Control Surface Integration (CSI) Technical Feature Discussion - Page 194

audio2u · 03-29-2020, 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WaveTrans

It´s been a while since I done this, meaning it is quite stable, once it runs.

The HomePage is Geoffs page, you should remove it.

Then add your own page give it a name etc.

select the page and add surfaces by clicking "Add Midi" button at the bottom of the righthand window. This should open a dialog wherein your surfaces should be shown.

You have to double click the page, then CSI shows its existing surfaces.

If your surfaces are properly installed and recognized they should be found under Preferences/Audio/Midi Devices/ and they should be labeled as disabled in both Midi input and output windows.

By the way, I´m on windows 10 and I have no experience with the Mac install.

Wavetrans,
Thanks for the input!
Sadly, I have done exactly as you describe, but whatever surfaces I configure in the right hand panel DO NOT remain. I click OK (which returns me to the Prefs/Control Surfaces window, and then immediately click on the CSI surface I've just created, and Edit, and when the CSI settings window opens, there's nothing in the right hand panel. The settings just will not persist, and I don't understand why.
I'm on Windows 10 Home 64 bit.

Cragster · 03-29-2020, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by audio2u

Thanks for the link, Wavetrans!
I removed my existing CSI control surface from Prefs/Controllers.
I then follow the instructions on the github link.
Everything went to plan until step 10. I do NOT see a list of controllers on the right hand side.
On the left hand side, I see a page called "HomePage".
If I manually add a MIDI surface on the right hand side, it once again refuses to stick.
I followed all the remaining steps, including running the CSI Edit Mode from the Reaper action list.
All faders on my (original, MIDI version) Mackie Control Universal are at 50% position (not unity, but somewhere around -10).
If I move them, they jump back tp their original position. Nothing displayed on the screen either.
Also, ReaScript window does NOT display upon any kindd of user input (fader move, button press, etc).
Am I missing any steps in setup?
Thanks in advance!

Check out poetnprophits how to install and setup CSI video. It helped me out alot. I believe thers a link for it on thr wiki manual page

audio2u · 03-29-2020, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cragster

Check out poetnprophits how to install and setup CSI video. It helped me out alot. I believe thers a link for it on thr wiki manual page

Thanks, I'll go hunting. Hopefully, it's not the video I've already seen!

Cragster · 03-29-2020, 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by audio2u

Thanks, I'll go hunting. Hopefully, it's not the video I've already seen!

I think the link is in the wiki page table of contents

audio2u · 03-29-2020, 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cragster

I think the link is in the wiki page table of contents

Yep, it was. And unfortunately, I had already watched it.
I'm certain I've done everything according to the instructions, but the "surface" settings just will not stick.

Geoff Waddington · 03-29-2020, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@Ossarium

Hi,

why my Zons don't change between ZoomOn and ZoomOff?

Thanks.

Code:

Zone Home
	OnTrackSelection MapSelectedTrackSendsToWidgets
	IncludedZones
		"Buttons|"
		"Channel|1-8"
		"MasterChannel|"
		"JogWheel|"
		"ZoomOn|"
	IncludedZonesEnd
ZoneEnd

Zone "ZoomOff"
	Left			TrackBank "-1"
	Right			TrackBank "1"
	Zoom 			GoZone 			ZoomOn
ZoneEnd 

  
Zone "ZoomOn"
	Up				Reaper			"40111"		// Zoom in vertical
	Down			Reaper			"40112"		// Zoom out vertical
	Right			Reaper			"1012"		// Zoom in horizontal
	Left			Reaper			"1011"		// Zoom out horizontal
	
	Shift+Up		Reaper			"41325"		// View: Increase selected track heights
	Shift+Down		Reaper			"41326"		// View: Decrease selected track heights

	Zoom 			GoZone 			ZoomOff
ZoneEnd  

Zone "ZoomOn|"
	Up				Reaper			"40111"		// Zoom in vertical
	Down			Reaper			"40112"		// Zoom out vertical
	Right			Reaper			"1012"		// Zoom in horizontal
	Left			Reaper			"1011"		// Zoom out horizontal
	
	Shift+Up		Reaper			"41325"		// View: Increase selected track heights
	Shift+Down		Reaper			"41326"		// View: Decrease selected track heights

	Zoom 			GoZone 			ZoomOff
ZoneEnd

Make the changes bolded above and you should be fine

Cragster · 03-29-2020, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by audio2u

Yep, it was. And unfortunately, I had already watched it.
I'm certain I've done everything according to the instructions, but the "surface" settings just will not stick.

