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I could use some help figuring how to control the fans here..I don't think my case fan is actually going on ever.
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12-13-2020, 07:11 PM
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Following the davefinito overclocking guides, no idea what all these bios settings do, a bit scared, but here's locked to 4.9ghz five minutes of prime 95 max test
Same thing but with Speedstep and C-states off
Same thing but with the case sides back on
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12-13-2020, 10:06 PM
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That Prime95 will torture test your CPU... it pushes your CPU very hard. I haven't done a test like that in a while, but I just grabbed Prime95 and ran it, and it had my CPU in the 80s at one point (in which case, I stopped the test). I can safely say everything is well cooled on my PC, and it was in the 80s with this test. So, I wouldn't be worried if your CPU gets in the 70s while running this test, like in your pics.
If it's in the high-70s while doing work in Reaper, then ya, again, I'd be looking into why it's that high.
You mentioned "I don't think my case fan is actually going on ever". Did you really mean "case fan". Case fan, singular? Or did you mean CPU fan? The CPU probably would have melted (or your PC rebooted itself) running Prime95's max test though.
Typically you have more than one case fan. There could be some on the sides, front, back or top (not necessarily 1 in each of those locations, however). 3 is the bare minimum # of case fans I'll ever have in a PC. Our circumstances are different though.. I need more cooling for gaming because of the GPU, and you definitely need noise to a minimum (although mine is super quiet).
Anyways, there's a variety of ways you can check if your fans are spinning. Eyeball them (open up case panels if you have to) or check RPMs in a tool that reports fan speeds.
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12-14-2020, 08:38 AM
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have some confidence and go ahead and stick your hand in the case. place a finger close to or on a hot part. you should ground your hand before touching anything but there is no harm in touching working electronics.
I was taught early in my career to not fear electronics. my early boss once licked his finger and ran it back and forth across a circuit board, I was terrified, it didn't matter.
don't touch wires and exposed areas, but the tops of chips and even bare areas around the system, heat sinks etc. what areas are getting hot? where are the hot parts located (the CPU, GPU etc) and how are the fans hitting them.
is the fan noise loud? chips will run hot but that's expected.
in the end the fans will run then it's a matter of getting them to run quietly so you can enjoy the music.
almost there! no case pics?
hth, playing along vicariously.
what bios settings are a mystery?
let's figure this out. I have no money but I want to learn this stuff for when I'm ready.
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12-14-2020, 09:54 AM
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Its this Bios https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/m..._EM_WEB_EN.pdf
Jim is saying I should be able to sync all cores at 5.1 ghz
Right now I have it at 4.9 and I have turned speed stepping and c states back to auto, otherwise, I'm following along with this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGlv...nel=Davefinito
Jim made it sound like I could just set sync all cores and set the ratio to 5.1.
When I tried that I got those really high temps, but since then, I have forced the case fan on and put a more agressive CPU fan profile on and ended up with the results above, at least in 4.9ghz
If I go there today, I'll reset the Bios back to auto and just do those two changes and see what happens
Really interesting to me that despite all the "obvious common knowledge", temps didnt go down massively with the case sides all on, in fact I think they went up.
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12-14-2020, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by pipelineaudio
Really interesting to me that despite all the "obvious common knowledge", temps didnt go down massively with the case sides all on, in fact I think they went up.
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I'll poke around at those links.
I would personally stick with the defaults for everything. being able to return your system to a known stable state after an experiment is very important. I'd go all the way through the install then go back to the beginning and look for the 'nice to have' boosts and play with the settings.
stay positive, you're learning your machine from the ground up, this will serve you well over the coming years.
edit - I made a wrong statement about the fans working.
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12-14-2020, 10:12 AM
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looked at the pdf, page 17, bottom half. looks like you set a baseline speed for all cores then can select which few can be overclocked. looks alright.
overclocking CPUs will make them hotter, not cooler. I did a quick google search and looking at the results they all back this up. this quote might be a handy rule of thumb "CPU power consumption often rises as the square of the core clock frequency"
sounds about right.
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12-14-2020, 10:16 AM
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The temps went WAY down with the fan changes. The earlier test from the other day before that were idling near 100. Hopefully I didn't hurt the CPU or anything
This is what it looked like idling (not prime 95) with sync all cores and ratio set to 51 before I forced the chassis fan on and put the more aggressive cpu fan profile on
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12-14-2020, 11:08 AM
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I will reiterate, I'm not an "overclocking guy" per se, but 100C idle is definitely cause for great concern, so yes, good thing you shut it down. Something not right if you're seeing that kind of temperature at idle.
