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Old 10-25-2019, 08:17 PM   #1
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Default AXE IO - High Latency, 261ms - is it my methods (SOLVED, it was my methods)?

Hardware:
AXE IO connected via USB to a USB port on my motherboard (ie, not an addon card)
I7-6700
16GB RAM
Win10 with latest updates

Connection:
1. Guitar cable (not TRS) from Input 1 to Output 1 (Input is line level, not the low-Z)
2. XLR mic from Input 2 to Output 1

Method 1:
Track 1: Click source
Track 2: Recording Input 1 (line in)
Track 3: Redo of Track 2 with my old audio card's software exited.
Track 4: Recording Input 2 (mic) (held on my head to emulate air gap between speakers and ears)
- These two were recorded in separate takes, not simultaneously

Zoomed all the way in and selected from the very start of the first audio on Track 2 or 3 to the very start of the first click source, set Transport to samples.

Results: 11741 samples for the mic, 12044 samples for the DI (and why is THAT backwards?) which is about a 1/4 second, or almost an 8th note at 120 bpm.

This is visible in the wave forms, too.

This user from August is getting a 10th of what I'm getting:
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/show...postcount=3413

Playing 1/4 notes with my guitar does line up with the recorded click. Just playing without recording is very responsive, no latency that I can detect.

Haven't run the tool RTL tool from Oblique Audio yet. Is a TRS cable required, or is a regular TS guitar cable fine?

Thoughts/suggestions/comments? Thanks!
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Old 10-26-2019, 02:20 AM   #2
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Playing 1/4 notes with my guitar does line up with the recorded click. Just playing without recording is very responsive, no latency that I can detect.
Which tells us that your test results and/or conclusions are clearly incorrect.
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Which tells us that your test results and/or conclusions are clearly incorrect.
OK, that's what I was thinking, but I am not sure why. Any ideas?
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Remove all FX from project (and monitoring FX) and try again with line out of interface to line in. Use an audio click on track 1.

Even when done correctly your results don't show latency as Reaper is already compensating for latency....any difference is just between reported (which you can see top right of arrange window) and measured latency.
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Thanks. There are no effects in the project, except for the guitar track, but that was added after the other tracks.

I'm using this method:
https://wiki.cockos.com/wiki/index.p...erface_Latency

I may not have stated it clearly, but I'm running the line out of the interface to the line in and recording the result on Track 2. Track 3 is the same, it was just done after I uninstalled my previous card's driver. Track 4 is recording the speakers with a mic connected to In 2, and I'd expect that to have slightly more latency than tracks 2 or 3 due to the extra 3 feet the sounds has to go through the air, but it's actually a few hundred samples less.

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Even when done correctly your results don't show latency as Reaper is already compensating for latency....any difference is just between reported (which you can see top right of arrange window) and measured latency.
I don't quite understand, can you elaborate on this? It seems likely that not (or mis)understanding this is the root of my "problem."
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Old 10-27-2019, 05:29 AM   #6
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And you're 100% sure no plugs in Monitoring FX??

Delete everything except track 2. Cut and move the audio click manually to the grid.

Turn back on use driver reported latency.

Now record track 1 to a new track and compare. How's that look??
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