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01-28-2022, 06:06 AM
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Creating dub delay fx?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV3o622KqwQ
How do you do something like this on Reaper? This clip is in Ableton (with which I'm completely unfamiliar), I couldn't find anything pertaining to Reaper. I'm trying to create dub delay effects myself, but by automating the feedback on the delay itself which isn't easy on a midi controller with limited inputs.
He seems to be feeding a send with a delay back into itself so you can control that kind of feedback effect, but I cannot parse how this could be done in Reaper. Could someone help? I like these fx but messing around with automation and not a live mixing setup is a pain the ass.
I'm using cherry audio's stardust tape echo plug in, but I guess any similar delay fx would work.
Thanks
Last edited by WIshface; 01-28-2022 at 06:16 AM.
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01-28-2022, 09:07 AM
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Thanks
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01-28-2022, 06:46 PM
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@ashcat_lt;
I can't find the gmem send/receive plugs anywhere.
I tried the FX window (they are not installed), stash (I rarely have good luck searching stach), and ReaPack.
I'm stumped.
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01-29-2022, 12:37 AM
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Thank you!
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01-29-2022, 05:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ashcat_lt
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Regarding the first video, can you explain why three tracks are necesary? Not just loop the second track (with the delay) back into the main track?
It's probably obvious but I'm not seeint it
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01-29-2022, 06:56 AM
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The first track is the source. The other two tracks together make up the delay effect. He’s sending from the source to that delay effect. The delay itself MUST be 100% wet because un-delayed feedback is just feedback, so it kind of has to be a send effect.
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01-29-2022, 09:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ashcat_lt
The first track is the source. The other two tracks together make up the delay effect. He’s sending from the source to that delay effect. The delay itself MUST be 100% wet because un-delayed feedback is just feedback, so it kind of has to be a send effect.
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But you could just feed the delay track back into the source, right?
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01-29-2022, 11:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WIshface
But you could just feed the delay track back into the source, right?
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You need one track with the delay on it and another track for the feedback. Those two tracks are necessary for the feedback thing. Neither one can be the source. Since you've got feedback routing on, if you're careful(!!!), you certainly could send the delay back to the source track, but you've still got three tracks.
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Originally Posted by nofish
Also may want to check out this FX chain, same principle but done on a single track:
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Does that use the plugins that don't come with Reaper anymore?
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01-29-2022, 04:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ashcat_lt
Does that use the plugins that don't come with Reaper anymore?
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Uh yeah seems so, I just checked.
It uses JS called 'bufsave' which doesn't seem to be included with Reaper anymore (at least I think they were stock JS at some point? Don't remember exactly.).
I have it but not sure I'm allowed to redistribute.
edit:
License is GPL so I think it's ok. Attached.
Last edited by nofish; 01-29-2022 at 05:00 PM.
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01-30-2022, 03:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ashcat_lt
You need one track with the delay on it and another track for the feedback. Those two tracks are necessary for the feedback thing. Neither one can be the source. Since you've got feedback routing on, if you're careful(!!!), you certainly could send the delay back to the source track, but you've still got three tracks.
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Perhaps I'm missing something but I've used two tracks. Source track and the delay track fed back into the source. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding something, but I don't see why a third track is necessary
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