I don't want to panic you or anything, but even your current high50s-60s temps for idling seem too high to me, even for overclocking. I don't know what you should expect with them overclocking, so I'd suggest you dig around for that info or perhaps post on some overclocking forums.
You might even want to take another shot at reapplying the thermal paste. It would actually give you a good look to see if your technique worked when you pull things apart and verify. If you do go that route, make sure you clean off every bit of thermal paste off the cpu and the cooler before redoing it. It's actually pretty easy with isopropyl alcohol.
However, probably the real answer here.... What cpu fan are you using, again? You went with the BeQuiet model of some sort, right? I will again say that I have no knowledge on that fan. It's possible it is good enough for cooling your chip at default, but not good for overclocking. Again, this is an area I'm not familiar with answering, and just guessing and telling you to see what happens wouldn't be wise advice from me. Overclocking requires good cooling, not just run of the mill cooling that most cheaper coolers provide. I don't know anything about the fan you've got, if it will provide enough cooling for overclocking. I'd honestly suggest you hit up an overclocking forum and ask about that if you want to go down that route, or just stick to standard clock speed.
I should have asked you this question in the beginning, but I don't really know what it is you do with Reaper that you need to overclock an i7-10700K. Is it necessary? That's a pretty powerful chip out of the box compared to what most people use. Not saying you don't, I just probably should have asked (and you don't have to tell me why.. if you believe you need it, that's good by me) I would honestly try it without overclocking first, and see if you really want to push it. If so, then my thought is you most likely need a better cooler.
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Not a 'moral judgement', but it's generally not necessary to overclock new syatems to get decent Reaper performance, unless you're doing movie scoring or Foley work with 1000s of tracks, or doing very demanding video work.
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12-15-2020, 12:37 AM
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Not a 'moral judgement', but it's generally not necessary to overclock new syatems to get decent Reaper performance, unless you're doing movie scoring or Foley work with 1000s of tracks, or doing very demanding video work.
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Its not so much about that as not having the speeds bounce around when doing 32 inputs at low latency and streaming to OBS and everything else at the same time.
I'm using the fan Jim recommended. Its a noctua something. Very quiet.
I got 4.9ghz locked and speed stepped running in what seems safe temps, doesn't really crack 40's in REAPER under a heavy load. RT CPU was WAY lower than with unlocked and speed stepping on in auto ratio. Barely any actual cpu difference, but the critical RT CPU really went down a lot
How dangerous is turning speed stepping and C states off generally? I remember that as being THE tweak back in the day to make a DAW run, but hasn't really seemed as necessary anymore. Jim still holds that as a reason why laptops can be such a problem
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12-15-2020, 12:47 AM
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Holy hell, these are the temps of my laptop at idle...this was the new laptop that was the straw that broke the camel's back about upgrading the studio computer
It was so embarrassingly much faster than the studio computer that I couldnt even run mixes from home on the studio anymore
Kind of scared to run prime 95
Aaand prime 95 after turning on the extra fan the laptop has
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12-15-2020, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by pipelineaudio
Its not so much about that as not having the speeds bounce around when doing 32 inputs at low latency and streaming to OBS and everything else at the same time.
I'm using the fan Jim recommended. Its a noctua something. Very quiet.
I got 4.9ghz locked and speed stepped running in what seems safe temps, doesn't really crack 40's in REAPER under a heavy load. RT CPU was WAY lower than with unlocked and speed stepping on in auto ratio. Barely any actual cpu difference, but the critical RT CPU really went down a lot
How dangerous is turning speed stepping and C states off generally? I remember that as being THE tweak back in the day to make a DAW run, but hasn't really seemed as necessary anymore. Jim still holds that as a reason why laptops can be such a problem
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Oh I actually recommended a Noctua D15 too, or one of their other models in your other thread. I thought you went with a Bequiet model that was suggested elsewhere. Noctua makes great air coolers. I haven't looked at how good they are with overclocked 10700k though. Sounds like your pc is in good shape right now with what you see in reaper, however.
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12-15-2020, 10:32 AM
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What about the wisdom on speed stepping and c states? Does disabling either of these mean the PU can't do the emergency throttle down on overheat? I'm unclear on that.
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12-15-2020, 11:14 AM
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Did you re-use or clone your system drive?
