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04-20-2010, 10:18 AM
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DSK Music has an all in one pseudo-orchestra plug-in thingy:
http://dskmusic.wordpress.com/vsti/
scroll down to "DSK Virtuoso".
it's not sound perfection, but it is useful
UPDATE:
Some ODO still available HERE: http://odosynths.com/vst.htm
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04-20-2010, 02:40 PM
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http://www.meldaproduction.com/freevstplugins/
There's a: Compressor,EQ,Ring Modulator, Flanger, Analyzer,Phaser, Limiter,Wave Shaper, Auto Pan, Vibrato, Tremolo, Stereo Expander... nice ui too..
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Thanks for the tip, I'll check them out
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Have them both Chordspace will definately show up in the list (I have some more of that kind of things). Lemonstrum so far didn't float my boat; it does some nice strumming but it is very limited as far as I could see (I do have the free version).
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04-20-2010, 02:58 PM
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Thanks I'll give it a go.
I'm trying to dload EWQL free symphonic at the moment - keeps dropping out after a few 100Mb
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04-20-2010, 08:04 PM
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that EW free thing is FANTASTIC! there is some low end noise on some of it, but in the mix you'll never hear it and it can be EQ'd out easy enough.
teh DSK thing is handy but not on the level of the EW strings
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04-21-2010, 01:34 PM
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Well, I'm very tired now, but I really support this thread.
Absolutely great.
As well I'm a new user of Reaper.
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04-21-2010, 01:44 PM
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Well, I'm very tired now, but I really support this thread.
Absolutely great.
As well I'm a new user of Reaper.
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Hey, welcome to the reaper forum. Especially as a fellow Dutchman
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04-21-2010, 01:56 PM
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Nice suggestions, will check them out
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04-21-2010, 02:36 PM
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that EW free thing is FANTASTIC! there is some low end noise on some of it, but in the mix you'll never hear it and it can be EQ'd out easy enough.
teh DSK thing is handy but not on the level of the EW strings
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Agree with both these statements. EW is just lovely! - I can see why it is a freebie advertising the bigger samples sets - they must be fantastic (but at a price I can't afford).
Thanks to this thread i'm getting somewhere in sorting out my vst's - hooray
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04-21-2010, 10:15 PM
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+1
There's Synful, Wallender, ...
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I do have some orchestral soundfonts, but..... it is possible to do very impressive orchestral stuff WITHOUT samples: listen to some old Synergy (Larry Fast) tracks and be amazed what he did with just a few analog synths
The power is in the arrangement
EDIT: something to listen to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa42vQtvgIw
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04-23-2010, 11:04 AM
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If u tested them, I'm curious for your opinion about.
To me they sound good, I also changed the Compressive Pro with the Modern Compressor to compare and sound kinda equal, but ... that's just me.
The delay sound great on drums, but maybe to reverbish?
And.. the others from the list on the first post are super, so I don't know if they match that.
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04-23-2010, 11:57 AM
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been using endorphin quite a bit in the last few days. man, oh man... one of the best compressors out there. loving my freeware studio!! will post some track snippets of what i have been up to in a few days...
...i hope you all like pretty dark dub influenced techno
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04-23-2010, 02:14 PM
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And.. the others from the list on the first post are super, so I don't know if they match that.
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Well, cost-wise there's nothing holding me back to test your suggestions. Will report later this weekend
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been using endorphin quite a bit in the last few days. man, oh man... one of the best compressors out there.
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Endorphin is definitely one of my favorite plugins from the day it was released. I would even go so far as to say it's close to PSP VintageWarmer quality-wise... although it has a sound of it's own of course.
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...i hope you all like pretty dark dub influenced techno
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Bring it on
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04-23-2010, 10:27 PM
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04-24-2010, 02:02 AM
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The analysers I have both (and a whole bunch more), will do selection on those as well in the (near) future.
The stelsi-synth didn't do it for me, tested it a while ago. To me it is a bit hyped on the forums but nothing exceptional. If you are looking for the real contenders in this area then take a look at Hahaha CS33, Tal Elek7tro, Antti's Asynth or even Minimoque, LoganA or Deadalus. They are all much better sounding and more versatile.
As for Reggaeton Bass; the information on their website is very clumsy in explaining what it actually does. I only get from it that it's a sound that is used in reggaeton, which means it's most probably not something I would use. The screenshot on their site won't load so I had to hunt down google image search for that. Then there's the fact it's an installer, why do I need an installer for a free VST? Just give me a zip with the DLL-file. I also don't like a one-trick pony. So for me no-go on this one.