Are you using windows ? Did you update cc runtime ? That happened to me when i was setting up and nothing would stick

Geoff Waddington · 03-29-2020, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funkybot

Ok, still can't get the spill working, but I've not got the ToggleVCA working and my VCA's showing up.

Here's what I'm working with:

Code:

Widget F1
    Press 90 36 7f 90 36 00
    FB_TwoState 90 36 7f 90 36 00
WidgetEnd 

Widget F2
    Press 90 37 7f 90 37 00
    FB_TwoState 90 37 7f 90 37 00
WidgetEnd 

Widget F3
    Press 90 38 7f 90 38 00
    FB_TwoState 90 38 7f 90 38 00
WidgetEnd

Widget F4
    Press 90 39 7f 90 39 00
    FB_TwoState 90 39 7f 90 39 00
WidgetEnd

CMC-QC.zon:

Code:

Zone "Home"
	IncludedZones
		"Buttons|"
	IncludedZonesEnd
ZoneEnd

Zone "Buttons|"
	F1 		Alt
	F2 		Option
	F3 		Control
	F4 		ToggleVCAMode
	Shift 		Shift
ZoneEnd

Here's an excerpt of the Eucon.zon (haven't modified this at all)

Code:

Zone "Channel|"
	TrackNavigator
	Alt+Select|		TrackToggleVCASpill
	FaderDB|  		TrackVolumeDB
	FaderTouch|  		TrackTouch
ZoneEnd

My steps are:

1. Click F4 enter ToggleVCAMode (VCA's appear on surface, other tracks are hidden)
2. Hold F1 on the CMC-QC which is defined as the Alt modifier
3. Click "Assign Sel Y" on the Eucon while still holding F1

Result: the VCA track gets selected but doesn't actually spill. Thanks as always for your help! I'll get this documented once I figure it out.

OK, good progress.

Seems like Alt is not engaging, try changing this:

Code:

	Select|  		TrackUniqueSelect
	Shift+Select|  		TrackRangeSelect
	Control+Select|  	TrackSelect
	Shift+Control+Select|	TogglePin
	Alt+Select|		TrackToggleVCASpill

to this:

Code:

	Select|  		TrackToggleVCASpill
	Shift+Select|  		TrackRangeSelect
	Control+Select|  	TrackSelect
	Shift+Control+Select|	TogglePin
//	Alt+Select|		TrackToggleVCASpill

to determine if Alt is the issue.

UNdark · 03-29-2020, 04:13 AM

HI - not posted for a while as this issue continued and I can't get to the bottom of it. Loads of other features i have addedto my zon but the jog wheel is too important to me so had to go back to the internal MCU setup that comes with reaper for now. (jog wheel works)
Ideally, could anyone post the correct command list to get the jog wheel working please? I tried copying Mixmonkey's original - this did once work before.. but no more.

I have the most recent upload of the csi (working using mcu mst) and not modified anything - i'd like to go from there then i can add all my other stuff i've done to my zon files.

Macbook pro - os el capitan - reaper 5.99 (some contextual toolbars that are fine in 5 don't work for me in 6 yet - issue reported)

THe things i have been able to program have been brilliant and can't wait to load it up with all my other commands - many thanks !
UNdark

Cragster · 03-29-2020, 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by audio2u

Yep, it was. And unfortunately, I had already watched it.
I'm certain I've done everything according to the instructions, but the "surface" settings just will not stick.

Im just throwing out stuff i went thru when setting up. Did you edit your "page" and add your mst ?. Then edit on the right side adding your controller midi in and out ? Add your zone ? Forgive me Im not at my computer .trying to renember off the top my head. If none of this works somebody else here will get u going

Geoff Waddington · 03-29-2020, 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdc

I am thrilled to find today that our Avid S3 and Euphonix Transport controllers both appear to be working to some extent in the EuCon extension to CSI. Most exciting is the list of 1000's of Reaper Actions that now appear in the EuControl app allowing for many more buttons to be able to be mapped to actions.

Also, I am really excited to see that EuCon is still allowing me to create console surface layouts, and then use EuCon to map buttons to recall these layouts!!! This isn't without some rough edges, but is very promising.