The reason I ask is that maybe the reason that new laptop runs so much better is that it doesn't have the years of accumulated wear and tear on it that your studio computer does.
Over time, drives get fragmented, registries get bloated, and file systems get deeper and more complex. In and of themselves, they are not major issues, but when combined together, they can have an impact on overall computer performance.
There are limits to what hardware alone can do when it comes to overall computer throughput.
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12-15-2020, 11:54 AM
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That was with a clone, but I'm completely clean installing now
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12-15-2020, 12:21 PM
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Cool. Call me if you need anything.
Is this your office computer or the one in the big room?
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12-15-2020, 12:26 PM
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If you're doing a clean Windows 10 install, a little trick I ran into a few months back.
I wiped a laptop and reinstalled Windows 10 but at one point during the setup, it took me to a screen where I needed to create a Microsoft account before I could continue. I didn't want to do that, and I found online that if you shut it down at that point, disconnect the computer from the internet, then restart the computer, it skips that step and you can proceed with the setup from there.
May have just been something quirky with my Windows license or my laptop, but just thought I would pass that on.
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Pretty sure you mean 970 Evo, not 870.. there's a huge difference between the two. 970 is m.2, 870 is Sata. If you mean 970...
Each bios is different, even within manufacturers, so it's hard to answer without seeing it... but....
Check in there for M.2 PCIe configuration for the slot where you plugged the 970 into. It should be set to x4 (not x2). That might not be in your bios though. It might be automatic (my MSI bios appears to be).. just as long as it isn't set for x2. But look around for anything relating to m.2, specifically. That's the main setting that you need to be aware of. I wish I could see your bios somewhere to look around though. I'll let you know if I can figure anything else you need to change.
At some point you should benchmark the drive. That would help. Samsung has a tool for that. I personally use CrystalDiskMark.
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A couple more things:
Grab Samsung Magician from here and ensure your firmware is up to date on the drive. I just noticed mine wasn't! Gotta stay on top of that, apparently. Also, before applying, it's a good idea to check online for the bios version being applied to ensure there aren't any issues from it.
You can run benchmarks from Samsung Magician too. You can even confirm it's in PCIE Gen. 3 x4 mode (under drive details, right side labelled "interface"), which saves you a trip to the bios. I'm not sure if you can install the NVMe driver from Samsung Magician or not, but you should ensure that is installed. You can grab that from the same link ( https://www.samsung.com/semiconducto...ownload/tools/)
It goes without saying, but your BIOS should also be updated if not already done, and also ensure all drivers for your motherboard have been installed too.
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Got most everything back up and did the first live streaming and mixing test last night, with obs and all the cameras on and a pretty hefty mix went very well, stayed under 11% RT-CPU
https://youtu.be/Q_qyEMPY_H0?t=400
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That's great! Not surprising. Your computer is a beast now. Would have to probably do something like orchestral music with loads of tracks/vst/vstis to really push the CPU, et al on it.
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My last big hurdle is getting USB to turn off when the computer turns off. I set the two options for it in the bios that I could find and still no luck
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My last big hurdle is getting USB to turn off when the computer turns off. I set the two options for it in the bios that I could find and still no luck
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Is having the USB ports hot all time the causing some kind of issue for you?
If so, maybe the easiest way to fix that is by turning the power switch on the power supply off. If you can't get to the switch, maybe put one of those power strips with a switch on it on your desk and then turn that off once the computer shuts down.
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Is having the USB ports hot all the causing some kind of issue for you?
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I was thinking the same, it's kind of asking for random issues when the machine goes to sleep/wakes and USB isn't there. I know this is about power off but I bet they go hand-in-hand in practice. If it's working great now STOP and run as-is for a week, if you keep tweaking at this point, some anomaly can pop up later and you'll never know which 'tweak' caused it.
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I was thinking the same
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Great minds think alike!!
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It means a lot of expensive and hard to source things like my RME ARC and CME WIDI Bud are staying on, which is not at all a great thing to me.
Turns out there was a thing inside windows power management that also had to work in addition to the Bios settings. Seems to be ok now
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It means a lot of expensive and hard to source things like my RME ARC and CME WIDI Bud are staying on, which is not at all a great thing to me.
Turns out there was a thing inside windows power management that also had to work in addition to the Bios settings. Seems to be ok now
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Yes, the power management one is the one that usually bites you. If it doesn't give you an issue that's good/go for it, but if you leave a project open or something and come back later, it might crash things when it wakes up so be aware of that.
