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11-24-2016, 12:04 AM
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#81
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2013
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+1 to ara ! Cmon guys !
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11-25-2016, 03:38 AM
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#82
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2013
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+1 for ARA
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11-28-2016, 01:29 PM
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#83
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Sep 2016
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+1 for ARA
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11-28-2016, 02:39 PM
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#84
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 479
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+1 - this one feature would make Reaper basically unbeatable on features IMO
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11-28-2016, 08:14 PM
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#85
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Location: Caracas, Venezuela
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Yes +1
It would be great indeed.
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11-28-2016, 08:16 PM
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#86
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2006
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and the latest update just made it cooler!
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11-30-2016, 12:08 PM
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#87
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Oct 2016
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+1 to ARA.
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11-30-2016, 01:38 PM
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#88
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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This would legitimately be the killer... I think I'd take ARA over anything.
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11-30-2016, 04:59 PM
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#89
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 21,551
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It's especially nice now that you can edit multiple different tracks at the same time like with a midi editor.
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12-01-2016, 04:04 AM
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#90
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Norway
Posts: 7,318
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.. only problem I have with this FR is that I might have to shell out the $$ for Melodyne editor
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12-02-2016, 04:49 AM
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#91
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2015
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+100!
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01-03-2017, 07:03 AM
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#92
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Holly Springs, NC
Posts: 117
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I seriously won't up my license for v6 if ARA isn't implemented.
I have too many other DAWs that work right (Pro Tools, Logic Pro X, Studio One 3) and Pitch Correction is a necessary part of my work.
How Music Notation made the jump in line on ARA is beyond me..
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01-03-2017, 08:26 AM
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#93
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2006
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I think it makes perfect sense why notation superseded ARA...
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01-03-2017, 09:07 AM
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#94
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Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: UK, near Europe
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Never used Melodyne, never will. Never even heard of ARA until this thread. Just for interest is ARA purely a Melodyne thing or are there any other plugins that need/use it ?
By contrast, notation is exactly why I moved over completely to Reaper. There are a lot of very different users of Reaper. You can't please all of them all the time.
Steve
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01-03-2017, 09:13 AM
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#95
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2006
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exactly.
I dont use notation much.
I would MUCH rather have ARA.
However, it's clearly a more niche feature.
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01-03-2017, 10:17 AM
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#96
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Krefeld, Germany
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I, too, have no need for perfect Melodyne support, but on the long run, I see that Reaper will not be in good usage state without it.
-Michael
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01-03-2017, 10:41 AM
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#97
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I think notation took precedent over ARA because there is more and more music/film composers who're discovering Reaper, and this is a must feature for this type of work . Saying that, I believe that implementation of ARA will happen, or maybe something that is even more interesting.
There is also in-built DAW console emulation that is creating a lot of demand
and I think, Reaper's team might be well positioned to capitalize on it better than others. Reaper is the fastest evolving DAW in existence. Everything will come :-)
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01-03-2017, 01:54 PM
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#98
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Join Date: Feb 2015
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Also, you can always use melodyne as an external editor.
That's what I do for pitch detection and correction.
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02-04-2017, 07:34 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Oct 2016
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I too would like to see Melodyne ARA intergration. It is so much more than just pitch correction especailly when you can edit things in the track. I've used this feature in Studio One to change the chords and voicings that an old guitar loop was playing to fit the song and it works great! You can also change timing, note length, formants, harmonic content in musical and intuitive ways.
With addition of ARA Reaper would be the only daw anybody needs!
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02-04-2017, 09:00 AM
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#100
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Norway
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozman
Also, you can always use melodyne as an external editor.
That's what I do for pitch detection and correction.
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What's your workflow when you want to save your file in Melodyne and bring it back into Reaper? That's where using Melodyne as an external editor falls apart for me.
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02-04-2017, 10:05 AM
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#101
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Join Date: Dec 2012
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Yeah, it's not a bad thing, but I would like to see improved ReaTune. 
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02-04-2017, 11:51 AM
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#102
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Human being with feelings
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My personal opinion is that Cockos will / should make their own implementation of "pitch detection & correction". I think it is not a really good idea to have such a major feature and not own the tehnology, at least most of it. Like having notation module from Yamaha/Steinberg, just imagine that :/
Bad stuff happening all the time ... Yamaha removed Line 6 modules from Reason, abandoned QuickTime on Windows left Avid, Steinberg etc. in a big, big trouble.
So, let's do it "Reaper" way 
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02-04-2017, 12:16 PM
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#103
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Oulu, Finland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zabukowski
I think it is not a really good idea to have such a major feature and not own the tehnology
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If Reaper gets ARA support, it does not have to mean Melodyne will also be included. ARA is just a way to use Melodyne in a more convenient way. (It's an extension to the existing plugin formats like VST.)