I have a question about the VCA Spill function. I can see that I need to edit the .zon file, but am not sure how I trigger a spill on the surface?

Great to hear the S3 and Transport have come to life, will be adding much more as time goes on

As far as spill, just for testing:

First setup a button to Toggle overall VCA mode on and off:

Code:

Zone "Buttons|"
        ...
	someButton		ToggleVCAMode
        ...
ZoneEnd

Then for testing do this:

Code:

Zone "Channel|"
        ...
	Select|		TrackToggleVCASpill
        ...
ZoneEnd

Geoff Waddington · 03-29-2020, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdc

Given that EuCon appears to not have any settings in its config page in Reaper (only in the CSI sub page), and that I can't locate an .mst file, do I assume that this approach for configuration is irrelevant due to all the button to function mapping is happening within EuCon itself?

Partially

There is also an internal .mst/.ost like file that is generated automatically, you will be able to see the results in the left most list on the Edit mode widow -- once it is again working -- soon

tdc · 03-29-2020, 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington

Partially

There is also an internal .mst/.ost like file that is generated automatically, you will be able to see the results in the left most list on the Edit mode widow -- once it is again working -- soon

Ahh I see..:-) I shall put the hairs back I tore out earlier then and start focusing on other aspects of my hopeful migration.

Thanks again Geoff

tdc · 03-29-2020, 04:56 AM

Does the Artist Mix surface show VU Meters using CSI?

Mike@Ossarium · 03-29-2020, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington

Make the changes bolded above and you should be fine

oh - thanks.

I don't fully understand why i need three Zones for that?

Geoff Waddington · 03-29-2020, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdc

Does the Artist Mix surface show VU Meters using CSI?

Not yet, but on the list.

Geoff Waddington · 03-29-2020, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@Ossarium

oh - thanks.

I don't fully understand why i need three Zones for that?

The Zone that ends with "|" is a template Zone that is only instantiated in the Home Zone -- Included Zones section -- since it is Included you can't directly GoZone to get to it, you can GoZone "Home", but that resets everything.

The other 2 Zones are the "real" (instantiated Zones) that you CAN access directly using GoZone.

If that doesn't make sense, ask away, it's a bit subtle...

tdc · 03-29-2020, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington

Not yet, but on the list.

Thanks - got it.

cjewellstudios · 03-29-2020, 07:51 AM

Hey guys,

This thread moves very fast and for whatever reason I am not getting the notifications for days at a time. I gotta figure that out.

Anyways I caught some acceleration stuff a while back. I use the MF Twisters native acceleration and that works like a dream already. So is this something I have to disable or is it in the Encoder widget now by default?

Geoff Waddington · 03-29-2020, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjewellstudios

Hey guys,

This thread moves very fast and for whatever reason I am not getting the notifications for days at a time. I gotta figure that out.

Anyways I caught some acceleration stuff a while back. I use the MF Twisters native acceleration and that works like a dream already. So is this something I have to disable or is it in the Encoder widget now by default?

Try it.

If it doesn't feel right, try EncoderPlain or EncoderPlainReverse.

Geoff Waddington · 03-29-2020, 08:08 AM

New build is up.

Widget List is back in Edit Mode window.

Just turn/press a control that is mapped in the .mst/.ost files.

You can also select a Surface in the dropdown to see the list for that Surface.

You can also generate a Widget list -- be aware that this can take some time -- the EuCon one takes forever

WaveTrans · 03-29-2020, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington

New build is up.

Widget List is back in Edit Mode window.

Just turn/press a control that is mapped in the .mst/.ost files.

You can also select a Surface in the dropdown to see the list for that Surface.

You can also generate a Widget list -- be aware that this can take some time -- the EuCon one takes forever

Thanks, Geoff!

I just uploaded new files for the Icon Nano which may replace the old ones in the beta version.
https://stash.reaper.fm/v/38686/CSI_IconNano_2_0.zip

I also put my FX.zones in the stash
https://stash.reaper.fm/v/38685/CSI_FX_zones.zip

mostly the Reaper Cockos plugs but single- and multi-channel (8 channel) versions.

CSI is great!
Thanks!

Mike@Ossarium · 03-29-2020, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington

The Zone that ends with "|" is a template Zone that is only instantiated in the Home Zone -- Included Zones section -- since it is Included you can't directly GoZone to get to it, you can GoZone "Home", but that resets everything.