Otherwise, there is no real harm with a 5V always on for something like the RME ARC (half the world runs that way as always on). It can be a problem for something like a Fireface 400/800/UFX whose bigger/hotter PSU that plugs directly into AC can toast it's caps over time, highly unlikely for the ARC unless it gets fairly warm when using (which I kind of don't expect running of USB power).
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Does anyone know if you disable speed stepping and C -states in the BIOS can the CPU still emergency throttle down if it gets too hot? These have a huge effect on RT-CPU in reaper for live fx
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Is your keyboard USB and is that one of the ports that you turned off through Windows?
If so, that might become a troubleshooting issue down the road because your keyboard will be dead until Windows starts to load.
Might prevent you from getting into BIOS etc.
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Does anyone know if you disable speed stepping and C -states in the BIOS can the CPU still emergency throttle down if it gets too hot? These have a huge effect on RT-CPU in reaper for live fx
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I'm guessing but power savings and thermal protection should/may be separate things. As far as throttling vs shutting down when too hot, not sure.
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Is your keyboard USB and is that one of the ports that you turned off through Windows?
If so, that might become a troubleshooting issue down the road because your keyboard will be dead until Windows starts to load.
Might prevent you from getting into BIOS etc.
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Oh thats a good point. I'll see what happens with that
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Weird that it doesn't just work thru the bios when the bios explicitly says it
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C states and power stepping need to be turned off for real time audio. It's not dangerous at all, just less power efficient- instead of idling at like 1.1GHz and very low voltage it'll idle at whatever you have set in BIOS at all times. It won't run full wattage the entire time though, you're not going to burn anything up as long as temps remain okay.
As for the overclocking/temperature bits, "just set to 5.1GHz and go" isn't super actionable because so much depends on your cooling. Like yes, the chip you have should absolutely be stable at 5.1GHz at an appropriate voltage, but that voltage might be pushing too much heat. It takes some time and testing to make sure everything is stable.
If you run a stress test and your temps spike into the 90s you need to turn down the voltage or update your cooling. The max temp you should see in a stress test is 80C, and ideally shouldn't sustain there. When you pull down the voltage you may need to pull down the CPU speed as well, it's a bit of a game of cat and mouse since each chip is a bit different.
Idle temps aren't super important, with your setup I'd expect somewhere in the low 30s. I'm at 4.8GHz with a 9900k and a Noctua C14s, voltage I think at 1.28. I can push it hotter but I want to see what the real life temps are like at load. Been using Realbench from Asus for stress testing, it runs Handbrake and a few other high intensity things at the same time so it's more of a "real" test of what your hardware can do. CPU-Z's benchmark is closer to what we'll get to full load for real time audio and temps are 10-20 degrees lower than full on AVX stress testing, which is good for us.
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Hey thanks! This is the expert level advice that is so hard to google for lately!
What is the danger in under volting?
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Weird that it doesn't just work thru the bios when the bios explicitly says it
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I'm not saying that's the case, just something to check.
If you changed the Windows power settings, and you can still get into BIOS after a shut down, specifically a shut down, not a restart, you're good.
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On the note of not having a keyboard in the BIOS, I ran into that one day maybe a year ago for the first time ever. It wasn't from disabling USB anywhere though, that I recall. I think it might have been when I enabled UEFI in the BIOS.
Anyways, aside from a trip down memory lane, I'm just pointing this out because I went out to the nearby thrift shop (Value Village) and found a PS/2 keyboard there.. so there's an idea, should you lose BIOS momentarily (and if turning it on in Win doesn't solve the problem with BIOS) Can find them probably at any of those thrift stores for like 2 or 3 bucks. Now I just keep it on hand for emergencies. LOL!
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Just got to try it, the keyboard and mouse work fine in the BIOS and power is actually off when I say to make power off.
I'm still a bit confused on speed stepping and c-states. There is some sort of thermal overload protection that automatically throttles down my purpose recording built laptop from a few years ago (6770K) and it came from the builder with speed stepping and C-states off. I've actually had a situation where it had to be in direct sunlight, it beeped at me and powered itself down. That was two years ago and I still run it fine now.
This system here does not have a speaker in the case (though I think I heard a beep when it hit the heat limit the other day when I was testing Prime 95, are there some sort of speaker on the mobo itself?)
If I disable speed stepping and c states and it DOES get too hot, will it still be able to power itself down for safety?
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