get back to you on that in about five years.
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Old 09-28-2015, 02:24 AM   #47
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I don't have time or want to go through the changelog but it's more likely that the implementation of VST3 requires more checks or setup.

You should probably read up on Occam's Razor.
Occam's razor (also written as Ockham's razor and in Latin lex parsimoniae, which means 'law of parsimony') is a problem-solving principle devised by William of Ockham (c. 1287–1347), who was an English Franciscan friar and scholastic philosopher and theologian. The principle states that among competing hypotheses that predict equally well, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected. Other, more complicated solutions may ultimately prove to provide better predictions, but—in the absence of differences in predictive ability—the fewer assumptions that are made, the better.
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Old 09-28-2015, 10:40 AM   #48
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I noticed no difference at all. i5 desktop.
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1 second ???? hehe you are kidding

okay maybe an empty project without any tracks and plugins, maybe 5 seconds !
My Intel Core i5 2520M laptop (with SSD but a "slow" one), takes 2 seconds to load Reaper with empty project.
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