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10-17-2023, 02:43 AM
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Recommendations for a midi foot controller?
I'm looking for a foot-operated midi controller for Reaper. The main usage will be to control transport when doing retakes on guitar/keyboard, and also for use with the Super8 looper. An expression pedal would be a nice-to-have (e.g. for wah pedals in Amplitube), but not essential. Probably a minimum of 4 switches.
The Behringer FCB1010 looks great, and is about the right price, but it looks HUGE, and maybe too big to fit under my desk.
Has anyone come across anything else a little more compact that they can recommend?
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10-17-2023, 04:58 AM
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I have, and love, the FCB1010, especially with one of the upgraded firmware chips. But yes, it’s not small.
What are you actually after? There are plenty of 4 button foot switches available; either wired (icon G-Board) or Bluetooth (IK Multlimedia iRig Blueboard). They’re both simple 4 button options. You can get all the way up to 10 and more like the Behringer S you know.
The iRig works a treat. And I’ve played with a couple of other wired ones; they’re all pretty much of a muchness.
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10-17-2023, 05:31 AM
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I Like the line 6 shortboard mk2. Sends midi, configurable, not expensive second handed. 13 buttons.
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10-17-2023, 06:41 AM
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Thanks for the feedback. My initial use for the footswitch would be to control basic record/redo functions when I'm performing takes on a guitar or keyboard. So for example I currently have a keyboard hotkey set to abort the current take and start recording it again when I make a mistake. I want to be able to do this without taking my hands off the guitar or keyboard.
I also want to use it as a looper control pedal, in conjunction with the Super 8 Looper in Reaper.
Beyond that, I guess I'll discover more uses for it once I start using it. I have Amplitube 4, so I suspect it would also be useful for controlling FX there. Perhaps more so if there was also an expression pedal for wah etc.
Another consideration is that I will nearly always be sitting when I'm using it (it's for a small home studio). With that in mind, anything more than 2 rows of switches would probably not be ideal, as it would be awkward stretching to a 3rd row when sitting (!).
The Icon G-Board looks interesting, but it's hard to find any reviews of it. The Line6 Shortboard also looks good, although it has that awkward third row of buttons!
Wireless would be good, but I'm not sure how reliably bluetooth would work. Also the iRig Blueboard seems to be a MAC/iOS device? (I run Windows 10).
The one thing that's becoming clear is how much of a bargain price the FCB1010 is....
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10-17-2023, 07:21 AM
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a mix of this and that if you dared fiddling with soft and hardware a little bit
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10-17-2023, 10:48 AM
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fcb1010 goin strong for 20+ years, plus you can install a modded chip for even more fun!
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10-17-2023, 11:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by foxAsteria
fcb1010 goin strong for 20+ years, plus you can install a modded chip for even more fun!
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What are the main attractions of a modded chip?
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10-17-2023, 11:44 AM
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You can get feedback on all the switches. Fully customizable. The original chip is pretty limited. https://www.fcb1010.eu/ But for what you describe, it wouldn't be necessary.
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10-17-2023, 12:44 PM
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I used many, also expensive ones, but in the end my favored best working solution is using a Launchpad with Realearn.
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10-17-2023, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by foxAsteria
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Hmmm...now that looks pretty much perfect. 2.5 times the price of the FCB1010.
If only the FCB1010 were more expensive LOL
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10-17-2023, 03:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by itm
Hmmm...now that looks pretty much perfect. 2.5 times the price of the FCB1010.
If only the FCB1010 were more expensive LOL
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It's also an audio interface and comes with software. I would only recommend it as a MIDI controller if you have the money or are already invested in IK software.
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10-18-2023, 03:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by foxAsteria
It's also an audio interface and comes with software. I would only recommend it as a MIDI controller if you have the money or are already invested in IK software.
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Ah OK yes I now see why it's so pricey - has alot of stuff that I don't need. Thanks.
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10-18-2023, 04:40 AM
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The best one I've had was the Audiofront midi expression
which is just usb to 1/4" and you can use a footswitch or expression pedal
they've been out of stock as software really isn't that popular
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10-18-2023, 05:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RunBeerRun
The best one I've had was the Audiofront midi expression
which is just usb to 1/4" and you can use a footswitch or expression pedal
they've been out of stock as software really isn't that popular
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Hmmm...that's an interesting option...so you can mix and match footswitches and expression pedals as you wish. Out of stock, as you say, but a nice flexible option.
I've also been checking out a smaller version of the Line6 Shortboard mentioned earlier - the LINE 6 FBV EXPRESS MKII. Looks like a nice compact unit, and comes in at under £100.
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10-18-2023, 05:46 AM
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So if I want to use the same foot controller to control different functions, depending on the scenario, will I need to reconfigure it every time I change the scenario?
For example, I might want to use the footswitches to control basic playback functions (play/rec/stop) when I'm recording takes on keyboard or guitar, but I might want them to control specific looper functions when I'm using the Super 8 Looper.
Likewise, I might want to use the expression pedal as a wah controller when playing guitar using Amplitube, but as a mod wheel controller when I'm playing a keyboard.
Will I need to make config changes to the foot controller whenever I want to switch between the scenarios described above? Alternatively, is there a way of defining/selecting banks of midi controls (effectively different mappings of footswitches to midi CC codes), and then simply switching to a different bank when I change the scenario?
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10-18-2023, 05:54 AM
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I had an old Line 6 floor board lying around that I bought second hand a long time ago. It is intended to be used with the original Pod. I hardly ever used it in that way. And it only works in combination with the Pod.
This summer I found something online from a guy who managed to turn this thing into a MIDI controller using an Arduino board. I followed what he did, with some modifications of my own, and it works very well. It has 9 switches and two pedals/volume controls. The whole system is powered via USB and a standard ethernet cable connects the floor board to the arduino which in turn plugs straight into a USB port. So for little money I have a solution that I'm quite happy with.
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10-18-2023, 07:50 AM
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Asides from my stock Line 6 shortboard mkII, I made this controller from a Line 6 shortboard mkII and a teensy. It has served me for the last 7 years. Still use it all the time.
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