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02-04-2017, 12:24 PM
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#104
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Krefeld, Germany
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenakios
If Reaper gets ARA support, it does not have to mean Melodyne will also be included. ARA is just a way to use Melodyne in a more convenient way. (It's an extension to the existing plugin formats like VST.)
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If the ARA interface is provided and hence with it also the appropriate interface is included in the JSFX ecosystem, there might be other plugins coming up - VST and JSFX, as well by Cockos as by friendly users - that benefit from direct access to stored media files.
-Michael
Last edited by mschnell; 02-05-2017 at 01:02 AM.
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02-04-2017, 12:32 PM
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#105
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Oulu, Finland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mschnell
If the ARA interface is provided and hence with it also the appropriate interface is included in the JSFX ecosystem, there might be other plugins coming up - VST and JSFX, as well be Cockos as by firendly users - the benefit from direct access to stored media files.
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VST2/3 plugins have been able to do that in Reaper for years already. (Using other mechanisms than ARA, of course.) I think JS plugins don't have support, not sure why. (I think Justin has been a bit reluctant to give JS plugins access into the Reaper API, maybe because much of the Reaper API is not safe to use from multiple threads.)
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02-04-2017, 02:11 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Krefeld, Germany
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenakios
VST2/3 plugins have been able to do that in Reaper for years already.
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That would be plugins using the propriety Reaper API (additionally to the VST API).
Of course using the (also propriety) ARA API is not decently different from this, but those VSTs would not be limited to Reaper, but would work in (some) other DAWs, as well. This might be a bait for VST developers.
JSFX, obviously are Reaper-only anyway (just trying to give those another push here ). I don't think a read-only access to file data - managed by Reaper - would be a problem with multithreading.
-Michael
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02-04-2017, 04:39 PM
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#107
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 21,551
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mschnell
If the ARA interface is provided and hence with it also the appropriate interface is included in the JSFX ecosystem, there might be other plugins coming up - VST and JSFX, as well be Cockos as by firendly users - the benefit from direct access to stored media files.
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There already are. Vocalign is ARA capable now and got a similar nice improvement from it.
On the other point about notation, in direct comparison there's no doubt at all that notation will reach or attract a wider audience in general than something like ARA so it's pretty logical to me that notation would come first if both things were on the dev table. Unless one of them was just really easy to do, could be knocked out rather quickly, I couldn't imagine any other reason to prioritize in the other direction.
Keep in mind that the original use of Melodyne ARA was not a "new feature" in the more conventional sense, it was something to close a major hole for a product that had no really convienient tuning at all. If a daw already has decent tuning facilities ARA is much less important than it was for that first case where it was more about not re-inventing the wheel. If you already have a wheel, like Cubase's variaudio, why bother? (why rush to implement it)
Last edited by Lawrence; 02-04-2017 at 04:52 PM.
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02-08-2017, 01:02 PM
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#108
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2012
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02-08-2017, 01:22 PM
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#109
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2015
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KICKSTARTER ? 
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02-08-2017, 01:25 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 13,333
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie
KICKSTARTER ? |
Ahahaah. Why not.
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02-08-2017, 01:26 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Oulu, Finland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie
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To fund what exactly?
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02-08-2017, 01:31 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 258
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenakios
To fund what exactly?
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as i understend to add ARA and stuff, Reaper should pay to Celemony, so we can help with that as mutch as we can
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02-08-2017, 01:36 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie
as i understend to add ARA and stuff, Reaper should pay to Celemony, so we can help with that as mutch as we can
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ARA does not cost money to license.
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02-08-2017, 01:38 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 258
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenakios
ARA does not cost money to license.
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maybe i'm get it wrong
Quote:
Originally Posted by vitalker
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but anyway i'm ready to pay for it as mutch as i can, so as other bunch of peaople there
like a protest but in a good way
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02-08-2017, 01:39 PM
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#115
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenakios
ARA does not cost money to license.
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A lot of pizzas and coffee for Justin and Schwa? And we can sleep instead of them.
Personally I would like to see an improved ReaTune with formants editing.
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02-08-2017, 01:41 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vitalker
A lot of pizzas and coffee for Justin and Schwa? And we can sleep instead of them.
Personally I would like to see an improved ReaTune with formants editing. |
ye, me 2
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02-08-2017, 01:55 PM
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#117
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Norway
Posts: 7,318
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02-08-2017, 02:00 PM
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#118
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 13,333
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Quote:
Originally Posted by G-Sun
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There is no answer yet.
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02-08-2017, 02:08 PM
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#119
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Human being with feelings
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02-08-2017, 02:12 PM
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#120
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 13,333
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pcartwright
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I saw it. So what? I agree with him. It's too expensive (not in money currency). I would like to see improved ReaTune, because it needs some love to be very powerful tool.
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