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04-24-2010, 03:18 PM
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For chorus I find the Blue Cat free very useful as well as the much more involved charsiesis. Both have been rock solid for me
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04-24-2010, 04:17 PM
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The fact that H.G. Fortune synths haven't been mentioned in this thread is nothing short of blasphemy.
If you need ambient soundscapes or pads that evolve for centuries then there is no better.
A poor mans Omnisphere so to speak.
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04-24-2010, 11:55 PM
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The fact that H.G. Fortune synths haven't been mentioned in this thread is nothing short of blasphemy.
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I do agree completely with you, but.... the fact that the free synths from HGF are actually limited versions (sometimes only two voices) of commercial models has always keep me away from them.
Maybe I have to revisit them
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04-25-2010, 12:26 PM
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as promised, a little snippet of what i have been up to in the freeware lab... the only sound source is oatmeal. almost everything has been bounced to audio and processed heavily but it is all oatmeal!!
http://www.box.net/shared/jp9eski6pm
very much a work in progress...
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04-25-2010, 12:41 PM
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Nice snippet, Blade! Proves what I have been stumbling toward - one good synth can get you there. I'm working hard on that myself.
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04-25-2010, 02:12 PM
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very much a work in progress...
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Great sounds there, like to hear where you are going with this.
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Proves what I have been stumbling toward - one good synth can get you there.
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Only if you don't need sounds that can not be made with that one good synth
The saying goes for synths as well: there is no silver bullet solution
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_...diomatic_usage
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04-25-2010, 02:22 PM
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as promised, a little snippet of what i have been up to in the freeware lab... the only sound source is oatmeal. almost everything has been bounced to audio and processed heavily but it is all oatmeal!!
http://www.box.net/shared/jp9eski6pm
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nice, i wouldn't have guessed that's oatmeal.
since technogremlin mentioned it here, i've been mostly using hahaha cs33. i think oatmeal was too much for me to manage at this point, being that i'm a synth tweaking green horn, and using simple synths like cs33, jp 7a, and asynth is easing the learning curve for me. put another way, oatmeal was kicking my ass.
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04-25-2010, 02:34 PM
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put another way, oatmeal was kicking my ass.
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Oatmeal is quite a big synth so programming it can be a bit 'involved'. Synths like CS33 are great for starting out with learning to program sounds, especially because the functions are layed out in a logical manner. Just gather some experience and then move on to something like Oatmeal.
Another free synth with a great layout to start programming with is Deadalus:
Download is here: http://www.omnitaur.se/
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04-25-2010, 04:26 PM
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Oatmeal is quite a big synth so programming it can be a bit 'involved'. Synths like CS33 are great for starting out with learning to program sounds, especially because the functions are layed out in a logical manner. Just gather some experience and then move on to something like Oatmeal.
Another free synth with a great layout to start programming with is Deadalus:
Download is here: http://www.omnitaur.se/
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i like the sound and layout of that synth, but it's doing some weird stuff here. i had to firewall it in reaper......it crashed reaper within a few minutes. when i click record in reaper, the sound of some patches change from what they sounded like before clicking record. i'm getting some intermittent clicks, too. i'd report this stuff to the developer, but i don't see any contact info.
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Originally Posted by technogremlin
Oatmeal is quite a big synth so programming it can be a bit 'involved'. Synths like CS33 are great for starting out with learning to program sounds, especially because the functions are layed out in a logical manner. Just gather some experience and then move on to something like Oatmeal.
Another free synth with a great layout to start programming with is Deadalus:
Download is here: http://www.omnitaur.se/
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Weird. I just stumbled across it this morning. Gonna keep this for a while.
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04-25-2010, 05:19 PM
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hey zoid9, is daedalus running problem free for you so far?
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i ran across this tonight. http://tactilesounds.blogspot.com/p/...thesizers.html
sounds good to me, thought i'd drop a mention here where the synth geeks are sure to see it.
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i like the sound and layout of that synth, but it's doing some weird stuff here. i had to firewall it in reaper......it crashed reaper within a few minutes. when i click record in reaper, the sound of some patches change from what they sounded like before clicking record. i'm getting some intermittent clicks, too. i'd report this stuff to the developer, but i don't see any contact info.
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I don't have it in my own setup any more but recall it working correctly. Will try it for you somewhere this week. No idea how to contact the dev atm, but he used to be on KVR forums.