The other 2 Zones are the "real" (instantiated Zones) that you CAN access directly using GoZone.

If that doesn't make sense, ask away, it's a bit subtle...

Thanks for the explanation. Fully understand!

WaveTrans · 03-29-2020, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timothys_monster

This sounds amazing!!! Well, I hope the extender will help your workflow now

You were actually right being suspicious about icon products,
the X+ stopped working two days after I got it.
I`m afraid I have to send it back.

However, it revealed valuable insights into the world of controlling surfaces as long as it worked.

Quote:

Originally Posted by timothys_monster

Thanks in advance for sharing and I will be so happy to try the send pots (maybe even with the newly supported encoder acceleration).

I put the Icon Nano files in the stash (links below).

I faintly remember that you wanted to control send volume with rotaries 1-8, so I attach a version of the IconNano 2.0 zon where this is implemented.

No Fader, send volume = rotaries 1-8, Shift+Rotary1-8 = SendPan

Funkybot · 03-29-2020, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington

OK, good progress.

Seems like Alt is not engaging, try changing this:

Believe it or not, the issue just magically resolved itself. I turned on my PC today, installed the new build, and everything works now. I suspect maybe at some point the surface crashed or became stuck and needed the PC to restart. In fact, I just noticed that the lights on the surface remained on after Reaper closed, which tells me the surface just crashed yesterday. Normally they turn off on exit.

VCA Spill is indeed working now. It's very nice.

EDIT:
Also, I noticed the Eucon not initializing with faders at unity thing has been resolved recently. Didn't catch any posts where you pointed that out as fixed, but somewhere in the last few builds that's been resolved.

Funkybot · 03-29-2020, 09:36 AM

A few people have recently asked for my X-Touch One files, and I posted them in another thread but will repost here just so people can find them.

There are two X-Touch One .zon folders there, one for a "SelectedTrack" workflow, which I prefer. Another for a "Bank of 8" type workflow (I think I called it Standard). I may still make updates, and a few things may have custom scripts assigned to them (like TrackBank in Selected Track Workflow is just a script that selects the next track up or down 8 times in quick succession).

Feel free to download using this link (Behringer X-Touch One Files Here):
https://forum.cockos.com/attachment....5&d=1584462637

There's also an image file showing how each button is mapped. The .zon files have instructions at the top about how to set the unit up.

Cragster · 03-29-2020, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gass n Klang

hey guys,
does anybody have the necessary files for the Icon QCon Pro G2 and EX G2? That would be quite awesome.

Here Are my files in text file for the Qcon Prox .I use 2 "pages" as of now so theres a Home zone file and an Edit zone file and my MST.Hope this helps with your Pro G2 or anyone else who wants to take a look. i have lots of fx plugin file as well if you need let me know
edit: i dont have an extender but i will soon so maybe you can share your extender zone when you get up and running

Gass n Klang · 03-29-2020, 01:46 PM

CSI is not in the controller list after installing it.

I put the CSI folder in the Reaper directory and the 64bit dll (64bit reaper and 64bit windows) in the user plugin folder.

Any hints?

Geoff Waddington · 03-29-2020, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funkybot

Believe it or not, the issue just magically resolved itself. I turned on my PC today, installed the new build, and everything works now. I suspect maybe at some point the surface crashed or became stuck and needed the PC to restart. In fact, I just noticed that the lights on the surface remained on after Reaper closed, which tells me the surface just crashed yesterday. Normally they turn off on exit.

VCA Spill is indeed working now. It's very nice.

EDIT:
Also, I noticed the Eucon not initializing with faders at unity thing has been resolved recently. Didn't catch any posts where you pointed that out as fixed, but somewhere in the last few builds that's been resolved.

I was waiting for someone to notice that

Glad VCA Spill is now working

Geoff Waddington · 03-29-2020, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gass n Klang

CSI is not in the controller list after installing it.

I put the CSI folder in the Reaper directory and the 64bit dll (64bit reaper and 64bit windows) in the user plugin folder.

Any hints?

Have a look at the wiki Installation instructions, you may need the VC++ runtime.

The link to the wiki is in my sig below.

Gass n Klang · 03-29-2020, 02:17 PM

thx! worked

Funkybot · 03-29-2020, 03:47 PM

Wiki updated with a page on VCA Spill:

https://github.com/malcolmgroves/rea...-and-VCA-Spill

Geoff Waddington · 03-29-2020, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funkybot

Wiki updated with a page on VCA Spill:

https://github.com/malcolmgroves/rea...-and-VCA-Spill

Thanks, looks great, as usual !!

