Old 07-31-2021, 11:20 AM   #1
ajawamnet
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 172
Default Reaper won't close - no plugins in use

I have a project where version _26 will close just fine, and version _27 will not. both had the same amount and instance of plugins. Even if I remove all plugins using Fx Bay, _27 will not close. And what's real interesting is that after I removed all the plugins from _27, Reaper now fails to show up in Task Manager Processes or Details tab. And this is even stranger, even tho Reaper is greyed out with the black Initializing splash thing, I can still scroll through the Track panel in the greyed out project, but can't close Reaper. Had to reboot to get Reaper to go away. I really hope Reaper doesn't get like Altium... that'd suck.

See vid.

ajawamnet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2021, 11:39 AM   #2
ajawamnet
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 172
Default

So the only way I was able to fix this was to take _27 (actually a further rev of it), copy all the tracks into a new project, import an FXChain of the master bus from the screwed up project and save it to a new directory copying all the media over to is. It now works as it should... Some squirrely in the project. Not sure what cause it. It's a bit scary fer sure.
ajawamnet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2021, 11:45 AM   #3
ajawamnet
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 172
Default

Here's the project RPP's : _26 will close and 27 will not. I did a diff in Notepad++ and see some changes between them - maybe Justin will see something that looks funky

http://www.ajawamnet.com/oneisnotliketheother.zip
ajawamnet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2021, 11:50 AM   #4
ajawamnet
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 172
Default

Yea - even if I open the files in the zip I posted - http://www.ajawamnet.com/oneisnotliketheother.zip - without any audio or plugins available it seems to do the same thing - _26 will close _27 will not.
ajawamnet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2021, 01:04 PM   #5
xpander
Human being with feelings
 
xpander's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Terra incognita
Posts: 7,670
Default

Missing all the media files and almost all of the fx here, but no problems closing both of the projects. Differences I see in rpp are few item positions/selections, zoom level and FX settings for the KICK & BASS (x86) (TWest Productions) and MDynamicsMB (MeldaProduction).

What Reaper version are you using? Have you tried opening the problem project with FX offline; Open project, tick the box Open with FX offline (recovery mode)?

Last edited by xpander; 07-31-2021 at 01:05 PM. Reason: typos
xpander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2021, 10:56 AM   #6
ajawamnet
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 172
Default

Tried Open with no FX - still hung.

So here's two files - two different versions of the same file. All FX deleted. Both are otherwise the same. One closes and one does not.

Last edited by ajawamnet; 08-14-2021 at 05:56 PM.
ajawamnet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2021, 11:38 AM   #7
ajawamnet
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 172
Default

Here's the diff's between the two files.
ajawamnet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2021, 12:05 PM   #8
xpander
Human being with feelings
 
xpander's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Terra incognita
Posts: 7,670
Default

Yep, zoom and several of the track heights. The one which won't close on your end is zoomed way closer and has some of the tracks much taller. The one which closes has all the tracks small and the whole project length visible in Arrange.

However, on my end those don't matter. Both projects open and close normally here.

Would it make any difference if you zoom out on the not closing project and set tracks small, similar to what they are in the closing one...then trying to close it?
xpander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2021, 11:13 AM   #9
ajawamnet
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 172
Default

I NEED TO BE CLEAR - both files will close if I just exit reaper. It's when I use File > Close Project or right click on a tab and use Close Project

This is really strange.

So I took your advice and collapsed all the tracks in wontclose_nofx.rpp. Now it closes.

Also noticed something weird. When I open wontclose_nofx.rpp I get about double the CPU Power Usage in Task Mangers idiot screen - like 16% then drops to 14%.
I can hear the system fan/CPU fan increase in speed.

When I open willclose_nofx.rpp it hangs at around 7%...

Now if I open wontclose_nofx.rpp and collapse all the tracks (using CNTL Mousewheel) it drops to 7% and NOW WILL CLOSE.


In the real Task Mangler:

For wontclose_nofx.rpp I get:
reaper.exe -
CPU = 13
Memory (active...) = 456,404K
User objects = 303
GDI = 262


reaper_host32.exe
CPU = 00
Memory (active...) = 25,192
User objects = 7
GDI = 28


For willclose_nofx.rpp I get:
reaper.exe -
CPU = 3
Memory (active...) = 453,280
User objects = 300
GDI = 254

reaper_host32.exe -
CPU = 0
Memory (active...) = 25,204
User objects = 7
GDI = 28


So now - - if I open wontclose_nofx.rpp and after using CNTL Mousewheel to collapse all the tracks, after the collapse I get:

reaper.exe -
CPU = 3
Memory (active...) = 458,232
User objects = 300
GDI = 254

reaper_host32.exe -
CPU = 0
Memory (active...) = 25,432
User objects = 7
GDI = 28

.. and then it will close.

At different zoom levels I get different CPU utilization.



What the hell is going on here? That's really weird... Justin - any ideas?

Last edited by ajawamnet; 08-06-2021 at 11:18 AM.
ajawamnet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2021, 11:34 AM   #10
ajawamnet
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 172
Default

So if I open wontclose_nofx and collapse it And scroll to the top of the TCP it goes back up to 9-12% and will not close.

Now if I scroll to the bottom of the TCP to the last track, the CPU drops to 3 and I can now use Close Project.


I'm using an OpenGL Quadro card with three monitors running...
ajawamnet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2021, 11:54 AM   #11
ajawamnet
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 172
Default

Here's a link to a video of what I'm talking about. Note the Task Mangler values for reaper.exe CPU as I go through various scenarios.

http://www.ajawamnet.com/thisisreallyweird.mp4

Might have to use Chrome and stretch it across two monitors to read Task Crap.
ajawamnet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2021, 12:06 PM   #12
ajawamnet
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 172
Default

It's also affected by the horizontal zooming. If I take wontclose_nofx.RPP with Task thing showing 13% CPU, and I then Zoom the TCP horizontal out to the show the whole project, the CPU drops to 3% and I can close even without changing the TCP vertical zoom. See vid -
http://www.ajawamnet.com/getsevenweirder.mp4
ajawamnet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2021, 05:03 PM   #13
ajawamnet
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 172
Default

Reaper 6.23 does NOT have this problem. I tried every version back to then and used the examples I posted. All using the same theme and config, for some reason reaper 6.23 works as expected. 6.30 - 6.33 fails to close I was intrepid updating - now I know why.
ajawamnet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2021, 10:49 AM   #14
ivansc
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Near Cambridge UK and Near Questembert, France
Posts: 22,754
Default

Have you tried 6.33 yet?
__________________
Ici on parles Franglais
ivansc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2021, 11:45 AM   #15
ajawamnet
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 172
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ivansc View Post
Have you tried 6.33 yet?
Yes - does the same thing as 6.34 . In fact, I first noticed the problem in 6.33 . Another user on the Bug Report forum has confirmed this with the example I've posted.

https://forums.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=256285
ajawamnet is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:58 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.