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Yet another 808 emu. I stopped trying these out and focus on the ones I have/like: Dr Fusion II and Drumatic 3. With those two and the Battery Studio Drums I have (loaded in ShortCircuit) I don't need anything else
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04-26-2010, 06:19 AM
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Yet another 808 emu. I stopped trying these out and focus on the ones I have/like: Dr Fusion II and Drumatic 3. With those two and the Battery Studio Drums I have (loaded in ShortCircuit) I don't need anything else
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i've had drumatic 3, drumatic ve, and ersdrums installed for quite a while (tried dr fusion also), but ts-808 sounds noticeably more like analog to my ears. the others sound kind of ice picky and over compressed to me in comparison.
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Nice snippet, Blade! Proves what I have been stumbling toward - one good synth can get you there. I'm working hard on that myself.
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thanks indeed, one good synth can get you there but, as TG points out, only if it does everything you need. for me oatmeal very much does. if, for example i wanted authentic analogue sounding timbres i would have to look elsewhere.
this is a good thread to peruse if you want to try and cut down to just one synth:
http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=53285
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04-26-2010, 07:07 AM
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thanks indeed, one good synth can get you there but, as TG points out, only if it does everything you need. for me oatmeal very much does. if, for example i wanted authentic analogue sounding timbres i would have to look elsewhere.
this is a good thread to peruse if you want to try and cut down to just one synth:
http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=53285
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There's been that "One Synth you would never sell" thread at KVR. I found it to be quite interesting.
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=283369
Often the same Synths came upas people's choice, I thought that to be remarkable. (I voted Predator)
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04-26-2010, 07:08 AM
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Great sounds there, like to hear where you are going with this.
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hey TG, thanks to be honest it probably won't go too much further than it already has production/composition wise. i have almost finished an arrangement and the last thing to do will be to automate lots of stuff in a subtle way to create a bit of movement within some of the sounds. i'm very much into techno artists like surgeon, regis, james ruskin etc. so this is the type of feel i am going for. in fact, compared to some of their productions mine is already too busy!! i try to be minimal in nature when composing but in truth it is extremely hard to successfully pull off minimalism imo (in any style of music).
one thing to mention is that almost everything has been compressed heavily using blockfish and/or endorphin. there is also plenty of instances of ferox adding subtle saturation/colouration - love those plugs!
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indeed. although my own silver bullet currently has 'oatmeal' written on the side!
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i put in my vote for oatmeal in that thread a while back! (i'm do_androids_dream over there btw )
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nice, i wouldn't have guessed that's oatmeal.
since technogremlin mentioned it here, i've been mostly using hahaha cs33. i think oatmeal was too much for me to manage at this point, being that i'm a synth tweaking green horn, and using simple synths like cs33, jp 7a, and asynth is easing the learning curve for me. put another way, oatmeal was kicking my ass.
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cheers brainwreck i tend to bounce everything to audio for further processing so eventually a lot of it becomes almost unrecognisable from what it started as. the kick drum in particluar has been processed, compressed and bounced about 3 or 4 seperate times to get it sounding like that (and it still doesn't sound quite how i want it - bit too clicky in a 'minimal' techno kinda way)
i haven't tried hahaha cs33 but asynth is awesome - quite restricted in modulation possibilities but awesome sounding (and all those filter types too!!!)
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i try to be minimal in nature when composing but in truth it is extremely hard to successfully pull off minimalism imo (in any style of music).
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I do agree completely there. But your track sounds great and I'm looking forward to the final result.
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...although my own silver bullet currently has 'oatmeal' written on the side!
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But that is because you are now making silver-bullet music
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i've had drumatic 3, drumatic ve, and ersdrums installed for quite a while (tried dr fusion also), but ts-808 sounds noticeably more like analog to my ears. the others sound kind of ice picky and over compressed to me in comparison.
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Personal preference has much to do with what you like to achieve, my music is not actually in need of 808-style drums My main drum sounds come from Battery Studio Drums, Dr Fusion and Drumatic for me are for additional electronic percussions and such.
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sorry - totally OT!
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on that, I was just going to ask Techno if he plans to include any basic instrument VSTs - non-synth types - like Piano, EP, Bass, Guitar, Strings?
http://www.yohng.com/ has bass, piano, EP very basic, not FANTASTIC
http://dskmusic.wordpress.com/vsti/ has many sounds, again not FANTASTIC, but great for basic composition and some production
What about awesome (but large) free players like YELLOW TOOLS, KORE PLAYER, EAST WEST STRINGS, PROTEUS VX?
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I do agree completely there. But your track sounds great and I'm looking forward to the final result.
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will be sure to post it here when it's finished
i'm rarely 'astounded' by music but...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA4-9q5UDCc
awesome example of modern minimalism imo. brutal yet beautiful. if only i could do this!
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