Multi Tool script for MIDI and automation editing

[juliansader]

Originally Posted by _Stevie_

There's one method I could think of how this could work:

monitoring the undo history for the term "selected" and then automatically trigger the multi tool.

Checking the "selected" part is doable -- the MIDI Inspector does that already -- but checking changes in CC lane layout/visibility and zoom/scroll is slow.

[_Stevie_]

Yeah true, due to the MIDI chunk.

[juliansader]

Hmmm... I've just managed to write a function that determines the CC lane layout by
1) checking the position of each lane's CC name child window to find the bottom of each lane;
2) to find the top lane divider, reading pixel colors upwards from the topmost CC name till it finds the piano keyboard.

Quite an ugly hack, but it works in less than a 1/1000 of a second, so promises to be usable.

That still leaves scroll and zoom, unfortunately. EDIT: And timebase.

EDIT 2: And scripts can check very fast if the mouse cursor is over a lane divider by checking whether the cursor is an "I-beam".

[_Stevie_]

Wow that sounds promissing and was very unexpected. Keep us posted!

[reapero]

Just came here to say having the multitool enabled by default when selecting stuff would be awesome! I am worried though..would we miss any of the existing options when selecting data without multitool? Like simple drag up/down (also available with shift control + mousewheel) for example.

Another dream feature ( its really hard to think on how to improve this!) would be to have the handles colors picked up from the available colors Reaper is using on the current theme. Thinking about cubase, I think the visual integration is a bit more tidy there (although you can do half of the stuff than with the .multitool).

Keeping an eye on the auto enable progress Julian! I voted on the FR already

[mozart999uk]

I have to say, that this side of the reaper community really impresses me. The speed that people reply and the willingness to find solutions.

[juliansader]

Originally Posted by reapero

Just came here to say having the multitool enabled by default when selecting stuff would be awesome! I am worried though..would we miss any of the existing options when selecting data without multitool? Like simple drag up/down (also available with shift control + mousewheel) for example.

If it is enabled by default, the zone interface will need to be different, so that REAPER's native editing functions are still available. For example, handles will only appear on the lane divider, and only when the mouse crosses the divider.

Originally Posted by reapero

Another dream feature ( its really hard to think on how to improve this!) would be to have the handles colors picked up from the available colors Reaper is using on the current theme. Thinking about cubase, I think the visual integration is a bit more tidy there (although you can do half of the stuff than with the .multitool).

It would be difficult for a script to decide by itself what the most appropriate color scheme would be for every theme, so instead, it allows the user to customize the colors: If you right-click on a zone, you get an option to customize the zone color and zone size.

[reapero]

Understood! Thanks for your time Julian

[_Stevie_]

@Julian, are there plans to adopt the arrange mode for the Multi-Tool?

[juliansader]

There are indeed -- please check out the new v6.00 of the Multi Tool.

EDIT: v6.02 has some bug fixes.

[Vagelis]

Originally Posted by juliansader

There are indeed -- please check out the new v6.00 of the Multi Tool.

You are the best! Finally we have multi tool for arrange!

[_Stevie_]

Originally Posted by juliansader

There are indeed -- please check out the new v6.00 of the Multi Tool.

EDIT: v6.02 has some bug fixes.

DUDE, THIS IS INANE. I wouldn't have expected that in such a short time.
Donation incoming...

[reapero]

Juliansander, making Reaper great again.

Works on take envelopes as well...wicked! i hope this is not a dream and it will be there tomorrow morning when i turn on the computer.

[daniellumertz]

wooooow juliansanders this is greatttt thank you so much for that

[Vagelis]

Originally Posted by reapero

Works on take envelopes as well...wicked!

And with AIs, wicked x2!

[AJYoung]

OH MY GOD. This is it. This is exactly what I've wanted for an automation tool. You're insane.

Thank you

[todd_r]

How do you use it on automation?

[daniellumertz]

Originally Posted by todd_r

How do you use it on automation?

I put an shortcut to this script
Script: js_Mouse editing - Multi tool.lua

1.Select Points
2.With mouse over envelope hit the shortcut

[todd_r]

Ah, I was still trying to use the midi version. Brilliant, thanks.

This is amazing!!

[samjg60]

Amazing having this for automation as well!!! Thanks so much.

[daniellumertz]

Originally Posted by daniellumertz

EDIT: Today using multi tool found this bug (?)

( The notes was not playing after that )



But it is easy to resolve ( just another click in the midi editor )



Dont know if it is already a common issue...

Sooo, this bug still around here, latest version, dont know if there were some update to try to fix it, maybe with it is happening with a combination of preferences?....

[daniellumertz]

a strange bug with reaper and the script
using the right click option



( pan at -2147483648%L ), wtf heausheuasehas

[juliansader]

Originally Posted by daniellumertz

Sooo, this bug still around here, latest version, dont know if there were some update to try to fix it, maybe with it is happening with a combination of preferences?....

Originally Posted by daniellumertz

a strange bug with reaper and the script
using the right click option

Thanks for the bug reports! Please check if both of these bugs are fixed in v6.05.