MixMonkey · 03-29-2020, 04:28 PM

Geoff, could the new acceleration also apply to the rate of 'stepping' through stepped parameters?

airon · 03-29-2020, 04:55 PM

Sidenote. Here's a full 360 degree clockwise turn on a Midi Fighter Twister as a 3f/41 encoder. This is from the console output. 110 lines.

Code:

IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625
IN <- MFT_C RotaryA6 0.015625

airon · 03-29-2020, 04:56 PM

Data from MidiOX on the same action. This is of course not 100% precise. I might turn the knob a little further or not quite as far the second time. It's 106 lines in this case.

It's nice to see a constant value though

. The left turn is -0.015625 (console output) and 3F(MidiOX).

Code:

 TIMESTAMP IN PORT STATUS DATA1 DATA2 CHAN NOTE EVENT               
 00004E1A   1  --     B1    00    41    2  ---  CC: Bank MSB          
 00004E56   1  --     B1    00    41    2  ---  CC: Bank MSB          
 00004E91   1  --     B1    00    41    2  ---  CC: Bank MSB          
 00004EAC   1  --     B1    00    41    2  ---  CC: Bank MSB          
 00004EF3   1  --     B1    00    41    2  ---  CC: Bank MSB          
 00004F23   1  --     B1    00    41    2  ---  CC: Bank MSB          
 00004F60   1  --     B1    00    41    2  ---  CC: Bank MSB          
 00004F71   1  --     B1    00    41    2  ---  CC: Bank MSB          
 00004FBC   1  --     B1    00    41    2  ---  CC: Bank MSB          
 00004FF8   1  --     B1    00    41    2  ---  CC: Bank MSB          
 00005037   1  --     B1    00    41    2  ---  CC: Bank MSB          
 00005049   1  --     B1    00    41    2  ---  CC: Bank MSB          
 00005073   1  --     B1    00    41    2  ---  CC: Bank MSB          
 00005094   1  --     B1    00    41    2  ---  CC: Bank MSB          
 000050BF   1  --     B1    00    41    2  ---  CC: Bank MSB          
 000050D2   1  --     B1    00    41    2  ---  CC: Bank MSB          
 000050F5   1  --     B1    00    41    2  ---  CC: Bank MSB          
 0000510D   1  --     B1    00    41    2  ---  CC: Bank MSB          
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Geoff Waddington · 03-29-2020, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MixMonkey

Geoff, could the new acceleration also apply to the rate of 'stepping' through stepped parameters?

Great idea !

Will have to ponder a bit...

MixMonkey · 03-29-2020, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington

Great idea !

Will have to ponder a bit...

I ask because I've been wrestling with some particularly poorly scaled plugin parameters and I've been using the stepped parameter construct to 'correct' the rubbish scaling.

This has been reasonably successful. I've been able to introduce more steps at the end of the scale that was too 'coarse' and now I'm trying to taper off the 'fine' steps back into something that means I don't have to turn the rotary dozens of times to get to the other end

It struck me that if the acceleration could be applied to the rate of 'stepping', it might make the tapering process a bit easier. I guess it means that when turned faster, the acceleration would cause steps to be 'jumped', so the control gets coarser.

I also wondered whether it might be possible to introduce the concept of step lookup tables and reference these with a link in the fx.zon. It would save repeating the same, long step set over and over.

Funkybot · 03-29-2020, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington

I was waiting for someone to notice that

Just an FYI - EuControl will still crash over here when switching projects in Reaper. But if I open a new project and create tracks everything is good, and same if I open a project from Explorer. Just can't change from one project to another without crashing and having to restart EuControl.

tdc · 03-29-2020, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funkybot

Just an FYI - EuControl will still crash over here when switching projects in Reaper. But if I open a new project and create tracks everything is good, and same if I open a project from Explorer. Just can't change from one project to another without crashing and having to restart EuControl.

Came here to post this exact observation. Confirmed with EuCon 19.12.1.23 and S3 + Transport.

PS: As this thread grows towards 10,000 posts, isn't it worth considering splitting up discussions into sub-threads so as to allow for a more focused discussion? Maybe is my limited brain capacity, but I get lost very quickly when its all in the one linear stream.