Where did my guitar tracks go?

Funkifized · 06-01-2020, 10:37 PM

Okay, so I spent some time putting together my maiden voyage recording project. I've spent some time putting together a good backing track in BIAB. I started by recording my guitar into BIAB, but thought better of it, in that I could do multiple takes and comp my guitar part together in mixdown. So, I import BIAB into Reaper, I spend some time recording my guitar like this, got three takes, and then started doing vocals. Three different parts, trying to run video separately, two or three takes each.

Well, the vocal tracks were okay, need to add some effect and play with them a bit. However, guitar tracks are all empty. Now if I try to run the project in Reaper, it won't play. Hit the green play button at the bottom of the window, nothing. I try dragging the cursor further in on the track, still no play.

None of the tracks that I recorded on show anything in the display. When I was recording the vocals, I noticed that I wasn't getting any of the recorded guitar.

Looking in the folder where the tracks are saved, I see the .wav files created for the recordings, along with a duplicate for each, which is a wav.repeaks file for each .wav file. The guitar .wav fils are all there, but if I play them outside of Reaper, they're empty.

I have 7 vocal tracks, some of which are additional takes waiting to be edited down. Each track has a duplicate .wave.repeaks file(I don't know what this is). I have the .rpp file, which I understand is the reaper file for the project, but there is also a .rpp-bak and a .rpp-UNDO.

I'm still trying to get my feet wet, but I'd like to end up with a multi-track vid of me playing and singing a trio thing by myself, with all of this extra time at home. What have I done wrong? I'm guessing I didn't get a line check to make sure the guitar was making it into Reaper, but I can't figure out why it's now frozen, and whether or not I can get any of the guitar tracks back.

I'm using Windows 10, going through a Behringer UM2 with my guitar and then with teh SM58. Monitoring the sound with earbuds from the Behringer. The Line 6 Variax through the XTLive pedal into the Behringer has an amazing acoustic guitar sound, but I digress. I know this isn't much information, but what am I doing wrong? Maybe I need a better workflow?

toleolu · 06-02-2020, 12:51 PM

When you record the guitar parts, are you recording them as videos?

Funkifized · 06-02-2020, 05:21 PM

I recorded vid on an iPad, not connected. Was hoping to import sync that up later.

valy · 06-02-2020, 05:25 PM

Can you explain what you mean when you say you "imported BIAB" into Reaper? It's a plugin? How did you record your guitar tracks exactly?

Funkifized · 06-02-2020, 11:27 PM

I use the DAW plugin from BIAB to get the tracks into Reaper. I then double-click to Insert a new track, click the red button to arm the track, and then click the larger red button to Record.

valy · 06-02-2020, 11:47 PM

If I had to guess, I would say that something went wrong with the transfer process from BIAB. Although having never used it, I'm not sure where exactly to look.

valy · 06-02-2020, 11:48 PM

What if you export the files as .wav from BIAB then drag them into Reaper?

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Funkifized · 06-03-2020, 07:30 AM

I imported into the DAW because I can record multiple takes and comp the part much easier, in theory. The BIAB file didn't seem to be the problem, as it was playing fine when was doing vocal overdubs. My recording of the guitar part seems to be gone, and the whole project won't play now.

toleolu · 06-03-2020, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funkifized

I recorded vid on an iPad, not connected. Was hoping to import sync that up later.

When you record the video on the iPad, are you also recording the guitar part in Reaper?

I only ask because that's how I sync my Reaper audio with video. I don't use Reaper for video, but when I import the iPad video, I put the video on one track of my video editing software, place the rendered audio track from Reaper on another track, the software syncs the Reaper audio with audio from the iPad video, and then I delete the iPad audio and produce the video with the iPad video and the Reaper audio.

serr · 06-03-2020, 08:53 AM

If you made a mistake like not assigning the correct channel to a track in Reaper and ended up recording silence (eg. mic in interface ch.1 - accidentally select interface ch. 2 and record silence). And then never went back and listened to them after recording. (So, just heard the parts as you were playing them and live monitoring them.) And now when you finally go back and listen... Surprise! You screwed up!

That would follow logical steps. (It's a mistake and not OK! But logical.)

But if you are saying that you DID in fact listen to those parts afterwards. Still hearing your last overdub while recording the next one and so forth. Audio is there. Waveforms are there. But then the next time you opened the project the audio is now corrupt and those wav files no longer play audio.

That's a "something actually corrupted the audio files" mystery!

The former would be shitty but at least not crazy and you can move forward.
The latter would be something I haven't seen since Protools HD days and the sd2 audio file format. (PT HD could crash in a way that would corrupt source audio files. FYI)

Funkifized · 06-03-2020, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toleolu

When you record the video on the iPad, are you also recording the guitar part in Reaper?

I only ask because that's how I sync my Reaper audio with video. I don't use Reaper for video, but when I import the iPad video, I put the video on one track of my video editing software, place the rendered audio track from Reaper on another track, the software syncs the Reaper audio with audio from the iPad video, and then I delete the iPad audio and produce the video with the iPad video and the Reaper audio.

I recorded the audio in Reaper, while video recording on iPad. The idea was to import the vid to sync up to the audio in Reaper. Haven't gotten that far yet, as I lost my guitar audio. Or never had it. Whatever the case.

Funkifized · 06-03-2020, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by serr

If you made a mistake like not assigning the correct channel to a track in Reaper and ended up recording silence (eg. mic in interface ch.1 - accidentally select interface ch. 2 and record silence). And then never went back and listened to them after recording. (So, just heard the parts as you were playing them and live monitoring them.) And now when you finally go back and listen... Surprise! You screwed up!

That would follow logical steps. (It's a mistake and not OK! But logical.)

But if you are saying that you DID in fact listen to those parts afterwards. Still hearing your last overdub while recording the next one and so forth. Audio is there. Waveforms are there. But then the next time you opened the project the audio is now corrupt and those wav files no longer play audio.

That's a "something actually corrupted the audio files" mystery!

The former would be shitty but at least not crazy and you can move forward.
The latter would be something I haven't seen since Protools HD days and the sd2 audio file format. (PT HD could crash in a way that would corrupt source audio files. FYI)

I suspect that you've got it right; probably the former. How do I assign channel 2 instead of channel 1? The microphone into channel 1 worked fine. I could plug the guitar into that channel, but obviously it with be best to lean how to assign the correct channel.

serr · 06-03-2020, 10:10 AM

Right-click (control-click) on the red record arm button. Follow the arrows and chose the input you wish. Reaper defaults to a new track assigned to input #1 if you do nothing.