[daniellumertz]

Originally Posted by juliansader

Thanks for the bug reports! Please check if both of these bugs are fixed in v6.05.

Thxxxx Julian It fixed!

The notes have the same problem editing editing velocity using yellow pink and orange area.



It needs some kind of UpdateArrange??

[juliansader]

Originally Posted by daniellumertz

The notes have the same problem editing editing velocity using yellow pink and orange area.

It needs some kind of UpdateArrange??

Do you mean that the notes aren't playing back properly after editing using pink and orange areas?

[daniellumertz]

Originally Posted by juliansader

Do you mean that the notes aren't playing back properly after editing using pink and orange areas?

yes, you can see on the top of the gifa part of my arrange view. when I "release" the same behavior happen of the warp in the older version.

[juliansader]

Originally Posted by daniellumertz

yes, you can see on the top of the gifa part of my arrange view. when I "release" the same behavior happen of the warp in the older version.

Please try again with today's version 6.07.

[daniellumertz]

Originally Posted by juliansader

Please try again with today's version 6.07.

thx Julian!! It is very nicely ! 0 of these bugs found!!!
awesome update !

thxxx !!

[nolderd]

I am a newbie, so sorry for the ignorant question.

I loaded ReaPack and have Multi Tool in my piano roll toolbar. It either toggles on or off, but I cannot figure out how the script activates giving me what everyone else sees in the previous posts.

Do I have an old script, or am I just messing up?

[juliansader]

Originally Posted by nolderd

I am a newbie, so sorry for the ignorant question.

I loaded ReaPack and have Multi Tool in my piano roll toolbar. It either toggles on or off, but I cannot figure out how the script activates giving me what everyone else sees in the previous posts.

Do I have an old script, or am I just messing up?

The most common reason why nothing seems to happen, is if the mouse is not over any CC lane when the script starts, so the script doesn't know which CCs you intend to edit.

If you assign the script to a toolbar button, clicking that button will only *arm* the script for later execution.

(Personally, I wouldn't advise you to use a toolbar button. Rather just link the script to a keyboard shortcut.)

Please check out the script's extensive help documentation, which can be read in REAPER's built-in script editor (by clicking the "Edit" button in the Actions list), or in ReaPack's "About" window. Or check out the first posts in this thread.

[AJYoung]

Originally Posted by nolderd

I loaded ReaPack and have Multi Tool in my piano roll toolbar. It either toggles on or off, but I cannot figure out how the script activates giving me what everyone else sees in the previous posts.

Originally Posted by juliansader

If you assign the script to a toolbar button, clicking that button will only *arm* the script for later execution.

Specifically, right-click the toolbar button to arm it.

I use it in a toolbar and I like that workflow better than using a keyboard shortcut. Can't really say why.

Select the CC you want to edit, right-click the toolbar button, and then click in the lane to start the script. Then left-click the armed toolbar button to deactivate the script.

[juliansader]

The Multi Tool has been updated to work across multiple track automation lanes.

To edit multiple lanes, either make razor selections across the lanes, or select AIs in each of the lanes.

The guide zones are only displayed in the lane under the mouse, but edits affect all lanes.

[reapero]

Killer! Thanks again Julian!

[Joe90]

Originally Posted by juliansader

The Multi Tool has been updated to work across multiple track automation lanes.

To edit multiple lanes, either make razor selections across the lanes, or select AIs in each of the lanes.

The guide zones are only displayed in the lane under the mouse, but edits affect all lanes.

Just synchronized my packages and saw this update.

WOW!

Razer edit + Multi tool puts Reaper at the top of the list for the most advanced envelope editing functionality of ANY DAW I believe.

Kudos!

I'd still love to see standard ctrl-z/ctrl-shift-z for undo/redo working inside of the multitool interface without causing the gui to close. The little side button is perfectly elegant but muscle memory is too strong, I will ALWAYS hit ctrl-z to undo before I remember I shouldn't.

I understand if that's not possible, or just too complicated to implement, I just thought it was worth mentioning as you have already taken this tool above and beyond what I initially thought was possible.

Thanks again for the awesome work Julian.

[mozart999uk]

Originally Posted by juliansader

The Multi Tool has been updated to work across multiple track automation lanes.

To edit multiple lanes, either make razor selections across the lanes, or select AIs in each of the lanes.

The guide zones are only displayed in the lane under the mouse, but edits affect all lanes.

Amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GonZ]

Hi, I'm trying to use Multi Tool, I'm likely doing something wrong since I cannot run it. How can I do to begin to use it? Thank you.

[juliansader]

Please check out the first post of this thread, or the help documentation inside the script file, which can be read in any text editor, or REAPER's own script editor (the "Edit action..." button in the Actions list). If anything is unclear, please let me know!

[daniellumertz]

julian sanders is there a way to apply the multitool also to the tempo map? so I can warp it ?
I mean I know it can be applies to the points
like so


but I dont think this would be the desired effect as the grid gets all messed up hhehehe.

exist a way to already make some stretch changes?

Thxxxx

[juliansader]

Unfortunately, no, the script cannot yet be used on the tempo map.

[daniellumertz]

When using the multitool and MIDI item with Ignore Tempo etc... it can bug